No Reports of Looting in Japan After Disaster

[Danke]

Good explanation.

Not really. Why haven't all the Japanese "drug attics, the homeless, the thugs, the inmates, the forgotten and the hopeless elderly" looted?

Remember the Korean shop owners, etc. defending against looters during the riots in L.A.? Hard to imagine that happening in Japan, having lived there and studied their culture.

 

[One Last Battle!]

Not really. Why haven't all the Japanese "drug attics, the homeless, the thugs, the inmates, the forgotten and the hopeless elderly" looted?

Remember the Korean shop owners, etc. defending against looters during the riots in L.A.? Hard to imagine that happening in Japan, having lived there and studied their culture.

Only been a couple days so far. Wait a week, see how things are then.

 

[juleswin]

Its only newsworthy to a couple of bozos trying to make a racial point. At first I thought it was exceptional that they haven't been any looting but after a day thinking about it, I started seeing holes in the theory. For one, not because the community is 99% ethic Japanese means that they are culturally, ethnically similar. Japanese people have their own sub groups sub cultures which can be very distinct and even conflicting with other Japanese culture and ethic group but we as outsiders cannot visualize it.

Also the ratio of law abiding, productive citizen can radically change the behaviour of the society when they are out numbered by the dependent, less affluent group. The case in Japan, there's no evidence that the tsunami killed or drove off more of the former group than the latter.

Anyway, more time and more examination needs to be conducted before jumping into any conclusions. These socioculturalist theories strikes me as what you see at supremacist websites not a liberty website

Sayonara my liberty friends

 

[ChaosControl]

Focus on the community instead of the individual and people will actually have some respect for other people's things and society values.
The homogeneous culture helps too, but it is more family/society as opposed to individual focus element of culture that contributes most to this.
Also to note that crime there is usually organized crime and thus less likely to be reported.

There is the good and the bad.

 

[Danke]

Only been a couple days so far. Wait a week, see how things are then.

Even as someone who doesn't blend in, I never felt concern for my safety anywhere I went day or night in Japan. I can't even say that about my home town here in American, let alone most big cities.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

Not really. Why haven't all the Japanese "drug attics, the homeless, the thugs, the inmates, the forgotten and the hopeless elderly" looted?

Remember the Korean shop owners, etc. defending against looters during the riots in L.A.? Hard to imagine that happening in Japan, having lived there and studied their culture.

I don't know. It's a different society. Doesn't mean it's a better society just different. And you speak as if the entire country of Japan is in ruins. If this happened in Tokyo I'm sure there would be all kinds of crime going on. And who says there isn't any crime going on. If not, good for them. But if you want to blame their race or skin pigment as the reason they are not looting, you need psychological help. There are many other factors that come into the equation like respect for ones property, your propensity to share, your socio-economic status, etc. Japanese people are very anti-individualists. That's how their culture is and has been for a long long time.

There are places in America just as safe. I can show you my old neighborhood in Louisiana (majority black neighborhood) that was very very safe. Lots of night we didn't lock our door, every one look out for one another and respected each other's property. It has nothing to do with the pigment of one's skin but the content of their character.

 

[YumYum]

Much less compared to more "Diverse" parts of America. State after State, City after City proves that Whites and North East Asians have lowest crime rates, and Black, Brown and South East Asians have highest crime rates.

95% and over White Towns and cities have almost negligible crime rates. You can leave your door unlocked in almost All 95%+ white cities in Middle American States like Utah, Idaho, Colorado, Wyoming, Montana, Nebraska, Kentucky etc etc and the result will be like Japan.

You leave your door open in Non-White dominated parts of "Diverse" portions of Counties and most likely your place will be robbed.

Political correctness means anyone who talks reality is David Duke and all who suffer under the heel of Non_White criminality are to be applauded for their "tolerance".

It is really unfortunate what has happened to America under the garb of Multicultural tolerance.

That is not entirely true. It has nothing to do with race. It has to do with people's economic status. I live in an area that is 99% white and my place has been robbed 3 times by meth addicts who were white. These white meth heads will steal your riding lawn mower right in front of you in broad daylight. The reason people could leave their doors unlocked in the states you mentioned is because those areas have little to no gun laws and you can shoot somebody who is trespassing and trying to steal your belongings, and get away with it. You can't here in MO. Here, you can only shoot somebody if your life is endangered, even if they are robbing you blind.

 

[Danke]

This has to be one of the most bizzard posts I've read as a response. Talk about putting words in one's mouth and twisting what I wrote:

I don't know. It's a different society. Doesn't mean it's a better society just different. And you speak as if the entire country of Japan is in ruins. If this happened in Tokyo I'm sure there would be all kinds of crime going on. And who says there isn't any crime going on. If not, good for them. But if you want to blame their race or skin pigment as the reason they are not looting, you need psychological help. There are many other factors that come into the equation like respect for ones property, your propensity to share, your socio-economic status, etc. Japanese people are very anti-individualists. That's how their culture is and has been for a long long time.

I don't know. It's a different society. Doesn't mean it's a better society just different.

And I didn't say it was better or worse as a society. We are talking specifically about looting and street crime.

And you speak as if the entire country of Japan is in ruins.

How did you get that out of what I posted?

If this happened in Tokyo I'm sure there would be all kinds of crime going on.

All Kinds? Like the topic at hand, looting? I doubt it.

But if you want to blame their race or skin pigment as the reason they are not looting, you need psychological help.

