Non-Muslims Carried Out More than 90% of All Terrorist Attacks in America

[Occam's Banana]

Good call! And where does Oklahoma City fall? Based on the official story that should be "extreme right wing" terrorism.

Hell, I wouldn't be surprised if they counted incidents like Waco and Ruby Ridge as "terrorist attacks." (And whether they did or not, the ironic thing is that Waco and Ruby Ridge actually were "terrorist attacks" - only it wasn't the Davidians and the Weavers who were the attacking terrorists ...)

 

[Danke]

The OP only counts 9/11 as a single incident, equivalent to someone blowing up a mostly empty cafe where only a few people are injured.

Part highlighted by Zippy: "Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans". Body count.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Part highlighted by Zippy: "Of the more than 300 American deaths from political violence and mass shootings since 9/11, only 33 have come at the hands of Muslim-Americans". Body count.

One problem with body count is that a single event like 9/11 with huge casualties distorts it. More casualties does not necessarily mean more perpetrators.

If you prefer to go by the number events:

Based on our review of the approximately 2,400 terrorist attacks on U.S. soil contained within the START database, we determined that approximately 60 were carried out by Muslims.

In other words, approximately 2.5% of all terrorist attacks on U.S. soil between 1970 and 2012 were carried out by Muslims.* This is a tiny proportion of all attacks.

 

[Danke]

One problem with body count is that a single event like 9/11 with huge casualties distorts it. More casualties does not necessarily mean more perpetrators.

If you prefer to go by the number events:

No shit Sherlock.

I would think severity counts for a lot.

 

[Zippyjuan]

Who cares?

The point is why on earth would we want to import foreigners from countries who hate us, while our government is in their countries bombing the hell out of them?

The issue is the bombing- not the people trying to escape it. If there was no war in Syria there would not be over two million Syrian refugees.

 

[XNavyNuke]

What about since 9/10?

What is sooooooo magical about 1980? How about 1780? There would be a nice, big slice of the pie for "Nativists".

It's like the climate greenies arbitrarily picking dates to make their curves look right.

XNN

 

[idiom]

The thing is that in reality there is basically no terrorism in the United States.

There aren't even that many mass shootings.

France has had more people killed in mass shooting this year alone than during the whole of Obama's term.

 

[Danke]

The thing is that in reality there is basically no terrorism in the United States.

There aren't even that many mass shootings.

France has had more people killed in mass shooting this year alone than during the whole of Obama's term.

Doesn't that depend one how you define mass shootings?

 

[69360]

I don't consider the mass shootings terrorist acts. They are more criminal act than terrorist. 9/11 was terrorism. Oklahoma bombing was terrorism.

 

[Anti Federalist]

Immigrants are not coming to the US because they hate the US but because they want to come to the US to find a better life. The American Dream. That is how the country was built.

That's a fantasy anymore.

 

[r3volution 3.0]

Who cares?

The point is why on earth would we want to import foreigners from countries who hate us, while our government is in their countries bombing the hell out of them?

The point is that it hardly makes any difference one way or the other.

This allegedly existential threat is actually a fart in the wind.

 

[ZENemy]

Immigrants are not coming to the US because they hate the US but because they want to come to the US to find a better life. The American Dream. That is how the country was built.

What the fuck year do you live in? Lol no way you typed in "American dream" with a straight face, right?

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

ZippyJuan is a shit-smeared-pants-on-head blithering moron.

First, I'd like to see what Jewish and Latino terrorist attacks have occured. Who are these people? 42 percent of terror attacks were done by Mestizos, and yet no one in the anti-immigration right wing media reported on a single one of these incidents? Something is very wrong here.

Lets put that aside, though. Muslims are around 0.8 percent of the population. Taking these statistics at face value, they illustrate that the Mohammedans are FAR more likely to be terrorists than the general population. Also, if you use this data and assume that every single terrorist attack that was not committed by a Muslim or Mestizo was perpetrated by a white (which is not tenable), we're actually underrepresented when it comes to terrorist attacks!

Why is Zippy spreading anti-Muslim, anti-Latino white supremacist propaganda?

 

[Zippyjuan]

What the fuck year do you live in? Lol no way you typed in "American dream" with a straight face, right?

Are you saying that there is no such thing as the "American Dream" or that the "American Dream" is not to have the chance (not promise) at a better life?

 

[thoughtomator]

This is classification fallacy BS. If they counted gangland shootings as terrorism, then this chart looks completely different. And if it included acts of government, it would look wildly different. This is the result of "terrorism" not really meaning anything in particular.

 

[Lucille]

Yeah, I don't see government agents mentioned anywhere in the FOP's wall of text. Funny, that.

http://fff.org/explore-freedom/article/terrorism-and-lexical-warfare/

“Terrorism” is a colossal victim of lexical warfare.

The word “terror” comes from the Latin terrorem, which means “great fear” or “dread.” According to the Online Etymology Dictionary, the term “terrorism” arose during the Reign of Terror in the wake of the French Revolution (1789). “Terrorisme” in the French Reign of Terror (1793–1794) referred specifically to violence committed by the state against individuals; it described a period of savagery during which the French government executed tens of thousands of people whom it declared enemies of the state. The guillotine conducted political purges, executed aristocrats and clergy, punished hoarders, and enforced unpopular laws. Terrorism was an act through which the state brutalized and intimidated civilians.
[...]
The transformation of the word “terrorist” has shifted focus from the raw reality of state violence onto the mere possibility of individual violence, which is defined broadly enough to include dissent. In a stunning lexical victory, the police state has become the victim. Those who peacefully exercise their natural rights have become the terrorists.

 

[idiom]

Doesn't that depend one how you define mass shootings?

4 or more killed, not in aid of another crime.

 

[ThePaleoLibertarian]

Are you saying that there is no such thing as the "American Dream" or that the "American Dream" is not to have the chance (not promise) at a better life?

Why are you spreading anti-Muslim, anti-Mestizo, white supremacist propaganda?

 

[RabbitMan]

Immigrants are not coming to the US because they hate the US but because they want to come to the US to find a better life. The American Dream. That is how the country was built.

The American Dream isn't just to have a middle-class Caucasian American life-style circa mid-20h Century--it is to live in a country with diversity, where it is safe to express your opinions, your religious beliefs and who you are and the ability to make yourself again. A stable job-market with which to provide for your family, and where your kids can feasibly have the chance to do what ever they want if they put their mind to it.

Despite the growth of the serveillence state and gradual government creep, this is still very widely available to all who come.

The recent islamophobia is pretty depressing though, but like some of you have pointed out, is pretty normal stupid behavior that Americans have been perpetuating for two hundred years despite history proving time and time again that immigration has only strengthened the country.

Zippy is right. Good luck proving him wrong.

 

[osan]

Who cares?

The point is why on earth would we want to import foreigners from countries who hate us, while our government is in their countries bombing the hell out of them?

Or to make it a bit simpler for Juan: hearken back in time... 1944... America...

Roosevelt decides to import in 500K male Germans between the ages of 18 and 35 in order they be given a safe haven from the death and destruction rampaging across Germany. He further regards it "raycis" to in any way attempt to establish whether a given individual poses a threat to the people of America.

Yeah, that would have made sense.