Oathkeepers, Adam Kokesh, and the POSTPONED open carry march...

[phill4paul]

Take our government back from the criminals who have hijacked it.

That's not a plan. It is a slogan.

Overthrowing governments is what the criminals/globalists in charge have been doing for decades now. They (we) arm, fund, and agitate the youth (the rebels, the freedom fighters, the terrorists) of foreign countries to fight against their own government. When successful, we then install our puppet dictator/president/etc.

I don't arm them. I don't pay income tax and I buy exclusively second hand (not true..toilet paper).

The same thing is being socially engineered here and Adam Kokesh is an agitator. He is the equivalent of the people we use in other countries to work against their government...diff is he is working against ours now. So who is he trying to overthrow the government for? If you think overthrowing our government is going to end up as self governance then I got a bridge to sell ya.

I fail to see where anything could be worse than what we have. If you read between the lines it is what it is. I don't mind bridges. I'd buy one. Let me see it first.

 

[Michigan11]

Forget about Kokesh, he's simply voicing what many in this country are feeling right now, and more so by the day, from what I see. The people were confused over the past few years, even blind to their own changing reality, and are now growing angry I can see, and it's becoming very readily apparent to even those not paying attention. The signs of small subtle changes are all over for anyone with a pulse to see the undercurrent forming. It's falling apart, it's just whose perceptions are reality is the question.

 

[PatriotOne]

That's not a plan. It is a slogan.



I don't arm them. I don't pay income tax and I buy exclusively second hand (not true..toilet paper).



I fail to see where anything could be worse than what we have. If you read between the lines it is what it is. I don't mind bridges. I'd buy one. Let me see it first.

Either I explained myself badly or you totally missed my point. Maybe a bit of both.

You ask what could be worse? One World Government. That is the plan you know. That is why all the chaos is being created around the world in the first place. And yes....we are on the hit list also.

George Soros btw has funded quite a few "revolutions" around the world. Remember the Code Pink connections to ole George and Kokesh's connections to Code Pink?

Anyway....got better things to do tonight that talk to brick walls again .

 

[bolil]

Forget about Kokesh, he's simply voicing what many in this country are feeling right now, and more so by the day, from what I see. The people were confused over the past few years, even blind to their own changing reality, and are now growing angry I can see, and it's becoming very readily apparent to even those not paying attention. The signs of small subtle changes are all over for anyone with a pulse to see the undercurrent forming. It's falling apart, it's just whose perceptions are reality is the question.

Anger is energy, in its most potent form. Angry people don't care about pain, or feelings, or consequences. They only care about satisfying that crave. Nothing happens without energy. Anger, and hate, are things that can be useful.

The pulse has always been there, and I agree the throb is growing stronger... or so I hope. Hate can be directed, it can be co-opted. Anger... that beautiful craze, can never be.

Hatred is a condition, it is a continued sentiment. Anger is not a condition, anger does not give shit, anger is hope and it is courage. Hate does not arouse action, anger does not need to be aroused it just acts. I guess that is not quite right, anger needs to be aroused but once it is requires no additional impetus for drastic action.

We need people to get pissed, really pissed, seeing red fuck a pig pissed.

 

[phill4paul]

Either I explained myself badly or you totally missed my point. Maybe a bit of both.

You ask what could be worse? One World Government. That is the plan you know. That is why all the chaos is being created around the world in the first place. And yes....we are on the hit list also.

One world government? That's a conspiracy and I'm taken entirely off guard. harumph......

We are a part of it. It's not tomorrow. It is here and now.

Still waiting on YOUR plan.

 

[Michigan11]

Anger is energy, in its most potent form. Angry people don't care about pain, or feelings, or consequences. They only care about satisfying that crave. Nothing happens without energy. Anger, and hate, are things that can be useful.

The pulse has always been there, and I agree the throb is growing stronger... or so I hope. Hate can be directed, it can be co-opted. Anger... that beautiful craze, can never be.

