November 5th Money Bomb!

Oh boo-freaking-hoo....

I've been offering my opinion and advice on this moneybomb and Rand's lackluster campaign for YEARS. I said before and I'll say it again. There is a REASON people aren't excited for Rand. There is a REASON people aren't wearing "RAND PAUL CURED MY APATHY" T-shirts. There is a REASON for all of it. Many here on RPF have been arguing FOR the revolution that was started in 2007.

I donated to this effort and I let others know about it. But did I do door to door? Did I tirelessly work to convince my friends, family, and co-workers that Rand is the answer? Did I spend countless hours campaigning for Rand in my area? NO.... but I did all this in 2007-2012. I did that THEN because I was passionate about what we were fighting for. I don't worship at the alter of Ron Paul, but his message was VERY different than Rand's, and his approach (dare I say disdain?) for politics is VERY different than Rand's. No matter how hard I try, I just can not get fired up for Rand Paul... largely because of his actions, which have been pointed out ad nauseum. Now I know, I know... this is the "Ra-Ra-Rand Can Do No Wrong Echo Chamber" and "Thou Shalt Not Criticize" but whatever. Truth is truth.

I hope Rand changes his methods and can turn this thing around, but this 'moneybomb' (firecracker?) is a DIRECT result of the grassroots support he has managed to squander.

// Rant //

The only mistake Rand made was in assuming (as many of us did) that members of the liberty movement would be smart enough to understand what he was trying to do: to recognize him as one of their own, despite his efforts to create a more moderate persona. Turns out, that was wrong. A large fraction of the liberty movement is just as focused on trivia and superficiality as the average GOPer or Dem.
 
Things are simply different now.. Rand raised over 200k a few weeks ago by promoting it as a "Iowa ad Blitz". Money is being raised differently right now. Just because we didn't raise 1 million today doesn't mean Rand's grassroot support is like 10 percent of Ron's 2012 support. This is a different world now. I commend anyone helping with this money bomb. EVERY dollar counts. I love seeing this style of support as well.

People do need to wake the hell up on the "you don't see door knocking, sign waving, stuff anymore"... You obviously have no idea what Students for Rand are doing. You have no idea that they are dorm canvassing DAILY. You have no idea that they made over 40,000 calls to Iowa in one day(Bush is touting that he has had 70,000 calls to iowa this whole election). You have no idea that they have well over 3000 college students that are committed to caucusing in Iowa already. Are you aware that they have started an initative to enlist students to become delegates in an official manner?

No offense to this forum, but the grassroots aren't on websites now... DailyPaul, Ron Paul Forums, etc. The grassroots are on Twitter, FB, etc. Please follow this twitter feed https://twitter.com/randstudents.

Please like this facebook group of one chapter in Kentucky that will inspire you DAILY https://www.facebook.com/EKURandPaul/?fref=ts

I love this site and brainstorming here, but seriously.. This site isn't heart of the grassroots. If you think this site encompasses the grassroots, I can see why you are all upset.

P.S. the money bomb raised over 1k while I typed this. Make phone calls, donate when you can, keep doing these grassroots money bombs. Iowa is in Feb. We have a great chance to win there. DON'T EVER LOSE SIGHT OF THE GOAL
 
I never expected to see a repeat of what happened in 2007, but I think I've actually underestimated just how idiotic a sizable amount of the the liberty movement would become. This whole notion of carrying a grudge over the whole Romney and McConnell endorsements and throwing support behind people like Sanders and Trump is truly stupid.

On-topic: I threw in $100 earlier today, I'll probably throw another $100 in this evening before I turn in. Unlike some people, supporting liberty isn't just about some stupid genitalia-measuring contest for me, nor is that the case for those who have put up here. Whether we break $1 million today or not, I'm proud of what everyone is doing here.
 
The only mistake Rand made was in assuming (as many of us did) that members of the liberty movement would be smart enough to understand what he was trying to do: to recognize him as one of their own, despite his efforts to create a more moderate persona. Turns out, that was wrong. A large fraction of the liberty movement is just as focused on trivia and superficiality as the average GOPer or Dem.

The problem was it wasn't just people with the libertarian ideology that flocked to Ron. I'm willing to bet a huge chunk of Sanders' supporters were Ron supporters in the past. Ron was the only option if you were angry at the incompetence of governments and crony capitalism. This time around TPTB made sure to have a candidate to cover all fronts. Sanders is the anti-corporations candidate. Trump is the major "anti-establishment". Cruz is pretending to be the second coming of Ron. When Ron was running, there was nobody like these people running. We all know that Rand is the real candidate, but look at it from the perspective of the ignorant. They turn on the TV and 7 different people are saying "MSM is bogus" "we need to shrink government" "Washington is corrupt and they are the reason we're in this mess" "the tax code needs to be changed" Who do you choose when everyone sounds the same? Most likely the person you see doing the best in the polls. "If they're all the same, I may as well just pick the winning one". Luckily those people are usually too lazy to go bother voting, at least in the caucus states.
 
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The problem was it wasn't just people with the libertarian ideology that flocked to Ron. I'm willing to bet a huge chunk of Sanders' supporters were Ron supporters in the past. Ron was the only option if you were angry at the incompetence of governments and crony capitalism. This time around TPTB made sure to have a candidate to cover all fronts. Sanders is the anti-corporations candidate. Trump is the major "anti-establishment". Cruz is pretending to be the second coming of Ron. When Ron was running, there was nobody like these people running. We all know that Rand is the real candidate, but look at it from the perspective of the ignorant. They turn on the TV and 7 different people are saying "MSM is bogus" "we need to shrink government" "Washington is corrupt and they are the reason we're in this mess" "the tax code needs to be changed" Who do you choose when everyone sounds the same? Most likely the person you see doing the best in the polls. "If they're all the same, I may as well just pick the winning one".

