NY reached a deal?

[shane77m]

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...s-Ban-Magazines-Limit-Cuomo-NY-186794151.html

People familiar with the internal negotiations say Gov. Andrew Cuomo and legislative leaders have a tentative deal to enact the nation's first gun control measure following the Newtown, Conn., school shooting.


The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons and limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, rather than the current 10. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law that allows for civil confinement of people determined to be a threat to others.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal struck over the weekend will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and Assembly.

If the deal survives as expected, a bill could be presented this week.

My question is who determines who is a threat and what are the criteria? Threats of violence in a Youtube video, political affiliation, religious affiliation, being prescribed medication for mental illness?

Are people going to give up their "illegal" firearms?

There needs to be a nationwide campaign to support the people of New York in not complying.

 

[kathy88]

This is so very bad.

 

[Kotin]

New York is one of those states where I probably will never be surprised by what they do..

 

[MoneyWhereMyMouthIs2]

More reasons to stay out of NY, I suppose. Their existing laws keep me from visiting anyway.

 

[BnXmkpfrME]

and tell me why 10- to 7 bullets matters in the fight against crime?

This does matter to the fight against the 2nd Amendment freedom, they are continuing to narrow it to nothing.

If this passes then Kimber and Henry gun companies need to move and take their jobs with them.

 

[roho76]

My question is who determines who is a threat and what are the criteria? Threats of violence in a Youtube video, political affiliation, religious affiliation, being prescribed medication for mental illness?

I'm sure it's something like: If you're a gun owner, then you are a threat to others and subject to civil confinement. This is where they round up gun owners and throw them in jail. For the children, of course.

 

[TonySutton]

I feel threatened by everyone who talks of taking my guns away. Please lock those people up so I will feel safe again.

 

[Lucille]

pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law that allows for civil confinement of people determined to be a threat to others.

Not good.

At least as alarming as the finger pointing have been the particular solutions most commentators have immediately gravitated toward. Progressives immediately began accusing conservatives of cutting mental health funding, and conservatives immediately fired back that civil libertarians have eroded the capacity of government to involuntarily commit those suspected of mental illness. This is, I think, perhaps the most disturbing reaction in the long run. Great strides have been made in the last half century to roll back the totalitarianism of mandatory psychiatric commitment. For much of modern history, hundreds of thousands were denied basic human rights due to their unusual behavior, most of it peaceful in itself. Lobotomies and sterilization were common, as were locking people into hellish psychiatric gulags where they were repeatedly medicated against their will, stripped of any sanity they previously had. The most heroic libertarian in recent years may have been the recently departed Thomas Szasz, who stood against mainstream psychiatry’s unholy alliance with the state, correctly pointing out that the system of mandatory treatment was as evil and authoritarian as anything we might find in the prison system or welfare state.

 

[TomtheTinker]

I feel like im being buried alive

 

[ClydeCoulter]

From Lucille's post:
"capacity of government to involuntarily commit those suspected of mental illness"

Wow

 

[tod evans]

From Lucille's post:
"capacity of government to involuntarily commit those suspected of mental illness"

Wow

Run, fast and far!

 

[frodus24]

^^^^Well, consider me fucked! I talk to myself.....so would I be a suspect of mental illness?

 

[tod evans]

^^^^Well, consider me fucked! I talk to myself.....

I answer....:o

 

[Philhelm]

The next step will be for the children of firearm owners to be seized by CPS. Obviously firearm owners have an unsafe household and are mentally unbalanced. They're not saying you can't have guns; you just can't have guns and children.

 

[shane77m]

The next step will be for the children of firearm owners to be seized by CPS. Obviously firearm owners have an unsafe household and are mentally unbalanced. They're not saying you can't have guns; you just can't have guns and children.

That would be a bad day for the officials that come to seize children. I would not compromise on that issue.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

The next step will be for the children of firearm owners to be seized by CPS. Obviously firearm owners have an unsafe household and are mentally unbalanced. They're not saying you can't have guns; you just can't have guns and children.

This isn't the next step. Been there.

-t

 

[FSP-Rebel]

While I feel for the New Yorkers amongst us, at least you still have this song going for ya:

 

[ZENemy]

This isn't the next step. Been there.

-t

It IS the next step.

CPS is taking kids from families that feed their kids raw milk, just WAIT till to see what they come up with for gun owners.

 

[tangent4ronpaul]

I told you it's the current step. I had a roommate who's kid was snatched by CPS right after birth and one of the reasons for not giving her custody in family court is that she lived with me and our idiot, loud mouthed LIBERAL lawyer blearted out that I owned guns. They considered this an inappropriate atmosphere to raise a child in.

-t

 

[seyferjm]

I just read on HuffingtonCompost that this set to pass? Can anyone confirm?