NY reached a deal?

I am on the NYhunting forum and there are plenty of people commenting on there that sound like they are not willing to counter.

Fuck a bunch of Fudds.

This is the recreational/commercial fishing argument all over again.

30 years the "sportsmen" were all for banning this, that and the other type of commercial fishing.

Only to find, thirty years later, that in many places around the country, having killed off any type of commercial fishing, the Fedcoats are now banning whole areas of ocean from any fishing.

The weeping, wailing and gnashing of teeth from the "sports" as this started happening over the last few years has been Schadenfreude music to my ears.
 
NYS could be considered a lost cause. Because of NYC, and its population number, and therefore its representative number, they actually control the whole state.

Right now, all of the states are a lost cause. The government gets bigger, decade after decade. But yes, NY is the least free state and along with CA, is likely to continue to go down faster than most other states.
 
I own guns from both these companies,other guns are manufactured in Conn. and Ma.
Why don't they move?It boggles the mind.

I'm in a Nazi state right now (illinois). But I can't leave due to school. It sucks man. It is quite literally depressing knowing that I'm basically stuck under some of the lowest scum who run the place.
 
Right now, all of the states are a lost cause. The government gets bigger, decade after decade. But yes, NY is the least free state and along with CA, is likely to continue to go down faster than most other states.

Massachusetts has NY beat. Under Romney they were the first state to have an assault weapons ban and also the first to employ the Romneycare individual mandate.
 
Massachusetts has NY beat. Under Romney they were the first state to have an assault weapons ban and also the first to employ the Romneycare individual mandate.

Actually that was North Korea -- oops, I mean California back in 1989 -- they passed the first AWB and set the narrative for the gun grabbers to pass the federal Clinton AWB in '94. I feel sorry for you guys up North East. I hope you all stand up against the tyrants.
 
hope you all stand up against the tyrants.

The last time there was a successful counter was in Allegany county when people got into the streets against having a nuclear dump there. It actually is a good example of American resistance. I recall hearing about the grandma holding a shotgun standing with others.

Will this happen again? If nothing does, I just don't know what to say yet.

http://nvdatabase.swarthmore.edu/content/allegany-county-resists-nuclear-dumping-1989-1990

Damn we need some inspiration. Here's the article.

The state of New York was required by federal law to have a nuclear waste dump by January 1, 1993. In 1988, a special siting committee formed to determine where to put the dump. The siting commission considered five sites in rural Allegany County, New York, as potential spots to put the nuclear dump. The people of Allegany County linked arms in several acts of civil disobedience to prevent the construction of a nuclear waste facility in their backyard.

Initially, opposition mounted with the formation of the Concerned Citizens of Allegany County (CCAC), who were committed to waging a political and legal battle against the commission. Then, the Allegany County Nonviolent Action Group (ACNAG) formed from concerned residents who determined that nonviolent resistance was the only way to stop the dump from being built.

On May 31, 1989, ACNAG completed its first action in Belmont outside of the county courthouse. The siting commission planned to do a "windshield tour" of potential sites and meet with local legislators. When the commission members arrived, protesters surrounded their car and linked arms, preventing them from exiting. A designated person placed wooden blocks behind the wheels, so that no one would get run over by the car. All of the demonstrators who were willing to be arrested wore orange bands on their arms, while other supporters wore yellow bands. The sheriff arrested 48 people wearing orange bands; all of them walked peacefully to the holding area and waited dutifully for their citations.

On August 1, Governor Mario Cuomo met with members of the CCAC at Alfred State College. Before he addressed the crowd, a woman with a child, representing ACNAG, walked past security officers onto the stage to deliver a declaration by ACNAG to resist the nuclear dump through civil disobedience. Although the CCAC worked tremendously hard to argue that the mandate to build the dump was unconstitutional, they had only marginal success in the political and legal realms. Meanwhile, ACNAG held more than 20 civil disobedience training sessions, many drawing over 100 people. People realized that the only way to save their land was through nonviolent action.

