NYC - Woman locks out squatters in her home, gets arrested for changing the locks

So, the first Storm Troopers removed the man because he couldn't produce paperwork showing he'd been there for 30 days.

But the second set of Storm Troopers allowed him to stay even though the 2nd guy was also unable to produce any documentation, other than bills...
 
For some reason I did not have Mike Malice on my follow list.

Fixed, thanks.

That bottom photo should go viral.

Life in AmeriKa 2024.

https://twitter.com/LibertyCappy/status/1770267340736799133
& https://twitter.com/RealSpikeCohen/status/1770293715136880947
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I don't know all of the details/facts surrounding this, but when something is legitimately abandoned, what does it matter who takes it over?

I thought the right to property was the ne plus ultra of ana-cap, agorist thought?

But I guess the rights of the invading horde takes precedence over even that.

How the fuck would Juan Carlos there know if the property is truly abandoned?

Plenty of reasons why a property can appear empty or "abandoned".

Maybe I'm just leaving it empty to use at a future date.

Maybe I'm holding it to give to my kids when they finish school or turn 21?

Maybe I don't need to tell some screaming, invading, piece of shit what the fuck I want to do with it.

If it does not legitimately belong to you, stay the fuck out, cabrón.
 
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I thought the right to property was the ne plus ultra of ana-cap, agorist thought?

Absolutely, I didn't imply otherwise.

But I guess the rights of the invading horde takes precedence over even that.

I am referring to any individual, American or not, Christian or not, whatever or not.


How the $#@! would Juan Carlos there know if the property is truly abandoned?

Reading? Research? Visiting? Who knows?


Maybe I'm just leaving it empty to use at a future date.

Perhaps you are. But I can't tell you the number of cars, and homes, that I come across that have been legitimately abandoned; cars rusting out, doors/engines/parts taken, collapsed roofs on homes that have been sitting for years/decades, etc., which are a hazard to others, including surrounding property values.


Maybe I'm holding it to give to my kids when they finish school or turn 21?

Maybe I don't need to tell some screaming, invading, piece of $#@! what the $#@! I want to do with it.

Then at least take the responsibility to take care of it so that said property does not become a hazard, to me, others and surrounding property values within a community.


If it does not legitimately belong to you, stay the $#@! out.

I merely asked a question concerning legitimate abandonment. How does it related to basic homesteading principles?
 
I don't know all of the details/facts surrounding this, but when something is legitimately abandoned, what does it matter who takes it over?

If it's some dump in Detroit and truly abandoned, I doubt anyone cares except for anyone living nearby since those types of places usually become hangouts for drug addicts and criminals. The squatting stories reported in the news are not dumps. In the case of the lady in the OP, she had lived in the house and moved out to sell it. There have been people who have simply been away (vacation, work) and come home to find squatters in their homes. IOW, it probably doesn't rise to level of squatting if nobody owns the property (abandoned).
 
If it's some dump in Detroit and truly abandoned, I doubt anyone cares except for anyone living nearby since those types of places usually become hangouts for drug addicts and criminals. The squatting stories reported in the news are not dumps. In the case of the lady in the OP, she had lived in the house and moved out to sell it. There have been people who have simply been away (vacation, work) and come home to find squatters in their homes. IOW, it probably doesn't rise to level of squatting if nobody owns the property (abandoned).


I specifically cited [MENTION=1874]Brian4Liberty[/MENTION] post/example, which I have no problem with, if legitimate. Basic homesteading and all ;-)
 
I specifically cited [MENTION=1874]Brian4Liberty[/MENTION] post/example, which I have no problem with, if legitimate. Basic homesteading and all ;-)

As [MENTION=3169]Anti Federalist[/MENTION] points out, it's unlikely that TikTok guy is familiar with the finer points of homesteading and will squat in someone else's property.
 
Perhaps you are. But I can't tell you the number of cars, and homes, that I come across that have been legitimately abandoned; cars rusting out, doors/engines/parts taken, collapsed roofs on homes that have been sitting for years/decades, etc., which are a hazard to others, including surrounding property values.

Whoa whoa whoa, wait just a goddamn minute here.

I thought I had no right whatsoever to have any say in what somebody else may do with their property, even if it negatively affects me, like moving 30 Haitians into the joint and turning my neighborhood into a Port-au-Prince looking slum tenement.

Maybe they just want to use the property to store junk.
 
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Whoa whoa whoa, wait just a goddamn minute here.

I thought I had no right whatsoever to have any say in what somebody else may do with their property, even if it negatively affects me, like moving 30 Haitians into the joint and turning my neighborhood into a Port-au-Prince looking slum tenement.

Maybe they just want to use the property to store junk.

*popcorn*
 
Whoa whoa whoa, wait just a goddamn minute here.

I thought I had no right whatsoever to have any say in what somebody else may do with their property, even if it negatively affects me, like moving 30 Haitians into the joint and turning my neighborhood into a Port-au-Prince looking slum tenement.

You are 100% correct. But, abandonment is a completely different matter.

Maybe they just want to use the property to store junk.

Do what you want. Just make sure that you have insurance, or a means to repay me, if/when your neglect happens to affect my property.



[MENTION=1515]susano[/MENTION] :raisinghand:
 
You are 100% correct. But, abandonment is a completely different matter.



Do what you want. Just make sure that you have insurance, or a means to repay me, if/when your neglect happens to affect my property.



[MENTION=1515]susano[/MENTION] :raisinghand:

No man is an island, nor any house.

lol
 
Do what you want. Just make sure that you have insurance, or a means to repay me, if/when your neglect happens to affect my property.

Ok, so that establishes the fact that what I do with my property, can have negative consequences on your property.

We are now just picking nits as to the level of effect and how to compensate for it and to what level of "pre harm" compensation I must have on hand.
 
Ok, so that establishes the fact that what I do with my property, can have negative consequences on your property.

We are now just picking nits as to the level of effect and how to compensate for it and to what level of "pre harm" compensation I must have on hand.


I believe that we are somewhat on the same page concerning property rights, setting aside how you feel toward me wanting to hire somebody who is not *authorized* by fed.gov, including what wage the fed.gov determines I should pay, simply because private contract rights don't matter to you.

I thought that we were discussing legitimate abandonment of property, were we not?
 
I believe that we are somewhat on the same page concerning property rights, setting aside how you feel toward me wanting to hire somebody who is not *authorized* by fed.gov, including what wage the fed.gov determines I should pay, simply because private contract rights don't matter to you.

I thought that we were discussing legitimate abandonment of property, were we not?
Would you use law to define abandonment of property? What makes you think that property is ever abandoned?
Is abandoning property defined as not being there for a period of time? I would think that if I wanted to abandon something, I would put it in writing that I am abandoning said thing.
 
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