North Dakota currently voting for delegates

[carterm]

Was this before or after Romney's attorneys wanted a recount? Or was the tweet mistaken?

it's not a tweet, it's an article.

 

[maxoutco]

Were we a minority there? Lack of understanding for Robert's rules? What really happen?

 

[sailingaway]

it's not a tweet, it's an article.

I meant the part about wanting a recount

 

[Titus]

The people did not know who to vote for, so the votes went scattered. Romney's people knew who to vote for is my bet. FYI, in the future, we should have prepared lists in each scenario. One if Santorum flips, one if Gingrich flips and one if we are alone.

 

[mommaliberty]

my hubby used to be involved pretty good in the ND GOP. He observed a convention before he was 18 and was a delegate the next Convention. He doesn't recall it being so crooked then. But about 12 years ago he was helping one of the GOP candidates with their marketing campaign and got to witness all the dirty shenanigans of the mike being turned off etc. The last convention was pretty rotten too.

Most of the names on that list from the blog are not recognized to him as old-timer GOP folk. Some of them are. He does know Rick Berg personally, but doesn't think he could sway him to Ron Paul. He's a pretty good establishment guy - and Hoeven used to be a Dem. He does know him a little bit... as an aquantaince more or less. He worked with Joe Miller and Jim Kasper and said Rebecca Strege sounded familiar. The rest he didn't know.

 

[Ivash]

so that would mean the initial count went against them?

Unfortunately they always seem to pick up those extra votes on recounts. I'm remembering two counties that were 'Ron's' in Iowa by a handful of votes on recount both went to Romney, just as 'on Recount' the state went to Romney over Santorum.

On the other hand, where the party likes Santorum (Missouri) the dirty tricks were on his behalf.

This two party system has to go if we can't make it over.

You're remembering things incorrectly. Romney won Iowa on the initial vote, but during the recount Santorum ended up winning.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Aww, man! So we really had only 300-some out of well over 1000*? Bummer. Well, ND is super-spread-out. It's a long drive. What was the registration fee? Could someone from ND tell us? Let's say it was $200, though. If you had to drive 4 hours there, 4 hours back, pay for gas, pay for a hotel, essentially give up a whole weekend for this thing, and pay an additional $200 for the privilege, would you think twice? I'll bet a lot of our people got elected to be delegates, but then thought twice.

Thanks to all the North Dakota patriots who did go. Come weigh in here when you get the chance. Tell us some stories. We love stories. Drop some video.

*Scratch that: 1,940 (If all who registered came)

The amount of delegates expected in 2012 (1,940) represents a full 71% increase on the last Presidential election year, 2008, during which 1,126 delegates participated. It is also a 26% increase on the numbers seen in 2010 (1,538).

http://www.northdakotagop.org/2012/03/near-record-turnout-expected-for-state-convention/

 

[opinionatedfool]

http://ndpolitics.areavoices.com/?p=93509

DANG IT!!!

 

[opinionatedfool]

The people did not know who to vote for, so the votes went scattered. Romney's people knew who to vote for is my bet. FYI, in the future, we should have prepared lists in each scenario. One if Santorum flips, one if Gingrich flips and one if we are alone.

AMEN. Let's make sure this is spread around. This really sucks. With some organization we could have had better results. This ruins my night.

 

[sailingaway]

You're remembering things incorrectly. Romney won Iowa on the initial vote, but during the recount Santorum ended up winning.

No, initially Santorum won but in that same night it flipped and twenty votes that didn't exist were counted for Romney. But one of OUR guys had marked the count and put it on facebook when he left and his not the recount accounted for the number of people there, if the proRomney count were right it was 20 more people than had checked in. So ULTIMATELY after a fight it switched to Santa, but that night in the party's hands it flipped to Romney.

 

[sailingaway]

AMEN. Let's make sure this is spread around. This really sucks. With some organization we could have had better results. This ruins my night.

that is just a guess, so I would wait to see what happened.

 

[helmuth_hubener]

Right. Wait for reports before jumping to conclusions.