At the end of October, the CCAC held a community-wide rally called a “Night of Rage” at one of the proposed dumping sites. The event was decorated with anti-dumping signs, caricatured jack-o-lanterns of Governor Cuomo, and full-sized effigies of members of the commission. The B.A.N.D.I.T.S., a band formed against nuclear dumping, played a few songs, and a physics professor presented his paper on the horrific effects of low-level radiation. People addressed the crowd about the importance of keeping the resistance nonviolent in nature.

On December 13, 1989, members of ACNAG prevented a technical team sent by the commission from carrying out their tests. Activists gathered early in the morning at the three sites that the technical team could have chosen to work at that day. Once ACNAG leaders located the technical team, they sent everyone there from the other sites for support. ACNAG surrounded the technical team along with their sheriff escort. They promised to keep their arms linked until the technical team agreed to stop their work and leave the county.

The Sheriff defused the situation. When the landowner complained that the technical team hadn’t asked his permission to enter the land, the Sheriff, wanting to get everyone out of the freezing cold, cited the technical team for trespassing. ACNAG agreed to let the team leave the scene in the Sheriff’s custody.

Just over a month later, on January 16, the technical team tried to go to the Caneadea site, only to find the road blocked by old farm equipment and protesters. The team tried to enter via an alternate route, but they just encountered more roadblocks and protesters. The state police came in to help the team gain access to the site, but despite making eight arrests, they couldn’t get past the multiple roadblocks and the teams of demonstrators willing to be arrested.

Two days later, the technical team went to another site, West Almond. ACNAG, with the help of local farmers, set up roadblocks on all access roads. This time more than 50 troopers came prepared with paddy wagons to shuttle people to the jail. People both young and old from around the county lined up at the opportunity to be arrested. When officers asked the activists their names before arresting them, they responded, “My name is Allegany County.” For every one person who was arrested, there were two people ready to fill their spot. Eventually, in the late afternoon the troopers stopped making arrests, because they weren’t making any progress.


After learning of the technical teams failure to carry out its work, the chairman of the siting commission issued a press release that likened the people of Allegany to mushrooms being starved for information. People responded by writing letters to the editor, explaining how informed and determined they actually were.

Property owners banded together to deny the siting commission’s attempt to rent out office space. Instead, the commission sent a mobile office in a van to provide information on the dump to local residents. However, when they arrived, the van was blocked in by a manure spreader, plastered with posters, blasted with music, skunked, and rocked back and forth as people made it loud and clear that the van was not welcome.

A state Supreme Court judge issued an injunction that forbade anyone from preventing the siting commission from carrying out its work. This would force them to appear in state court, where they would likely receive a $1000 fine and possible incarceration up to six months. ACNAG revised its tactics to minimize arrests by utilizing more old farm equipment as roadblocks to continually delay the troopers. The activists started wearing paper masks to avoid being identified in photos as breaking the injunction. They would force the troopers to arrest grandparents, while the rest of the demonstrators retreated to the next roadblock. ACNAG even enlisted the help of horses to act as a last line of defense.

On April 5, the siting commission came in full force to the Caneadea site with the new injunction in hand. ACNAG was ready to confront them with hundreds of protesters coming out to stand in the way. Six grandparents who chained themselves to the bridge positioned themselves in front of several pieces of farm equipment and masked supporters standing in silence. The state troopers cut the chains, arrested the grandparents, and walked around the equipment and snow barricades that people had constructed. Determined to gain access to the site, the troopers arrested anyone in their way. However, before the troopers got to the angry crowd of 300 people, they encountered a band of masked horsemen. The troopers retreated after attempting to dismount the riders, only to have their feet stomped on by the horses. They were still over a mile away from the site.

The last triumph over the troopers at Caneadea marked victory for Allegany County. Shortly afterward, Governor Cuomo ordered the siting commission to discontinue its attempts at testing in Allegany County. The activists fight ultimately was what stopped the nuclear dump from being built at all. Their story served as inspiration to many similar nonviolent actions against nuclear dumping across the nation.
 
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Actually that was North Korea -- oops, I mean California back in 1989 -- they passed the first AWB and set the narrative for the gun grabbers to pass the federal Clinton AWB in '94. I feel sorry for you guys up North East. I hope you all stand up against the tyrants.

