Note about July 4th moneybomb

[SnappleLlama]

If anyone here knows Trevor, perhaps it would be a good idea for him to come over here and clear up the potential misunderstanding.

I don't know...this could get ugly....

 

[mport1]

I don't see what the big deal is about BTM being for profit. That is capitalism people, what we all say we support. Hopefully it will give him more incentive to create good projects. If he doesn't perform well, we can just pull our money. If I'm not mistaken, I think he is also doing this full time or most of the time so I'm he needs some money for his efforts.

However, I do think there are much better areas to put money into other than BTM like the Mises Institute, Free Talk Live, and the Free State Project.

 

[Tarzan]

I think he is Tarzan

Correction : He is not Tarzan....thanks, guys...my bad. Trevor=Sword of Shannarah

What did I ever do to you... Tarzan is Charles Manley... not Trevor Lyman.

To make it more pointedly clear... Tarzan did not (and does not) support BTM or the stock offering methodology they were considering for launching BTM. Or, for any non-existent product, service or company... just bad business and bad investing... the purpose of an IPO is quite different... IMHO.

But, if BTM can get donations from sources for these congressional candidates outside the "normal" venues (such as this forum) more power to them. We have very few candidates worthy of the office and even fewer with sufficient funds to run a winning campaign.

If BTM can come up with a successful fund raising effort... more power to them. And, they HAVE to charge something to keep it legal. They are providing a service and MUST keep it legal... they are entitled to charging for their services.

If you can give directly to a campaign... please do so and cut out the middle man. If BTM can successfully raise funds for these candidates... great!

But... Tarzan is sure as hell not Trevor.

 

[pacelli]

Didn't realize it is a for-profit moneybomb, appreciate the info. Gives me, personally, a reason to eliminate another source of spam email. Free market at work. Individual responsibility.

 

[brandon]

I don't see what the big deal is about BTM being for profit. That is capitalism people, what we all say we support.

The big deal is that similar "services" are provided for free. Of course we support capitalilsm, and we are helping inform "consumers" about the companies they are dealing with. We are not saying that the government should stop this type of business from existing.

 

[hillertexas]

What did I ever do to you... Tarzan is Charles Manley... not Trevor Lyman.

To make it more pointedly clear... Tarzan did not (and does not) support BTM or the stock offering methodology they were considering for launching BTM. Or, for any non-existent product, service or company... just bad business and bad investing... the purpose of an IPO is quite different... IMHO.

But, if BTM can get donations from sources for these congressional candidates outside the "normal" venues (such as this forum) more power to them. We have very few candidates worthy of the office and even fewer with sufficient funds to run a winning campaign.

If BTM can come up with a successful fund raising effort... more power to them. And, they HAVE to charge something to keep it legal. They are providing a service and MUST keep it legal... they are entitled to charging for their services.

If you can give directly to a campaign... please do so and cut out the middle man. If BTM can successfully raise funds for these candidates... great!

But... Tarzan is sure as hell not Trevor.

sorry, Charles.

 

[mport1]

What did I ever do to you... Tarzan is Charles Manley... not Trevor Lyman.

To make it more pointedly clear... Tarzan did not (and does not) support BTM or the stock offering methodology they were considering for launching BTM. Or, for any non-existent product, service or company... just bad business and bad investing... the purpose of an IPO is quite different... IMHO.

But, if BTM can get donations from sources for these congressional candidates outside the "normal" venues (such as this forum) more power to them. We have very few candidates worthy of the office and even fewer with sufficient funds to run a winning campaign.

If BTM can come up with a successful fund raising effort... more power to them. And, they HAVE to charge something to keep it legal. They are providing a service and MUST keep it legal... they are entitled to charging for their services.

If you can give directly to a campaign... please do so and cut out the middle man. If BTM can successfully raise funds for these candidates... great!

But... Tarzan is sure as hell not Trevor.

Hey Tarzan. Completely unrelated, but you don't accept PMs so I wanted to get in touch with you. I really liked the graphics you had posted in the "Brainstorming" thread for the CFL and saw that the CFL is accepting graphics if you email them to them. They aren't showing up anymore so I don't know how to get to them - http://www.campaignforliberty.com/community/ Please let me know if you saw this message.

 

[Tarzan]

sorry, Charles.

no worries...

Just a note about Trevor... I know some folks have issues with some of his ventures. I, for example, will not be supporting BTM.

But, I did work with Trevor on another project... and know that he made a LOT of personal sacrifices (including financial) on behalf of this movement. What were/are his motives... I have no idea and cannot speak to that question.

But... I do know that he put himself out there both financially, personally and professionally during the early/mid stages of this movement. In my book, that earned him a lot of points.

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

Trevor Lyman has worked very hard coming up with "outside the box" ways of promoting and perpetuating the revolution. Ron Paul takes an annual salary for being a U.S. Representative, and no one here says things like "what an asshat that guy has turned into"

The fact that he takes a small portion as a promoting agent for all these candidates should be the last thing on our minds. Just imagine what a promotions company or political attorney or firm would have charged our candidates and then step back and thank Trevor for finding such a cost effective method for the candidates to raise funds.