 

[sailingaway]

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Corrupt GOP election officials arrested for infringing on democracy!... sadly #aprilfools

 

[francisco]

The people did not know who to vote for, so the votes went scattered. Romney's people knew who to vote for is my bet. FYI, in the future, we should have prepared lists in each scenario. One if Santorum flips, one if Gingrich flips and one if we are alone.

This reminds me of something I saw in another states' thread: importance of having a printer and computer inside the caucus (and lots of paper!) to print up slates to distribute. I don't want to second-guess the participants & RP leaders, but I can't help but think that having such might have improved the result. This is bumming me out, much as the original caucus night in ND did. I did a lot of calling of identified RP supporters as part of the "Grassroots for Liberty" group and based on that was surprised that we didn't win the straw poll. There seemed to be a lot of enthusasm on the ground and Ron made an appearance at the Fargo pooled caucus site, to a huge crowd.

 

[sailingaway]

This reminds me of something I saw in another states' thread: importance of having a printer and computer inside the caucus (and lots of paper!) to print up slates to distribute. I don't want to second-guess the participants & RP leaders, but I can't help but think that having such might have improved the result. This is bumming me out, much as the original caucus night in ND did. I did a lot of calling of identified RP supporters as part of the "Grassroots for Liberty" group and based on that was surprised that we didn't win the straw poll. There seemed to be a lot of enthusasm on the ground and Ron made an appearance at the Fargo pooled caucus site, to a huge crowd.

My understanding is they wanted to print a list and the Romney folks called a vote and declared it voted down but people there didn't get a physical count.

 

[francisco]

Again--not to second guess--maybe give every RP supporter a prioritized list of delegates (no more than number to fill the slate) as they enter the caucus, as an emergency backup if TPTB prohibit distribution of other slates after proceedings convene.

 

[sailingaway]

Again--not to second guess--maybe give every RP supporter a prioritized list of delegates (no more than number to fill the slate) as they enter the caucus, as an emergency backup if TPTB prohibit distribution of other slates after proceedings convene.

I agree that would be a good back up to have.

 

[jdcole]

My understanding is they wanted to print a list and the Romney folks called a vote and declared it voted down but people there didn't get a physical count.

No, he meant that the Romney had a slate of folks they voted for, but those folks happened to be the ballot folks. Since delegates were allowed to nominate from the floor and be written in, we should have had a printer on hand so that we could quick make a slate for all of our supporters to work off of, rather than having to coordinate via word-of-mouth and figure out a slate on the floor.

What is the lesson? Always have a printer (or two, or ten) SET UP at the conventions that is in direct control of the Paul supporters. Preferably a laser printer, so that printing is quick and clear. GO into the convention with pre-made slates of delegates, one featuring all-ron delegates, and then others featuring ron/santy ron/grinch splits to try and block Romneys goons. Have these ready as jpgs so that if people can't get a printed version, you can text the picture to their phone.

 

[ClydeCoulter]

Again--not to second guess--maybe give every RP supporter a prioritized list of delegates (no more than number to fill the slate) as they enter the caucus, as an emergency backup if TPTB prohibit distribution of other slates after proceedings convene.

And I also agree.

 

[sailingaway]

No, he meant that the Romney had a slate of folks they voted for, but those folks happened to be the ballot folks. Since delegates were allowed to nominate from the floor and be written in, we should have had a printer on hand so that we could quick make a slate for all of our supporters to work off of, rather than having to coordinate via word-of-mouth and figure out a slate on the floor.

What is the lesson? Always have a printer (or two, or ten) SET UP at the conventions that is in direct control of the Paul supporters. Preferably a laser printer, so that printing is quick and clear. GO into the convention with pre-made slates of delegates, one featuring all-ron delegates, and then others featuring ron/santy ron/grinch splits to try and block Romneys goons. Have these ready as jpgs so that if people can't get a printed version, you can text the picture to their phone.

what I'm saying is they HAD a printer and weren't allowed to use it. Although the specific motion was for ballots.