No Rand Presidency in 2016

[pochy1776]

Politics is not about holding hands and signing kumbaya.

Romney 2012 must go down in flames in order for us to rebuild the party and form a more perfect Grand Ole Party.

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So, judging by your avatar: get rid of the social conservatives and Goldwater Hawks? (kinda good) Put in more "Liberty" candidates. You do know that (Traditional) Conservatism is one of the planks that helped Ron Paul be on the platform in 2007.

 

[Knightskye]

If Romney wins and governs like I think he will, then why wouldn't a liberty-minded Republican have a shot in 2016?

 

[Knightskye]

Politics is not about holding hands and signing kumbaya.

Romney 2012 must go down in flames in order for us to rebuild the party and form a more perfect Grand Ole Party.

If Romney-Ryan lose in November, wouldn't that be interpreted as the agenda (Medicare reform, supposed spending "cuts") being voted down and not the progressive philosophy that Romney represents?

 

[Matt Collins]

If Romney wins, Rand becomes the most powerful Republican in the country because he can primary Romney from the right and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. Do you forget who is in charge of the Republican Party of Iowa?

 

[LibertyEagle]

If Romney wins, Rand becomes the most powerful Republican in the country because he can primary Romney from the right and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. Do you forget who is in charge of the Republican Party of Iowa?

So what, Matt? Republicans tend to not want to vote out another Republican. In fact, they would very likely be ticked at Rand for running against Romney/Ryan.

 

[brandon]

Romney can't be primaried in 2016. What will happen is a whole shit ton of us will go 3rd party and wipe out most of the inroads we've made with the GOP on all levels. That's why it's incredibly important Obama wins this year.

 

[Matt Collins]

So what, Matt? Republicans tend to not want to vote out another Republican. In fact, they would very likely be ticked at Rand for running against Romney/Ryan.

If Romney doesn't behave, they will feel differently.

 

[phill4paul]

If Romney wins, Rand becomes the most powerful Republican in the country because he can primary Romney from the right and there isn't anything anyone can do about it. Do you forget who is in charge of the Republican Party of Iowa?

Won't happen. Ever.

"Stay the course." "You don't change horses mid-stream." "Party unity."

Won't happen. Ever.

 

[Eisenhower]

Is he implying that one would try and oust the incumbent?

lol.

 

[LibertyEagle]

If Romney doesn't behave, they will feel differently.

Have you forgotten that Republicans go to sleep when they believe one of their own is in power?

 

[VBRonPaulFan]

Have you forgotten that Republicans go to sleep when they believe one of their own is in power?

+1, this is one of the worst things that would come out of Rmoney winning. most of the folk all up in arms about the big govt bullshit would go completely back to sleep.

 

[Liberty74]

Obama wins 2012, Rand up in 2016?

Obama has nothing going for him. All economic indicators are bad and not improving. Plus Obama is struggling to raise money. How does Obama win exactly? This idea that us Paul supporters can swing the election is delusional. We don't have enough hard core votes to do such. I already broke down the math and it comes to like 10K votes per state on average.

Obama is pretty much toast unless there is a staged event by someone like the DHS.

 

[CaptLouAlbano]

Personally, I believe Romney will win this year simply because Obama is losing voters in every major voting bloc that he carried in 08 - blacks, youth, women, blue collar whites, etc. Can we honestly say that someone who voted for McCain in 08 is going to go into the voting booth in November and say to themselves, "This Obama guy is doing a great job, I am going to vote for him"?

Anyway, if Romney wins in November it gives Rand 8 years to build his national recognition and be effective in the Senate. We have 1/3 of the Senate up for election every two years. So we will see Senate elections in 14, 16 and 18 before anyone is even thinking about the 2020 nomination race. We could very well see Rand as Senate Majority Leader by that time, and that is a very powerful position to be in heading into a 2020 nomination contest.

 

[RonRules]

Nate Silver uses statistics to predict elections. He's extremely good at it.
http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytimes.com/

Right now the probability of an Obama win is 71.6% even though the popular vote is only about 51%

It's all about the electoral college number and states like California.

Go ahead prove him wrong.

 

[Chester Copperpot]

Not true, unless you expect Romney to do a good job as president. If Romney sucks and the economy sucks, then Romney will get primaried.

obama sucks and the economy sucks and obama didnt get primaried.

 

[schiffheadbaby]

Romney will RUIN the GOP name brand (even more than it already is)

We can't let him run as a "free market" candidate because then people will never want to vote for that message again after his years of corporatism.

 

[Galileo Galilei]

obama sucks and the economy sucks and obama didnt get primaried.

The democrats had nobody to run against him.

 

[schiffheadbaby]

The democrats had nobody to run against him.

It is nearly impossible to challenge in primaries of incumbent pres, who will be your donor base? Few want to donate against the President for business/political reasons.

Romney can't win, there will be no way to realistically challenge him in 2016

 

[Elwar]

My sig:

 

[green73]

There is no way in Hades that Romney will win.