That makes no sense. I'm not blaming anyone for not looting. I have not brought in their "skin pigment" nor the race card that you seem so apt to do here. As far as "psychological help," you may want to look in the mirror.

 

[Fredom101]

Japanese society is more moral than other societies.

Japan also has the highest percentage of atheists of any country. Coincidence?

 

[Jack Bauer]

Japan also has the highest percentage of atheists of any country. Coincidence?

I have seen people argue that morality is derived from religion.

I would like to think we derive our morality from something better than religion.

 

[TheBlackPeterSchiff]

This has to be one of the most bizzard posts I've read as a response. Talk about putting words in one's mouth and twisting what I wrote:



And I didn't say it was better or worse as a society. We are talking specifically about looting and street crime.



How did you get that out of what I posted?

All Kinds? Like the topic at hand, looting? I doubt it.



That makes no sense. I'm not blaming anyone for not looting. I have not brought in their "skin pigment" nor the race card that you seem so apt to do here. As far as "psychological help," you may want to look in the mirror.

Im sorry, but my responses were aimed at some of the other posters, not u specifically.

 

[Fredom101]

I have seen people argue that morality is derived from religion.

I would like to think we derive our morality from something better than religion.

Me too.
But, "better" will be tough to define.
For me it simply comes down to trusting in reality, as opposed to belief in things that are not available to the senses. Nathaniel Branden has a book called "The Art of Living Consciously" that is an amazing read, and explains this idea perfectly, and why one is always better off aligning with reality.

 

[Jack Bauer]

Me too.
But, "better" will be tough to define.
For me it simply comes down to trusting in reality, as opposed to belief in things that are not available to the senses. Nathaniel Branden has a book called "The Art of Living Consciously" that is an amazing read, and explains this idea perfectly, and why one is always better off aligning with reality.

I think it comes from our Darwinian history. When we lived in smaller bands and tribes with people who were essential for our survival and who we would come across through most of our lives - that's where most of be good to others, don't steal, do unto others as you'd want them to do with you, etc. come from.

 

[ChaosControl]

I have seen people argue that morality is derived from religion.

I would like to think we derive our morality from something better than religion.

What is morality? Is it something constant or is it something that society decides? If it is the latter it is changing and in a way meaningless.
If it is constant, what determines it?

Now I am not religious, but I believe in a constant absolute morality. But I cannot really answer what it comes from. I don't think it comes from religion, I think religion is just one way people can try and understand morality. For me I get morality from my own intuition, what I feel and believe is right and wrong. We have different moralities since we interpret it different since we have different methods for interpreting it. Some people with religion, some with logic, some with intuition. Then we also have people who don't care about it at all. Since religion is only a tool and not a source, it makes perfect sense societies with less religious can still be as moral as those with it.

But what is "better than religion" or what is worse than it? What would be something that is better to derive morality from?

 

[Jack Bauer]

What is morality? Is it something constant or is it something that society decides? If it is the latter it is changing and in a way meaningless.
If it is constant, what determines it?

Now I am not religious, but I believe in a constant absolute morality. But I cannot really answer what it comes from. I don't think it comes from religion, I think religion is just one way people can try and understand morality. For me I get morality from my own intuition, what I feel and believe is right and wrong. We have different moralities since we interpret it different since we have different methods for interpreting it. Some people with religion, some with logic, some with intuition. Then we also have people who don't care about it at all. Since religion is only a tool and not a source, it makes perfect sense societies with less religious can still be as moral as those with it.

But what is "better than religion" or what is worse than it? What would be something that is better to derive morality from?

Your "intuition" is defined by your evolutionary history.

 

[SWATH]

In other news there are no reports of homosexuals in Iran.

 

[pcosmar]

No Reports =/= Didn't happen.

I suspect there are far more important issues than petty thefts.

 

[specsaregood]

There are places in America just as safe. I can show you my old neighborhood in Louisiana (majority black neighborhood) that was very very safe. Lots of night we didn't lock our door, every one look out for one another and respected each other's property. It has nothing to do with the pigment of one's skin but the content of their character.

As I look out my window, there is a razor scooter laying on the sidewalk. It was left there by a young kid that lives a few houses up the street about 4 days ago. It'll still be there when he comes back to play with again eventually.

 

[juleswin]

As I look out my window, there is a razor scooter laying on the sidewalk. It was left there by a young kid that lives a few houses up the street about 4 days ago. It'll still be there when he comes back to play with again eventually.

I agree with your overall point but what happens if that cumbersome, hard to shift razor scooter was a wallet filled with $100 notes? That my friend is the true test

 

[FrankRep]

Why is there no looting in Japan?


Telegraph UK
March 14th, 2011

And solidarity seems especially strong in Japan itself. Perhaps even more impressive than Japan’s technological power is its social strength, with supermarkets cutting prices and vending machine owners giving out free drinks as people work together to survive. Most noticeably of all, there has been no looting, and I’m not the only one curious about this.

This is quite unusual among human cultures, and it’s unlikely it would be the case in Britain. During the 2007 floods in the West Country abandoned cars were broken into and free packs of bottled water were stolen. There was looting in Chile after the earthquake last year – so much so that troops were sent in; in New Orleans, Hurricane Katrina saw looting on a shocking scale.

Why do some cultures react to disaster by reverting to everyone for himself, but others – especially the Japanese – display altruism even in adversity?​