Nominate a conservative and win, or nominate a RINO and lose

[John Cunningham]

I like the message, "Nominate a conservative and win, or nominate a RINO and lose."

Of course, there are two sides to that coin. It's fun to punish RINOs by running Libertarian or Conservative Party candidates against them. Unfortunately, that gets socialist Democrats elected... hardly a win.

The other side to the coin would be helping, gasp, choke, cough, I can't say it, Green Party candidates run when liberty Republicans are in the race. I wonder if we should be trying to recruit a Green Party candidate to run for Senate in Kentucky to draw votes from the Democrats.

 

[KAYA]

I like the message, "Nominate a conservative and win, or nominate a RINO and lose."

Of course, there are two sides to that coin. It's fun to punish RINOs by running Libertarian or Conservative Party candidates against them. Unfortunately, that gets socialist Democrats elected... hardly a win.

The other side to the coin would be helping, gasp, choke, cough, I can't say it, Green Party candidates run when liberty Republicans are in the race. I wonder if we should be trying to recruit a Green Party candidate to run for Senate in Kentucky to draw votes from the Democrats.

Wouldn't be much needed in a red state like KY, but if Schiff gets the nomination than that would certainly help in CT against Dodd.

 

[skyorbit]

I posted as much here.
http://randforsenate.blogspot.com/2009/11/memo-to-gop-nominate-conservative-or.html

Tracy

 

[ljwestmcsd]

I like the message, "Nominate a conservative and win, or nominate a RINO and lose."

Of course, there are two sides to that coin. It's fun to punish RINOs by running Libertarian or Conservative Party candidates against them. Unfortunately, that gets socialist Democrats elected... hardly a win.

The other side to the coin would be helping, gasp, choke, cough, I can't say it, Green Party candidates run when liberty Republicans are in the race. I wonder if we should be trying to recruit a Green Party candidate to run for Senate in Kentucky to draw votes from the Democrats.

The Green Party is Kentucky is practically non-existant. In fact, according to politics1 (http://www.politics1.com/ky.htm), they don't have a website anymore.
IIRC, they didn't even have any delegates to the Green Party National Convention last year.

However, there are about 190,000 Kentuckians that are registered as "Independent." We need to tap into them. This is the reason why Gatewood Galbraith is running as an Independent for Governor in 2011 rather than as a member of some third-party (all of which have less than 1000 members).

 

[Promontorium]

I thought it was funny and sad that Doug Hoffman (Conservative Party) lost. Scozzafava (R) got 5.5% of the vote, even after quitting, and stabbing conservatives in the back and supporting the Democratic candidate.

5.5%!!! And not even running!

The final votes were 49.3 (D) to 45.2(C).

If Hoffman had those 5.5%, he would have been the next Congressman.

Hilarious seeing the Republican act as a "spoiler" for the third party candidate. But it does help illustrate the overall "lie" of the "spoiler" concept. As certainly I'm sure she would have rather seen that 5.5% go to the Democratic, but overall, I bet she wanted the seat for herself. No candidate is any more a spoiler than the next. The idea that one person "spoils" a vote for another, is founded on a reasoning that the "spoiled" candidate somehow had more right to the office. It also reveals the built in corruption of political parties. Making people believe that team members have more right to a position than an individual.

I think it's really about the philosophy of the individual. If a liberty candidate were running as a Democratic, or a Republican, or as a conservative, or as a liberal, I'd support them the same. Unfortunately America loves those R and D titles, so any rational individual will have to pick their poison.

I'd like to think RINO means nothing to us. We will be more Republican than the Republicans. More Democratic than the Democratics. No matter the party. We will not be watered down or manipulated.

 

[Imperial]

The other side to the coin would be helping, gasp, choke, cough, I can't say it, Green Party candidates run when liberty Republicans are in the race. I wonder if we should be trying to recruit a Green Party candidate to run for Senate in Kentucky to draw votes from the Democrats.

Very bad move. People who would vote Green at this point would do so for one of two reasons: first, vote against both parties, and second, they have die-hard principles on some issue ignored by Obama (particularly civil liberties or war).

Either situation hurts Rand Paul. Rand has been dominating the independent vote in every scenario. Greens who may vote for Rand on principle would be able to have their own principled choice. Rand also is associated, for better or worse, as having connections with third parties. It helps further consolidate this (somewhat small) base.

 

[South Park Fan]

Right now, I'm a little concerned about the general election. The polls have shown Mongiardo tied with Paul and Conway leading Paul. On the other hand, Obama will be much less popular a year from now, so that will help us.

 

[hueylong]

Both Mongiardo and Conway are better known than Rand.

If Rand runs a strong race and wins the primary, he will likely be strongly positioned for the general.

The head to head at this point doesn't mean all that much. The fact that he is within the margin of error (moe) of both Dems is plenty good enough.