NY-Remember the cops that tormented the elderly Marine vet, then shot him?

[Anti Federalist]

Procedure was followed.

Tragic "civilian" loss of life.

Move along, Mundanes.

Never call the cops, never let machines call the cops for you.



Grand Jury Clears Cop Who Shot Unarmed Marine Vet In His Home

http://gothamist.com/2012/05/03/grand_jury_votes_not_to_indict_cop.php

By Ben Yakas in News on May 3, 2012 4:24 PM

A Westchester County grand jury has decided not to indict the White Plains officer who fatally shot an unarmed chronically ill elderly black man. There will be no trial for Officer Anthony Carelli, who shot Marine veteran Kenneth Chamberlain, Sr. during a tense confrontation last November. “After due deliberation on the evidence presented in this matter, the grand jury found that there was no reasonable cause to vote an indictment,” said Westchester County District Attorney Janet DiFiore, who added that the case was “a tragedy on many levels.”

Carelli, an officer since 2004 who is also on trial in a separate police brutality case, shot Chamberlain Sr. on Nov. 19 after an hour-long standoff with police. Chamberlain Sr., who suffered from a chronic heart condition and wore a pendant to signal LifeAid, had mistakenly triggered his medical alert that evening—police insisted on entering his apartment, although he said he was fine. Tensions grew as one officer allegedly used the N-word, another officer was reportedly heard yelling, “I need to use your bathroom to pee!" and others were allegedly mocking Chamberlain’s military service after they discovered he was a former Marine.

The lawyer for the family of Chamberlain Sr., who has reviewed the LifeAid audiobox recording (which picked up every sound inside the apartment during the fatal confrontation) and the security camera video, said: “The minute they got in the house, they didn’t even give him one command. They never mentioned ‘put your hands up.’ They never told him to lay down on the bed. The first thing they did...you could see the Taser light up...and you could see it going directly toward him.” Police claim Chamberlain was an "emotionally disturbed" man who first appeared to have a hatchet during the standoff, then later came at them with a knife—which wasn't captured on video—when Carelli fired two shots. Chamberlain died a few hours later in surgery from his wounds.

“We believe the evidence confirming Officer Carelli’s actions were justified was overwhelming,” attorney Andrew Quinn said. “While it’s always tragic when a civilian loses his life, Officer Carelli’s actions in this matter were clearly justified.” DiFiore had received criticism throughout the case because of her initial reluctance to release the name of the officer.

“My family and I are profoundly saddened at the fact that there was no indictment in the murder of Kenneth Chamberlain Sr.,” the victim's son Kenneth Chamberlain Jr. said in the statement. “I have a hard time putting my trust in a system that I feel has failed me already.” The family has also said the medical examiner’s autopsy report’s description of the path of the bullet shows that Chamberlain could not have been raising his arm to stab an officer when he was shot. Chamberlain family lawyers Randolph McLaughlin and Mayo Bartlett have notified the city of their intention to file a civil lawsuit in the case.

 

[JK/SEA]

Rev. Sharpton and Jesse will be furious. Should be some big fallout from this......WAIT...how come this ain't on MSNBC or CNN?...

 

[TheTexan]

Rev. Sharpton and Jesse will be furious. Should be some big fallout from this......WAIT...how come this ain't on MSNBC or CNN?...

No skittles

 

[asurfaholic]

Ohh.. what I would give, just to punch that sucker cop right in the jaw as hard as I can.

 

[mrsat_98]

I wonder if the poor fellow even thought to just close his door.

 

[TheTexan]

“We believe the evidence confirming Officer Carelli’s actions were justified was overwhelming,” attorney Andrew Quinn said.

The evidence of course, being all of the officers' testimonies. The cops all overwhelmingly say the shooting was justified.

As Azxd would say, "what, do you think ALL of them are lying? do you know how ludicrous that sounds?"

 

[Anti Federalist]

Feds to review shooting death of ailing veteran in New York

http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/04/justice/new-york-chamberlain-death/index.html

New York (CNN) -- Federal prosecutors will investigate the case of a white police officer who shot and killed an ailing 68-year-old black veteran in his own apartment, a spokeswoman said Friday.

"Consistent with our office's practices in cases of this kind, we will review all of the available evidence with respect to the death of Kenneth Chamberlain, including the evidence collected during the state's investigation, to determine whether there were any violations of the federal criminal civil rights laws," said Ellen Davis, spokeswoman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York.

She spoke one day after a New York grand jury declined to indict Anthony Carelli, the officer who fired the fatal shots.