Hatred is a condition, it is a continued sentiment. Anger is not a condition, anger does not give shit, anger is hope and it is courage.

I completely agree. Anger is good, in fact it is fucking great. It's all part of the plan of continuing to fan those flames out there in the minds of people everywhere. The more populated areas are definitely beginning to burn with fire. You can see it, in fact I may post a thread on it, and my perspective. Time is shortening no doubt in my mind, in fact we don't need to be guessing, it's right out there in front of us daily. Sometimes we have to remind ourselves and others how far we have driffted from a reality of what we once saw as "daily norm" to see our new "daily norm" in it's reality.

 

[PatriotOne]

One world government? That's a conspiracy and I'm taken entirely off guard. harumph......

We are a part of it. It's not tomorrow. It is here and now.

Still waiting on YOUR plan.

No it is not here now. The infrastructure is in place. The U.S. Government has to be "overthrown" first.

My plan does not include participating in the George Soros engineered U.S. "revolution" with lackey Kokesh.

Kokesh has been neutralized so I am not really worried about him now. He's done except for his blustering exit back into obscurity.

 

[bolil]

No it is not here now. The infrastructure is in place. The U.S. Government has to be "overthrown" first.

My plan does not include participating in the George Soros engineered U.S. "revolution" with lackey Kokesh.

Kokesh has been neutralized so I am not really worried about him now. He's done except for his blustering exit back into obscurity.

What evidence do you have that Adam Kokesh is some kind of Soros operative?

If he is on his way, blustering, back into obscurity I wonder what you're doing... having never escaped obscurity and blustering on anyways?

I guess I just have more respect for a man that puts his own face on his own words than one that tippity taps... 'bluster'.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

So basically after he overthrows our Government, the plan is for self-governance....like the mafia.

What we have is the mafia. The only difference is that their protection racket is "legitimate" in they eyes of the people who are oppressed. They are a protection racket, threatening you in order to get you to purchase their "protection".

Self-governance is supposed to be the principle this nation was founded on. It could have been better applied though.

You are free to organize with like-minded people according to the principles you share. Kokesh wants to live in a community where there is a free market in voluntarily funded governing institutions.

 

[phill4paul]

No it is not here now. The infrastructure is in place. The U.S. Government has to be "overthrown" first.

My plan does not include participating in the George Soros engineered U.S. "revolution" with lackey Kokesh.

Kokesh has been neutralized so I am not really worried about him now. He's done except for his blustering exit back into obscurity.

Done with this discussion. Thanks.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

Take our government back from the criminals who have hijacked it.

Overthrowing governments is what the criminals/globalists in charge have been doing for decades now. They (we) arm, fund, and agitate the youth (the rebels, the freedom fighters, the terrorists) of foreign countries to fight against their own government. When successful, we then install our puppet dictator/president/etc.

The same thing is being socially engineered here and Adam Kokesh is an agitator. He is the equivalent of the people we use in other countries to work against their government...diff is he is working against ours now. So who is he trying to overthrow the government for? If you think overthrowing our government is going to end up as self governance then I got a bridge to sell ya.
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I could go on for days and days and days posting about how we and the globalist front groups fund the "revolutions".

There is no "taking it back". There is no "reverting back to a nostalgic time", and "we" were never really in control at any point. It's always been a ruling class of elites concentrating more and more power into the central apparatus. The US is losing it's coherence as it increasingly becomes apparent that it's functioning more for the elite than the mass of the people and people get disillusioned over it, and it was bound to happen. The US Government can't and won't last forever, and it never was going to in the first place. The founders recognized this, remember Jefferson's words about hoping for it to be "overthrown" often? Everyone here recognizes that this wasn't what they envisioned. It is what it is. The best we can hope for is for the power which has been concentrated to be decentralized as smoothly and in the most peaceful manner possible.

The colonial revolutionaries were also "agitators" who were attempting to form a wholly new paradigm of government out of an age of monarchy. It was a completely radical experiment at the time.

