Obama grassroots beats ours?

[hopeforamerica]

Kade, I think you need to hop on the Obama forum. It's clear who you are voting for and supporting.

 

[Kade]

Kade, I think you need to hop on the Obama forum. It's clear who you are voting for and supporting.

When the forum name changes to Fascist Forest, consider it done.

 

[torchbearer]

It's not on his office, I've seen the picture. It's in his campaign's office. Obama never set foot in it. And if he did, does he tell them to take it down?

Judging by these statements from above:

Obama bill: $845 billion
more for global poverty

Sen. Barack Obama, perhaps giving America a preview of priorities he would pursue if elected president, is rejoicing over the Senate committee passage of a plan that could end up costing taxpayers billions of dollars in an attempt to reduce poverty in other nations.

The bill, called the Global Poverty Act, is the type of legislation, "We can – and must – make … a priority," said Obama, a co-sponsor.

It would demand that the president develop "and implement" a policy to "cut extreme global poverty in half by 2015 through aid, trade, debt relief" and other programs.

I'd say he's all for global COMMUNISM. So no, he wouldn't ask them to take it down.
Look at his preacher, look at all his closest peeps. What do they have in common?
Now look at the houston office again....
Is that some lone supporter who is tarnishing his honor? Or someone who gets His programs and supports them the same way they support collectivism in south america?
The presidency is not something to play around with... and he has enough ties to our enemies to be a concern.
His policies like the one he supports above, reeks of internation collectivism.
If you want to save the world, USE YOUR OWN DAMN MONEY.

How much of Obama's own wealth has he sent personally to starving third world countries? He is more than willing to send yours.

 

[Kade]

Judging by these statements from above:


I'd say he's all for global COMMUNISM. So no, he wouldn't ask them to take it down.
Look at his preacher, look at all his closest peeps. What do they have in common?
Now look at the houston office again....
Is that some lone supporter who is tarnishing his honor? Or someone who gets His programs and supports them the same way they support collectivism in south america?
The presidency is not something to play around with... and he has enough ties to our enemies to be a concern.
His policies like the one he supports above, reeks of internation collectivism.
If you want to save the world, USE YOUR OWN DAMN MONEY.

How much of Obama's own wealth has he sent personally to starving third world countries? He is more than willing to send yours.

So Obama stands for a Global Government that controls the means of production and common ownership? Do I have that right?

 

[Conza88]

Erhm -- may I all direct you to the first link in my signature down below?

 

[torchbearer]

So Obama stands for a Global Government that controls the means of production and common ownership? Do I have that right?

No he stand for sacrificing a few for the many...
He stand for...
If its worth doing, its worth FORCING someone to do it

Its called collectivism. The very thing we are fighting. Are you sure you are on the right forum?

 

[acptulsa]

So Obama stands for a Global Government that controls the means of production and common ownership? Do I have that right?

From each, according to his ability. To each, according to how sorry Oprah feels for him!

 

[mjp1025]

Sheep have money, too!

 

[Aratus]

Did you see this latest poll? Its D.C "outsider" weather... the public is upset...
the public has deep doubts http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/04/03/opinion/polls/main3992628.shtml
Obama is more D.C outsider than is Ms. Hillary, just as Ron Paul is more D.C outsider
than is JOHN McCAIN! if the economy gets worse... Ron Paul's potential "indie" run
could maximize over the ones by ROSS PEROT!!! --- Kade is hinting at much...

 

[Aratus]

the public is not happy! the public is in a VERY antzy mood!
if we time things at the republican convention, this if in sync... !!!

 

[rockandrollsouls]

Obama sucks and his supporters are idiots. There. I'm not afraid to say it. It's true. They are all brainswashed morons. Kade is one of them.

 

[acptulsa]

Obama sucks and his supporters are idiots. There. I'm not afraid to say it. It's true. They are all brainswashed morons. Kade is one of them.

Oprah will get you for that...

 

[rockandrollsouls]

People with too much power who talk up people that don't know what they are preaching are a dangerous thing. Oprah is dangerous.

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

When the forum name changes to Fascist Forest, consider it done.

Join or die? I guess you die, eh (referring to your avatar)

 

[JosephTheLibertarian]

Want to know the truth? Maybe you can't handle the truth!

The MSM marginalized and ignored RP's campaign. So most people didn't know who he was and so they didn't vote for him. And everything they saw of him was negative, every interview was a load of diatribe. It's because the MSM is a corporate interest that picks their own candidates.

Is that a conspiracy? I saw that with my own eyes!

Guess what?

Obama's socialists are the ones that pulled that "racist newsletters" thing. It was a plan carried out by THEM! See how vicious socialists can be? We're not even out of the primaries andthey go right after Ron Paul in a different party. Why? because they know he's the only one that can beat their guy, they know he stands for freer markets and they don't want that.

They're scum.

Is COMMUNISM evil? No. It's a flawed system, I have no "beef" with it. Socialism can only work if it's voluntary, like a commune atmosphere. Those are good. People need to be free to leave when they want to.