Indeed

Some of us also overestimated the libertarian-ness of the Ron Paul movement.

Many of them were singe-issue voters (anti-war leftists, anti-bank conspiracy types, etc) or just generally anti-establishment folks rather than libertarians.
 
Indeed

Some of us also overestimated the libertarian-ness of the Ron Paul movement.

Many of them were singe-issue voters (anti-war leftists, anti-bank conspiracy types, etc) or just generally anti-establishment folks rather than libertarians.

Precisely. On positive note, it seems more and more liberty-oriented candidates are emerging throughout the country. While they may not be the majority, they are irate :D
 
Precisely. On positive note, it seems more and more liberty-oriented candidates are emerging throughout the country. While they may not be the majority, they are irate :D

For sure, despite some disappointments, I'm pretty optimistic overall.

I mean, 10 years ago, who would've thought we'd have a libertarian in the US Senate?
 
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You can see the start of the MB at "Thu 05". Donations between 12AM and 6AM are rare, especially on a weeknight. The biggest surge should come 7PM to 11PM.
 
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Even if Rand approached it now the same way Ron did, it wouldn't work as well as it did then. Ron was the sole voice in talking about liberty and government overreach. Now everyone is saying the same thing in different ways so his message is diluted.







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Absolutely. Ron very clearly won the battle of rhetoric and ideas. Whether or not that ever translates into national votes, particularly for the highest office, is one thing but we should never lose site of the fact that we changed the entire tone of the Republican party. We've forced candidates to at least pay lipservice to our ideas, and I think that what is happening now, in no small part due to Rand too, is that anyone who runs on our rhetoric and doesn't back it up with clear actions will be discarded.

It would be amazing to see Rand win, but we can't forget that we're in this for life. We aren't in this for one election, or one candidate, or one last name.
 
BTW, part of the reason MBs are not like they used to be is because, especially the last 2, the campaign decided to have their own on a different date with little or 0 notice. I'll eventually do another long-term plot to see what it looks like.
 
Not for me, it's not. On a fresh browser session if I type in randpaul.com I get the 100 days screen first. If I close the tab and reopen it the ticker page comes up first. I browse privately so there must be a cookie being passed that controls which page shows up first that is being deleted by my browser.

Hmm, yeah that must be it.

When I type in RandPaul.com it comes up straight to the homepage for me, with the ticker at the top.

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I remember the page you're talking about though.

I think it was just a splash page that comes up on top of the main homepage, so there should be an X to close it at the top right?
 
Just got an email from the campaign promoting the money bomb:

Remember, remember the 5th of November."

If you've ever seen the movie V for Vendetta, you know that's the central tagline used by the revolutionaries who are fighting their oppressive government.

Today, my grassroots supporters all over the country are throwing a massive "5th of November" Money Bomb for my campaign.

Will you join in with your most generous contribution of $20.16 or more TODAY?

Will you help me give the national media and political establishment of BOTH parties something to remember this 5th of November?

Look to Washington, D.C. today, and it's not hard to see why so many Americans are angry.

We vote for politicians who promise to secure our borders and get nothing.

We vote for politicians who promise to "fight President Obama" and get more smoky backroom deals.

We vote for politicians who promise to undo ObamaCare, while voting to keep this train wreck rambling on.

BOTH parties are to blame.

BOTH parties seem more intent on spending us into oblivion and spying on our every move than keeping their campaign promises.

Kathleen, it's time the American people took their country back from the Washington Machine.

That means kicking out the career politicians by imposing term limits. It means forcing Congress to read the bills they RAM into law.

It means cutting taxes to ensure we whittle Washington, D.C. down to size.

It means enforcing the Bill of Rights and telling BOTH parties "hands off our liberties!"

New polls show my campaign is positioned in the top third of the Republican field.

My ground game is unmatched, and energy is sky-high.

Will you help me capitalize on my momentum?

Will you help me send a LOUD-AND-CLEAR message that resonates from coast-to-coast that we are willing to do whatever it takes to finally get our out-of-control federal government off our backs!

Will you contribute $20.16 or more today to help me ensure the Washington Machine has something to remember this November 5th?
 
You can see the start of the MB at "Thu 05". Donations between 12AM and 6AM are rare, especially on a weeknight. The biggest surge should come 7PM to 11PM.

Thank you, I was hoping that you were able to track that.

Yeah, just like with the ones before the donations picked up later in the day.

Just got an email from the campaign promoting the money bomb:

Yes, I fist pumped when I saw the subject "Remember, Remember..." :toady:

They also just posted about it for the first time on Facebook like 20 minutes ago with a video of Rand's debate response about the Fed:

https://Facebook.com/RandPaul/videos/10153437692566107/
 
Not for me, it's not. On a fresh browser session if I type in randpaul.com I get the 100 days screen first. If I close the tab and reopen it the ticker page comes up first. I browse privately so there must be a cookie being passed that controls which page shows up first that is being deleted by my browser.

I think it was just a splash page that comes up on top of the main homepage, so there should be an X to close it at the top right?

LOL, nevermind, they changed it so now the ticker is right on the front of the splash page.

Thank you and good work to whoever did that. ;)
 
just got an email to remember the 5th of november!!!

and my sister told me she got a call from rand to her home number....

i dont care in nobodys excited but us.....

Donation amount: $201.60
Transaction date/time: 11/06/2015
Transaction ID: 11S815140C2214529
 
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