The US government is as close to a state with hegemony over the earth that the world is likely to ever see and it's coming apart at the seams, not because it's being engineered but because it's flat out impossible to sustain. It's the goal of every state institution to achieve that status because consolidation of power is the goal, and the only logical conclusion is total global control over every individual's actions on earth from a center of power.

It's not economically feasible, and it would be an impossible feat to organize the world the way you're talking about. No doubt there are people who would try, but that's been going on since as long as governments have existed.

States ultimately gain their power from the consent of their subjects, and they're still bound to economic law. Technology is continuing to empower decentralization, and governments all over the world are suffering catastrophic problems from playing petty political power games which ignore economic laws of nature. Liberty is the future, not a global dystopian totalitarian mega-state.

 

[PatriotOne]

This video was fascinating. Another ex-marine talks and demonstrates how Kokesh was leading people into what the marines call a kill-zone (a bridge).

Patriots Being Led Into "Kill Zone" At D.C. "Armed Revolt"

 

[UWDude]

This video was fascinating. Another ex-marine talks and demonstrates how Kokesh was leading people into what the marines call a kill-zone (a bridge).

Patriots Being Led Into "Kill Zone" At D.C. "Armed Revolt"

All these armchair generals with their stupid fantasies of an open air fight with the government have no clue about revolutions or how they happen. The BLACK panthers marched with weapons on a state capital in racist America, and were not mowed down by the racist police of the day. The people criticizing Kokesh have no clue what he was trying to accomplish, instead, they revert to civil -war-esque stupidities of questioning tactics and positions, as if there were to be some kind of ready aim fire muster on the bridge between Virginia and D.C.

These losers need to read a fucking book or two about protest, street theater, and revolution, and get a fucking grip.

There would not have been, and there will not be, any great bloody battle on the fourth of july. What a bunch of puerile masturbatory fantasies.

 

[WhistlinDave]

I have never seen anybody cut up a card with such calculated anger before. Adam sure went to town on that thing didn’t he! I am not sure what got grilled harder that poor card or Oathkeepers?

I actually thought that was about the most calm, subdued part of the whole rant, when he was cutting up the card.

 

[PatriotOne]

All these armchair generals with their stupid fantasies of an open air fight with the government have no clue about revolutions or how they happen. The BLACK panthers marched with weapons on a state capital in racist America, and were not mowed down by the racist police of the day. The people criticizing Kokesh have no clue what he was trying to accomplish, instead, they revert to civil -war-esque stupidities of questioning tactics and positions, as if there were to be some kind of ready aim fire muster on the bridge between Virginia and D.C.

These losers need to read a fucking book or two about protest, street theater, and revolution, and get a fucking grip.

There would not have been, and there will not be, any great bloody battle on the fourth of july. What a bunch of puerile masturbatory fantasies.

Black Panthers. Yet another Marxist/Socialist group undoubtedly funded behind the scenes by the globalists pushing an agenda.

Your the one who has no idea how "revolutions" are started these days. Most are socially engineered by the same people you think you are fighting.

 

[UWDude]

Black Panthers. Yet another Marxist/Socialist group undoubtedly funded behind the scenes by the globalists pushing an agenda.

Are we talking tactics or agenda now? Because my mentioning of the black panthers was not about why they were doing it, it was about why the "OMG THEY ARE GUNNA BLAST YOU ALL TO BITS" hysteria is so unfounded.

Your the one who has no idea how "revolutions" are started these days. Most are socially engineered by the same people you think you are fighting.

There is no revolution, fool. Just street theater. Get that through your thick skull.


You remind me of this old tottering fat guy with a civil war hat at Occupy, who wanted all the tents in a back corner so we could make "defensible line" to protect against a "picket charge"and keep "our flank covered". He completely missed the point of occupy, which was to be in people's faces, and bypass the media.