The officer's attorney, Andrew Quinn, released a written statement after news of the federal review broke.

"We remain confident that the Office of the United States Attorney will conduct a thorough, unbiased and complete investigation and will undoubtedly reach the same conclusion as the Westchester County Grand Jury: that Officer Carelli's actions, while tragic in result, were necessary to save the life of his fellow officer," he said.

The shooting occurred in November after police responded to a call that Chamberlain, who suffered from respiratory and heart problems, had set off his medical alert device, indicating he needed help. The encounter was recorded by audio and video devices that police released to the public to counter charges they had engaged in excessive force and racial profiling.

Westchester County District Attorney Janet DiFiore called the shooting "a tragedy on many levels" but said the grand jury had not chosen to indict after hearing from 42 witnesses, including Carelli.

"There were civilian witnesses, there were police witnesses, there were expert witnesses,100 exhibits went before that jury. And in this case, most of this event was captured in audio and videotape," DiFiore said. "All of that information was before the people who made the determination in this case."

Following her announcement, the White Plains Police Department released much of this evidence, including portions of the audio and videotapes and 200 pages of documents.

In the very early hours of November 19, Chamberlain had accidentally set off a medical alert pendant he wore around his neck in case of emergency.

The company that monitors the device alerted the city, which dispatched an ambulance to the scene. Police arrived first and are seen entering on a hallway security camera.

An audio tape of a speakerphone inside Chamberlain's apartment records the dispatcher asking Chamberlain if he is okay. He repeatedly says he is fine and asks for police to go away.

"This is your health center, Full life aid. Mr. Chamberlain do you need help?" they ask him at one point.

"Yes, this is emergency, I have the White Plains Police Department knocking on my door and I did not call them and I am not sick," he replies. He is then heard asking the police to please go away.

In the written reports, Officer Stephen Demchuk describes Chamberlain as an irrational man who stuck an 8-inch butcher knife through a crack in the door and jammed it shut with a chair when police tried to enter. Police carried a Taser gun with a video camera on it that recorded about 20 minutes of their efforts to get inside. A metal object is protruding through a crack in the door, but it is unclear what it is.

Next, police can be seen forcing the door open and firing the Taser at Chamberlain, who is wearing only shorts. He is standing there with only one arm visible at his side and yells "shoot me, shoot me, mother (expletive), shoot me:" It is unclear whether the Taser fire strikes him. He is left standing there when the video cuts off.

Police say that after the Taser failed they shot bean bags at Chamberlain, then forced their way in. Demchuk says Chamberlain made "continuous slashing motions towards my head and face" and that officer Carelli fired real bullets only when Chamberlain went after another officer "with the butcher knife raised."

Photos of the crime scene show signs of forced entry, blood on the floor and an overturned chair. There is no video of the shooting.

"He feared for his life," said Chamberlain's son, also named Kenneth. "He kept asking them to go away and that he didn't need their help." He said his father was an old man who was sick and said police were not justified in forcing their way in when he had committed no crime.

Chamberlain's niece, Tonya Greenhill, was outside the door with police, asking them to let her talk to her uncle instead of forcing their way in, she said.

"I heard my uncle begging and pleading them to please leave him alone," Greenhill said. "I could begin to almost hear fear in his voice."

Chamberlain, a former Marine, had such severe respiratory problems he could not walk a flight of stairs, according to his medical records. An autopsy released yesterday showed he had a blood alcohol level of 0.11 -- high enough to be considered legally drunk.

Greenhill, who lives in the building, said her uncle told them he was fine when they arrived but did not want to open the door. She said she insisted to police that they let him talk to his family, but they refused.

David Chong, White Plains public safety commissioner, told reporters: "We are obligated as a police department never to walk away from an emergency and we're not going to."

He added that his department would be reviewing the entire case and how they deal with emotionally disturbed people in the future. The city has said it will also conduct an independent review.

In wake of the case of Trayvon Martin, the unarmed, black 17-year-old who was shot and killed in Sanford, Florida, by a neighborhood watch volunteer, the Chamberlain case gained national attention with more than 206,000 signing an online petition asking for the district attorney to charge the officers involved in the shooting with murder and civil rights violations.

The family said they believed Chamberlain was treated differently because he lives in a housing project and is black. They said could hear one of the police officers on the audio tape referring to Chamberlain by using the N-word.

That was not part of the evidence released, but the district attorney confirmed it was on the tape and said: "The use of a racial epithet in any context is offensive to the dignity of all of us."