The Ron Paul vs Romney pdf fliers linked here in these forums have it as Romney signing the first ban. Did CA have enough votes to get it through without the governor signing it and Romney was the first governor to sign it or does it have something to do with his being called a "permanent ban"?
 
I'm in a Nazi state right now (illinois). But I can't leave due to school. It sucks man. It is quite literally depressing knowing that I'm basically stuck under some of the lowest scum who run the place.

I'm a long-time subscriber to Guns&Ammo magazine,a few years ago they had the sense to finally leave Cali...only to move to Illinois. :confused:
Boggles the mind.
 
Massachusetts has NY beat. Under Romney they were the first state to have an assault weapons ban and also the first to employ the Romneycare individual mandate.

For guns, sure. Overall, NY is less free than MA. And NYC, especially, is less free.
 
The Ron Paul vs Romney pdf fliers linked here in these forums have it as Romney signing the first ban. Did CA have enough votes to get it through without the governor signing it and Romney was the first governor to sign it or does it have something to do with his being called a "permanent ban"?

I'm not sure what the vote count was, but here is the wiki page on it:

Roberti-Roos Assault Weapons Control Act of 1989
 
Vote is confirmed for MIDNIGHT EST.
 
“The people of this state are crying out for help on gun violence. We don’t need another tragedy,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday night. “I think this is one of the greatest problems facing our state. If this proposal is enacted it is one of the most comprehensive approaches to the problem.”

You do realize that this is a person that is trying to get a lot of people killed right? Let's say your wife goes out and gets raped because she is disarmed in New York. Ooops! Gov. Cuomo doesn't care, so long as you are an unarmed slave.
 
George Deukmejian signed it, so he would be the first. Can't remember why the PDF's around here had Romney being the first governor.

Yes George Deukmenijan. He was a RINO POS, praised by Frankenstein and all of the rest of the gun grabbers just because someone shot up a school back in '89 with an AK series rifle. Rahm Emanuel was right: Never let a good crisis go to waste.
 
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“The people of this state are crying out for help on gun violence. We don’t need another tragedy,” Gov. Andrew Cuomo said Monday night. “I think this is one of the greatest problems facing our state. If this proposal is enacted it is one of the most comprehensive approaches to the problem.”

You do realize that this is a person that is trying to get a lot of people killed right? Let's say your wife goes out and gets raped because she is disarmed in New York. Ooops! Gov. Cuomo doesn't care, so long as you are an unarmed slave.

5 deaths by rifle last year in New York State. It's a power grab dressed up as a safety issue.
 
5 deaths by rifle last year in New York State. It's a power grab dressed up as a safety issue.

"But Governor Cuomo, won't innocent people be killed since the gangbangers don't obey the laws you are going to be disarming people or making it so they can't carry around larger mags incase they don't know exactly where they are shooting if someone breaks into their house?"

Gov Cuomo: "haha, I don't care. I'm running for President in 2016, I couldn't care less if you get raped or killed or if your whole family burns! I love the power I have! Give me more of your money for the welfare slobs! Now let me take your right to self defense away!!!! HAHAHAHAHA!!!!"
 
Jesus Christ. 7 bullets? This is literally the most retarded fucking thing I've heard in my entire life. If the same morons weren't currently running my state I wouldn't have been going to the small gun shops to stock up on mags for my S&W 659 which holds 15.

Un-fucking-believable.
 
THIS IS BOLD!!!!:

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns
 
Our Fort Sumter moment in roughly about an hour and a half. Granted, New York is filled with stooges primarily near NYC, but then again there are some pockets where I wouldn't want to piss anyone off.
 
THIS IS BOLD!!!!:

* ban on pre 1994 mags with cap of 11 or more
* ban on mags over 7 rounds
* background checks on all ammo purchases
* mental health reporting which is to be checked against the (new??) gun registry database
* 1 feature test for AW. Bushmaster AR banned by name
* 10 round mags to be grandfathered in but may only be loaded with 7 rounds (read elsewhere this will be a misdemeanor)
* all sales of ammo from registered ammo dealers to be reported to local police
* background check on all ammo purcahses
* ban of direct internet ammo purchases
* ammo purchases to go through FFL
* five year renewable registration for AW and handguns

With new guns added to the AW list as more state funds are needed.
 
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