Please donate on the 4th, as some of the candidates have no other way of getting a jump start to their campaigns... But one thing is for sure... We must put forth every effort to make sure these campaigns succeed.

http://www.freedomslate08.com

 

[Jamsie 567]

Trevor Lyman has devoted himself to this movement in a positive way. I wonder how these people who insult his credibility would handle being thrown in the lime light. If you guys had the opportunity to talk to Trevor. You would know there is nothing he could of done differently and handled this all the right way. I am glad he is still active in the movement after he has been attacked by a lot of inmature people. I am 100% behind you Trevor keep fighting!

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

Trevor Lyman has worked very hard coming up with "outside the box" ways of promoting and perpetuating the revolution. Ron Paul takes an annual salary for being a U.S. Representative, and no one here says things like "what an asshat that guy has turned into"

The fact that he takes a small portion as a promoting agent for all these candidates should be the last thing on our minds. Just imagine what a promotions company or political attorney or firm would have charged our candidates and then step back and thank Trevor for finding such a cost effective method for the candidates to raise funds.

Please donate on the 4th, as some of the candidates have no other way of getting a jump start to their campaigns... But one thing is for sure... We must put forth every effort to make sure these campaigns succeed.

http://www.freedomslate08.com

after investigating..people whopromote candidates and causes take up to 90% for services. Thanks Trevor for the alternative!

 

[Jeremy]

after investigating..people whopromote candidates and causes take up to 90% for services. Thanks Trevor for the alternative!

I and everyone else are taking 0% from the donations of the moneybomb we are helping with.

 

[SnappleLlama]

I think some people just want Trevor to post here and explain why he's taking 10%....at least, I think that's what's being asked for...

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

I and everyone else are taking 0% from the donations of the moneybomb we are helping with.

Are you organizing a moneybomb for 25 candidates on the same day?

Do you have a full time job? This is what Trevor does FULL TIME. A worker is worthy of his wages, and were he to take 0% it would not be legal for him to organize this event.

 

[Jeremy]

I'm not necessarily saying it's wrong to take 10% for BTM. I just think he should have told people and made it clear that it isn't a traditional moneybomb.

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

Do you think that your taking the initiative to inform the people of that fact is helpful to the candidates involved? These candidates (myself included) might just sink or swim depending on the success of this event.

There are many of us with a true message and a great opportunity to win but we lack the proper funding.

I think it might be good for you to encourage people to donate on July 4th to these candidates in spite of this minor issue of 10% going to BTM.

This effort has the potential to do so much good for the movement and for those who are working full time to continue it. These candidates need all the help they can get.

Please consider endorsing this moneybomb and helping everyone involved.

Our nation's future depends on the success of this revolution and its pioneers.

 

[Jeremy]

Do you think that your taking the initiative to inform the people of that fact is helpful to the candidates involved? These candidates (myself included) might just sink or swim depending on the success of this event.

There are many of us with a true message and a great opportunity to win but we lack the proper funding.

I think it might be good for you to encourage people to donate on July 4th to these candidates in spite of this minor issue of 10% going to BTM.

This effort has the potential to do so much good for the movement and for those who are working full time to continue it. These candidates need all the help they can get.

Please consider endorsing this moneybomb and helping everyone involved.

Our nation's future depends on the success of this revolution and its pioneers.

thats why in my post i said if you dont want 10% going to BTM, just donate the day after

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

thats why in my post i said if you dont want 10% going to BTM, just donate the day after

Certainly. However, this is already a coordinated event, and the lack of coordination, or telling people not to donate on the 4th could keep quite a few people from donating at all.

I'll be completely honest with you, my campaign needs funds and I would appreciate your support in this matter. Mr. Lawson is a respectable individual, and deserves all the support he can get, but he's not the only candidate running with a chance to win.

Please don't detract from the other candidates and their attempts to raise funds for this cause.

Please publicly support this moneybomb. It's success is very important to the revolution. If we all work together, we can get national attention on this one.

Please join me and the rest of the candidates. This is not a competition between RP candidates to see who makes more in funds. This is a collaborative effort to restore our Constitution.

 

[brandon]

Are you organizing a moneybomb for 25 candidates on the same day?

Do you have a full time job? This is what Trevor does FULL TIME. A worker is worthy of his wages, and were he to take 0% it would not be legal for him to organize this event.

I don't see how he could do it full time. All he has to do is make an extremely simple webpage, and then send out emails to the list that he (unethically) has once in a while.

If the money bomb brings in $100,000 he gets $10,000. Do you really think doing what I mentioned above is worth $10,000? If so, go right ahead and donate.

 

[David A. Gay Sr.]

I don't see how he could do it full time. All he has to do is make an extremely simple webpage, and then send out emails to the list that he (unethically) has once in a while.

If the money bomb brings in $100,000 he gets $10,000. Do you really think doing what I mentioned above is worth $10,000? If so, go right ahead and donate.

Actually, there's quite a bit of promotion and preparation that's going into this. I'm not donating myself; I'm one of the candidates.

Like I said, when a promotions agency or a political firm does a fundraiser, they've been known to take more than half.

Trevor is providing a service to us at a very cost effective price.

Many of us are looking forward to the success of this event as crucial to the next steps in our campaigns.

I think we can all agree that these campaigns are important, and some measure of victory is crucial to our movement. Please support this moneybomb, we can't win this without a collaborative effort