 

[Philhelm]

The cop looks like a big bag of dicks. It's pretty clear which person in the above photos should be trusted with a firearm.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

The family said they believed Chamberlain was treated differently because he lives in a housing project and is black. They said could hear one of the police officers on the audio tape referring to Chamberlain by using the N-word.

That was not part of the evidence released, but the district attorney confirmed it was on the tape and said: "The use of a racial epithet in any context is offensive to the dignity of all of us."

Racism has no place in L.E. The fact that he wasn't fired because of this alone shows the kind of protection they are giving him. Add to the fact that he gunned down a 86 year old marine veteran; he should be put on trial and executed.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

I wonder if the poor fellow even thought to just close his door.

I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll start with the article stating he did do just that. Then I guess I'll go to the part where he is 68 years old. Then, I suppose I should mention he was outmatched. (guns, health, etc.) And I guess I would finish by asking.. are you really that naive to think they would just say, "Oh, well he shut the door. All's well that ends well," and leave? IT WAS A MEDICAL CALL. Not only is it a tragedy police show up to medical calls, THEY EXECUTED AN AMERICAN HERO. And to add insult to death, the D.A. admits racial slurs can be heard on the recording. Who really has that much hatred in their soul as to yell racial slurs at a scared elderly man?

 

[Sublyminal]

I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll start with the article stating he did do just that. Then I guess I'll go to the part where he is 68 years old. Then, I suppose I should mention he was outmatched. (guns, health, etc.) And I guess I would finish by asking.. are you really that naive to think they would just say, "Oh, well he shut the door. All's well that ends well," and leave? IT WAS A MEDICAL CALL. Not only is it a tragedy police show up to medical calls, THEY EXECUTED AN AMERICAN HERO. And to add insult to death, the D.A. admits racial slurs can be heard on the recording. Who really has that much hatred in their soul as to yell racial slurs at a scared elderly man?

A police officers job is to save lives, just as an EMT and Firefighters job is to save them as well. Just because the former Marine said he was okay, they had to check, hewas being stubborn like most of us formerly active duty Marines can be. A lot of these police tragedy can easily be stopped if people would just follow orders. This Marineshould have known that.

We can't sit here and constantly blame the justice system for shit like this, the cop was tried fair and square and found innocent by a grand jury, what more do you guyswant? This isn't the wild wild west, where you can just string people up and shoot them vigilante style because you don't like what the jury has to say.

 

[Sublyminal]

I don't even know where to begin. I guess I'll start with the article stating he did do just that. Then I guess I'll go to the part where he is 68 years old. Then, I suppose I should mention he was outmatched. (guns, health, etc.) And I guess I would finish by asking.. are you really that naive to think they would just say, "Oh, well he shut the door. All's well that ends well," and leave? IT WAS A MEDICAL CALL. Not only is it a tragedy police show up to medical calls, THEY EXECUTED AN AMERICAN HERO. And to add insult to death, the D.A. admits racial slurs can be heard on the recording. Who really has that much hatred in their soul as to yell racial slurs at a scared elderly man?

Uhh, police around here show up as first responder's all the time. What state are you from?

 

[kcchiefs6465]

A police officers job is to save lives, just as an EMT and Firefighters job is to save them as well. Just because the former Marine said he was okay, they had to check, hewas being stubborn like most of us formerly active duty Marines can be. A lot of these police tragedy can easily be stopped if people would just follow orders. This Marineshould have known that.We can't sit here and constantly blame the justice system for shit like this, the cop was tried fair and square and found innocent by a grand jury, what more do you guyswant? This isn't the wild wild west, where you can just string people up and shoot them vigilante style because you don't like what the jury has to say.

And what a fine job they did. For the second bolded statement, that is exactly what I would expect you to say. Were you L.E. in a small community or an urban area? Just for some perspective into why you could possibly think the way you do. Feel free not to answer.

 

[kcchiefs6465]

Uhh, police around here show up as first responder's all the time. What state are you from?

Ohio. They are first responders when needed, i.e. to cordone off a highway because of an accident etc. not as a policy. I want you to re-read this, "THEY EXECUTED AN AMERICAN HERO. And to add insult to death, the D.A. admits racial slurs can be heard on the recording. Who really has that much hatred in their soul as to yell racial slurs at a scared elderly man?" Do you not have any compassion for this fellow marine? Rhetorical question.

 

[Sublyminal]

And what a fine job they did. For the second bolded statement, that is exactly what I would expect you to say. Were you L.E. in a small community or an urban area? Just for some perspective into why you could possibly think the way you do. Feel free not to answer.

