Obama Ineligible to Hold Office of President Under Constitution

[torchbearer]

That reasoning is seriously wrong. I entered military service from Texas, which considered me legally to be a Texan no matter where I was stationed, whether it be Ft. Hood, TX, Ft. Knox, KY, or the Federal Republic of Germany. Citizenship follows the parents in every country in the world - the USA additionally confers citizenship based on birth inside the territorial limits of the United States. When Goldwater ran in 1964, he was born in Arizona when it was still a territory and not yet a state. Was he not eligible to be President?

Sorry, you have a personal attachment to the debate.
Argue with the history of the constitution and its original intent.

 

[nickcoons]

the 14th amendment made you a citizen of the federal government. with the same rights as a newly freed slave in the south.
They couldn't run for president. Why?

When the constitution was written, there were no "federal citizens". Everyone was a citizen of its state. And only a citizen of one of these united states... being born in that state, could run for president.

McCain is not a citizen of any of these united states.
He has the same "privileges" as a freeman.

The Constitution does not say that a requirement of a president is to be born in a state, it says that he/she must be a natural-born citizen. It does not define what a "natural-born citizen" is, and it certainly doesn't define it as being born within a state. Unfortunately, that means this is left open to interpretation.

The most logical position is that a "natural-born citizen" is one who is born into citizenship, as opposed to one who becomes a citizen later in life. One can be born into citizenship either by being born in a state, or by being born to parents who are citizens even if the place of birth is not within a state.

 

[Pericles]

The Constitution does not say that a requirement of a president is to be born in a state, it says that he/she must be a natural-born citizen. It does not define what a "natural-born citizen" is, and it certainly doesn't define it as being born within a state. Unfortunately, that means this is left open to interpretation.

The most logical position is that a "natural-born citizen" is one who is born into citizenship, as opposed to one who becomes a citizen later in life. One can be born into citizenship either by being born in a state, or by being born to parents who are citizens even if the place of birth is not within a state.

One slight correction - One can be born into citizenship either by being born in the territorial limits of the United States, or by being born to parents who are citizens even if the place of birth is not within a state. This is the effect of current law.

When did the residents of Alaska and Hawaii become US citizens? When the territory became part of the United States or when the territory became a state?

 

[orafi]

The Constitution does not say that a requirement of a president is to be born in a state, it says that he/she must be a natural-born citizen. It does not define what a "natural-born citizen" is, and it certainly doesn't define it as being born within a state. Unfortunately, that means this is left open to interpretation.

The most logical position is that a "natural-born citizen" is one who is born into citizenship, as opposed to one who becomes a citizen later in life. One can be born into citizenship either by being born in a state, or by being born to parents who are citizens even if the place of birth is not within a state.

everyone knows naturally born is anything but a c section. pfft

 

[Pericles]

Sorry, you have a personal attachment to the debate.
Argue with the history of the constitution and its original intent.

Didn't have any children while on active duty, so does not affect me.

Original intent is that a person who does not have a permanent attachment to the United States by citizenship should not not be its President. Here is my source for original intent - the First Congress, on March 26, 1790, approved an act that declared, "The children of citizens of the United States that may be born beyond sea, or outside the limits of the United States, shall be considered as natural-born citizens of the United States."

What is yours?

Notice you avoided the Goldwater '64 question -

Al Gore was born in Washington, DC - not a state last time I checked....

Need I go on?

 

[Mangonel]

Easy Yahoo search produces -


http://web.israelinsider.com/Articles/Politics/12944.htm

http://www.nowpublic.com/world/barack-obama-birth-certificate-dubbed-fake


MSM....

http://www.newsweek.com/id/154599

 

[p4poetic]

I can't believe people are still questioning this. My question to these people who are still asking; don't you think if he was ineligible, he wouldn't have been able to run in the first place?

Kenya is not a US state.

Nobody said it was. Hawaii however, is. Anyone read his biography? How could it have been possible to have [him] been born in Kenya if they moved to Hawaii, and his father had left when he was very young? Further more, his mother is from Kansas.

lets see here...
both were born in highly questionable places which they dont want to talk about

Obama has talked about his background several times to the point where I've memorized it by default.