There is not going to be any open warfare. Capice? The idea is publicity, the idea is a show of empowerment, the idea is to show what weaklings police forces are when facing armed protesters as opposed to hippies in birkenstocks screaming "why the violence, man".

The march is a GREAT idea.

 

[PatriotOne]

Are we talking tactics or agenda now? Because my mentioning of the black panthers was not about why they were doing it, it was about why the "OMG THEY ARE GUNNA BLAST YOU ALL TO BITS" hysteria is so unfounded.



There is no revolution, fool. Just street theater. Get that through your thick skull.


You remind me of this old tottering fat guy with a civil war hat at Occupy, who wanted all the tents in a back corner so we could make "defensible line" to protect against a "picket charge"and keep "our flank covered". He completely missed the point of occupy, which was to be in people's faces, and bypass the media.

There is not going to be any open warfare. Capice? The idea is publicity, the idea is a show of empowerment, the idea is to show what weaklings police forces are when facing armed protesters as opposed to hippies in birkenstocks screaming "why the violence, man".

The march is a GREAT idea.

LOL. Occupy Wall Street. Yet ANOTHER Marxist/Socialist/Communist funded "revolution" by globalist/One World Government promoter George Soros. You seeing a pattern yet?

Kokesh bff Code Pinko buddies - Soros funded
Black Panthers - Marxists
Occupy Wall Street - Marxist/Commie funded Soros

You think you can manage to post at least one post without mentioning Marxist revolutions?

 

[UWDude]

LOL. Occupy Wall Street. Yet ANOTHER Marxist/Socialist/Communist funded "revolution" by globalist/One World Government promoter George Soros. You seeing a pattern yet?

Kokesh bff Code Pinko buddies - Soros funded
Black Panthers - Marxists
Occupy Wall Street - Marxist/Commie funded Soros

You think you can manage to post at least one post without mentioning Marxist revolutions?

It's all a communist conspiracy.

I was at Occupy Seattle for two months. I assure you, there was no major funding from anything. I took in the donations from regular people daily, and most of those donations were in material form, not cash.

And once again, you are trying to turn a discussion about tactics into a discussion about ideology, since you obviously are failing in the tactics discussion.

So even if Adam Kokesh is a cointelpro/KGB/communist infiltrator... ...do you seriously think those following him are? And if they are, do you actually think they would be willing to open fire on a line of police? Have you ever faced a line of police yourself? Or are you just blabbering like a fucking pussy with a big mouth that needed to be slapped years ago?

 

[noneedtoaggress]

All these armchair generals with their stupid fantasies of an open air fight with the government have no clue about revolutions or how they happen. The BLACK panthers marched with weapons on a state capital in racist America, and were not mowed down by the racist police of the day. The people criticizing Kokesh have no clue what he was trying to accomplish, instead, they revert to civil -war-esque stupidities of questioning tactics and positions, as if there were to be some kind of ready aim fire muster on the bridge between Virginia and D.C.

These losers need to read a fucking book or two about protest, street theater, and revolution, and get a fucking grip.

There would not have been, and there will not be, any great bloody battle on the fourth of july. What a bunch of puerile masturbatory fantasies.

Exactly. This guy has barely has a surface level comprehension of the event, and obviously doesn't understand what Kokesh's strategy was for the march or what his goals even were. His comprehension of it is only on the level of armed conflict.

From looking through his channel, he's trying to compete with Kokesh's show in some regards, and almost seems somewhat jealous. Looks like several of his latest shows have been dedicate directly to criticizing him.

What's funny though is that this guy is ragging on Kokesh for smoking cannabis after he goes on a rant about how humans are genetically engineering Biblical creatures, UFOs and Aliens are really Demons, and how he wants to make a show about evidence that Obama is may be the Anti-Christ.

 

[noneedtoaggress]

DEMONIC MARXIST-ALIENARCHRISTS ARE GENETICALLY ENGINEERING THE GLOBAL NWO!!!!!