I am a LEO in the Virginia Beach Police Department, so it's not a small community not by a long shot.

 

[Sublyminal]

Ohio. They are first responders when needed, i.e. to cordone off a highway because of an accident etc. not as a policy. I want you to re-read this, "THEY EXECUTED AN AMERICAN HERO. And to add insult to death, the D.A. admits racial slurs can be heard on the recording. Who really has that much hatred in their soul as to yell racial slurs at a scared elderly man?" Do you not have any compassion for this fellow marine? Rhetorical question.

And yes, I have compassion for this fellow Marine, and he'd still be alive to this day had he followed the officers orders. And IF I was one of the first responders on the scene, and he came at me with a machete or any type of knife, I would have shot him too. If you have no been in a situation where your life is in danger, you can't even comprehend what goes through an LEO's mind. Much like war, you have a split second to decide whether this guy is an enemy or whether or not he's peaceful.

Do any of you bother thinking that maybe this officer has a family? Do any of you know what it's like to be laying down on your back with bullet holes in you, not knowingwhether or not you'll ever see your family again? I have the unique perspective of having been wounded in war and the unique perspective of being an LEO. Why do you think I try to look at shit from both sides of the isle?

 

[TheTexan]

And yes, I have compassion for this fellow Marine, and he'd still be alive to this day had he followed the officers orders.

These officers were responding to a medical emergency, and once on scene they were told they were not needed. Their response: break down the door. These are the actions of thugs, and following a thug's orders is no less likely to get you killed.

And IF I was one of the first responders on the scene, and he came at me with a machete or any type of knife, I would have shot him too. If you have no been in a situation where your life is in danger, you can't even comprehend what goes through an LEO's mind. Much like war, you have a split second to decide whether this guy is an enemy or whether or not he's peaceful.

This isn't a war zone. By treating it as such, it becomes one, and things like this happen. Save the combat mentality for war. Here, follow the rule of law. The rule of law says you must not forcefully enter a home without a warrant or probable cause, and these cops had neither.

Do any of you bother thinking that maybe this officer has a family? Do any of you know what it's like to be laying down on your back with bullet holes in you, not knowingwhether or not you'll ever see your family again? I have the unique perspective of having been wounded in war and the unique perspective of being an LEO. Why do you think I try to look at shit from both sides of the isle?

The duty of a peace officer is to serve and protect. Part of that means putting your life on the line, in the name of that duty. If a peace officer must enter a home without a warrant, he should do so with the understanding that he is doing so to serve & protect the HOMEOWNERS, and not HIMSELF.

 

[Sublyminal]

These officers were responding to a medical emergency, and once on scene they were told they were not needed. Their response: break down the door. These are the actions of thugs, and following a thug's orders is no less likely to get you killed.



This isn't a war zone. By treating it as such, it becomes one, and things like this happen. Save the combat mentality for war. Here, follow the rule of law. The rule of law says you must not forcefully enter a home without a warrant or probable cause, and these cops had neither.



The duty of a peace officer is to serve and protect. Part of that means putting your life on the line, in the name of that duty. If a peace officer must enter a home without a warrant, he should do so with the understanding that he is doing so to serve & protect the HOMEOWNERS, and not HIMSELF.

Look at what you wrote, to serve and PROTECT. Just because the old man says he's okay, does not mean he is. I have been to calls where the H.O has said that they were okay, we left and within thirty minutes we were called back because they just shot and killed themselves. You have to understand what it's like to have that happen. To know that if only you had taken a stricter approach you may have saved someone's life. But because you instead choose to believe them when they said they are alright, you write it off as an accidental calling.

These officers didn't know whether he had intended to cut his throat or what, he had a machete and another knife, I mean come on. Stop looking at this from a strictly victims point of view. Put yourself in both the officers shoes and again in the victims shoes. Then form your own conclusions. Again, dude.. You have no idea what it's like to get a call like that, knowing that you could have saved someone's life.

 

[Anti Federalist]

If you have no been in a situation where your life is in danger, you can't even comprehend what goes through an LEO's mind. Much like war, you have a split second to decide whether this guy is an enemy or whether or not he's peaceful.

And there you have it.

Right from a cop's mouth.

It is a war, we are the hostiles.

Save your live, and the lives of your loved ones:

DO NOT CALL COPS.

DO NOT TALK TO COPS.

DO NOT DIAL 911.

 

[Anti Federalist]

I am a LEO in the Virginia Beach Police Department, so it's not a small community not by a long shot.

The cop in this video is one of your co-workers.

He agrees.

Never Talk To Cops.