Are COMMUNISTS evil? Not all. Many are just brainwashed. The rest are just evil. They don't care if free markets work, they want what they want and they are a cancer in this society All of the regulation and taxation originates from them and their professors that brainwash students to buy into their crap at the MAINSTREAM universities, while the free market economists are stuck somewhere near fringe and obscurity.

If Obama is their man, then I hope Hillary wins their nomination. Go hilldog! Do I support her? no lol but at least the communists aren't lining up behind her, so that's a plus in my book!

 

[Kade]

Join or die? I guess you die, eh (referring to your avatar)

Excuse me?

 

[amonasro]

Kade you have every right to supporting Obama and defending him here, but I disagree that his grassroots is the reason why he's doing well. His "grassroots" is a result of thousands upon thousands of sheep falling in love with him, as a person, on TV. Not one Obama supporter I've talked to has a deep understanding of his message. They judge him as a person, as the MSM presents him, as an easy-to-swallow candidate with "change". They duped millions, including you, into believing he's going to bring anything but more big government, more spending, and a Socialist agenda.

Respectfully I say to you: Get a clue. The man is on the news 24/7. Him and Clinton got the most coverage of ANY candidate. Look it up, wake up. This is why he is popular!

He is the boob-tube's American Idol of Presidential Elections, and he's a really good singer.

If you can present a logical argument why Obama could do as well as Paul without MSM coverage than do so. Otherwise we will continue tossing you around like a hot potato and calling out Obama for what he truly is: a Socialist.

 

[Kade]

Kade you have every right to supporting Obama and defending him here, but I disagree that his grassroots is the reason why he's doing well. His "grassroots" is a result of thousands upon thousands of sheep falling in love with him, as a person, on TV. Not one Obama supporter I've talked to has a deep understanding of his message. They judge him as a person, as the MSM presents him, as an easy-to-swallow candidate with "change". They duped millions, including you, into believing he's going to bring anything but more big government, more spending, and a Socialist agenda.

Respectfully I say to you: Get a clue. The man is on the news 24/7. Him and Clinton got the most coverage of ANY candidate. Look it up, wake up. This is why he is popular!

He is the boob-tube's American Idol of Presidential Elections, and he's a really good singer.

If you can present a logical argument why Obama could do as well as Paul without MSM coverage than do so. Otherwise we will continue tossing you around like a hot potato and calling out Obama for what he truly is: a Socialist.

I swear upon all altars of my life, I am the last person on this forum to be duped by anything.

Think real hard on that, before you decide to open your trap again.

 

[amonasro]

I swear upon all altars of my life, I am the last person on this forum to be duped by anything.

Think real hard on that, before you decide to open your trap again.

Whoa horsie... that kind of talk isn't going to get you far around here.

 

[Kade]

If you can present a logical argument why Obama could do as well as Paul without MSM coverage than do so. Otherwise we will continue tossing you around like a hot potato and calling out Obama for what he truly is: a Socialist.

Many liberty loving people can intellectually defend Socialism. Those people would also have a problem with Obama, since Obama tends to like Capitalism too much. Private property and uncontrolled prices.

That you are allowed to use socialism as a pejorative is attributed to greater thinkers than yourself, much greater thinkers.

You can't think beyond yourself, nor can you think for yourself. I'm not a socialist, nor am I a Trotskyist, nor am I a Marxist, nor am I a Social Democrat. I am also not a conservative.

I don't particularly like labels, but if you want one, you can call me liberal. I'm proud to be one. I'm proud that I actually stand up for ignorant people so that I have a forum and public sphere where I can talk with people who actually are halfway educated about anything.

It is hard enough to defend liberal economic principles to real socialists without tools like you coming along every other post to label me as one.

No, I don't swallow the flavor-aid. I'm not an absolutist about anything. I look for facts and I look for evidence, and I figure things out for myself. I disagree with Ron Paul on numerous issues, and I disagree with Obama on many issues. The things that matter most to me, like the Iraq War, Civil Liberties, and the Supreme Court are generally weighted heavy on the side of Paul and Obama.

See you don't learn everything you need to in school, or from your family, or from this forum, (thank non-god). It is up to you, and I would recommend staying away from the conspiracy sites.

There are major and complex problems associated with all walks of life, some principles are more important than others. I consider freedom an important principle, so I defend it wherever I may go...

I could write for hours about every major political philosophy. I can tell you why capitalism doesn't protect against foreign scavenging of our businesses. I can tell you why socialism inevitably leads to totalitarianism. I can tell you why conservatism leads to nationalism and fascism.

I don't know what works perfectly, nothing does. The system we have has survived for a good many years, and now it is truly threatened. I believe that. This administration has created a very heavy executive branch, but I also believe the pendulum will swing the other way... at least it looks that way.

We have issues to worry about, the economy, the banks, the federal government oversight into everything, loss of freedoms, overspending of government, foreign wars, environment... etc..etc...

Nobody has the "correct" answer because someone somewhere disagrees. Sometimes the best answer will piss off the most people, and sometimes its a populist approach, and it tries to make everyone happy.

As long as we have people willing to dissent, willing to fight, and willing to stand up for, at the very least, themselves, we can right the ship. Nothing is absolute.

Chill.