No Paul = No Vote in November

[kathy88]

I voted for Ron in 1988 and wrote him in in 2008. Hopefully I will get to vote for him again this year, if not, write in for me. I want to be able to say I FULLY supported RP every chance I got. No selling out.

NOBP

 

[jeremiahj13]

Screw the establishment... NOBP,

 

[HigherVision]

I'm gonna vote LP. I generally like what I'm seeing from this Gary Johnson. Okay he may not be perfect but he seems to be anti-war, anti-drug war, pro-fiscal responsibility, etc. He at least seems better to me than Rand, who a lot of people here support seemingly just by virtue of being Paul's son. Compare the two's policies and tell me who's the more pro-liberty. Rand isn't even for legalizing cannabis.

 

[Paul Or Nothing II]

If I couldn't write in Ron Paul, I would vote for Obama for two reasons.

1) Payback for the lovely treatment Ron Paul and his supporters have been given by the GOP.
2) If there is a 2016 (yes, things do look that bad to me sometimes), someone running on the Republican ticket could have a chance. It would be nice if we could break our left/right conditioning by then as a nation, but it would be a stretch, considering the fluoridated, MSG-filled brains of most Americans. (I wish we could save them.) I still see the two-party system in place in another four years, as our intelligence isn't growing as fast as the tyranny.

We're all scattering to the wind, it seems. But I'm a NOBPer ... regardless of how helpful that is. I'm not going around screaming it and trying to hold anything or anyone hostage. Like others have mentioned, it's just a fact.

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Right! It is not a threat or a meant to make people mad, it is just a fact. Ron Paul supporters are overwhelmingly voting for no one but Ron Paul in November.

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Should Rosa Parks have been a team player and moved to the back of the bus? How about James Meredeth? What if he had decided to accept his lot as a black man and not even try to enter college? Nelson Mandela...should he have tried to compromise with the "existing system" and "gotten along"? Gandhi struggled to alleviate poverty, liberate women and put an end to caste discrimination, and achieved self-rule for India. Should he instead have become a TEAM PLAYER? And worked with that "establishment"?

Rosa Parks, James Meredith, Nelson Mandela, Gandhi and Martin Luther King certainly would have been LESS HATED had they not pushed for their principles despite long odds, rejection, and in some cases imprisonment because of their stances.

Where would the world be if they had not hung onto their integrity and fought for their cause?

The general public is ALWAYS slow to accept new truths. Look how long it took before people believed the world wasn't flat?

Voting for a candidate who advocates violating the constitution or his Oath of Office would be like Ron Paul voting for the Patriot Act, NDAA or War with Iran. He won't and I won't.

You don't give up WHEN you are in the right--and we are.

In my opinion.

Before you decide not to vote in November, I recommend you at least wait to see who the LP and CP candidates are. Also, there may be an independent that gets on the ballot on your state.

At minimum, please show up to vote for liberty candidates down ballot.

I'll support Ron if he's on any ballot. And if he's not, I'll support Gary Johnson on the Libertarian card. I don't think that writing in Paul is useful.

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I agree, writing in is a waste, voting for Obama should be the first choice - imagine if he wins 60-40, GOP will be destroyed & will come begging for liberty candidates

And if you can't bring yourself to vote for Obama then Libertarian or Constitution Party should be the option irrespective of their nominee, this is just about making our votes count, writing in is like wasting votes, voting for Obama or Libertarian or Constitution will ACTUALLY count & hurt the GOP & show them our strength

I don't think this is something the Official Campaign should do, however I do think this is a point that should be made on a personal level to GOP voters who we know that just want to defeat Obama.
Keep in mind

Self-identified Republicans represent just 27 percent of the electorate, compared with 31 percent who identify as Democrats and a record-high 40 percent who call themselves independents.

The GOP simply needs the cross over vote to win (actually either party does but the GOP needs it somewhat more).
In the most recent polls among Indies only two POTUS candidates score positively among Independent voters, Obama and Paul.

This is a message we should all be spreading among GOP voters we know who's main focus is electing a candidate who can beat Obama, because whether it's broadly admitted and understood or not for the GOP this election to beat Obama there really is No One But Paul

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Yes, we should definitely tell GOP voters about these things that GOP can't win on their own & they NEED Paul-supporters to beat Obama

 

[HigherVision]

I don't see why RP supporters don't just vote for the Libertarian Party candidate. They agree on like 90 percent of the issues and it's far from a vote for the establishment. I didn't vote for that Bob Barr guy last time around but Gary Johnson seems legit.

 

[zbh]

I voted for Ron in 1988 and wrote him in in 2008. Hopefully I will get to vote for him again this year, if not, write in for me. I want to be able to say I FULLY supported RP every chance I got. No selling out.

NOBP

That's awesome!

 

[mickey mouse joy division]

Speaking of Bob Barr, what a tool. He's one of Gingrich's biggest supporters.

 

[bobburn]

If Paul isn't the GOP nominee, Obama will win. I have no doubt of that.

 

[rp713]

it reminds me of george carlin. we have 32 flavors of ice cream to choose from, lots of different cars, trucks, suvs. different restaurants everywhere. lots of choices in lots of things..but only 2 people for president, the most important choice. how fuckin obvious is that? lol

 

[libertylastchance]

this is promoting the Romney/Paul ticket.. If people get on this bandwagon they bust the Ron Paul movement up.. and Rand commits political suicide.
Stay the course.. this is going to be the last stand that we will have..

The delegate plan by the campaign is starting to take place.

This is going to get worse and really ugly.. Paul will not likely win any state, and if Kansas wasn't a massive eye opener as to how the vote is controlled, then nothing will open anybody's eyes...

You cannot draw massive crowds like he does, and the others draw flies and then they win by landslides.

This is the peoples fight.. we need to take control our level.. CO. NV. leading the way..

 

[tbone717]

You cannot draw massive crowds like he does, and the others draw flies and then they win by landslides.

The ability to draw people for a rally is no indication of the volume of support, only the level of enthusiasm.

 

[Captain Shays]

You cannot draw massive crowds like he does, and the others draw flies and then they win by landslides.

Drawing big crowds means nothing. Back in 1999 I supported Nader. I attended a rally at Madison Square Garden that holds 23,000 people. It was sold out for $20 a head with an overflow of over 3,000 people outside who stayed there the entire time playing music, beating drums, marching with signs and chanting political slogans.

So what is Ron Paul drawing? 2,000-4,000? Nader was drawing rutinely four to five times that number and he was charging. In fact, Nader was out drawing both Bush and Gore by a factor of five and they weren't charging admission while Nader was charging $10-$20 per head to get into his rallies.

Nader got less than 1% of the vote in 2000.

No doubt it seems that our candidate is out drawing Santorum, Romney and Gingich but the fact is, it's not translating into votes for some reason. This needs to be corrected

 

[anaconda]

The ability to draw people for a rally is no indication of the volume of support, only the level of enthusiasm.

If Ron were filling football stadiums it might be a different story.

 

[tbone717]

Drawing big crowds means nothing. Back in 1999 I supported Nader. I attended a rally at Madison Square Garden that holds 23,000 people. It was sold out for $20 a head with an overflow of over 3,000 people outside who stayed there the entire time playing music, beating drums, marching with signs and chanting political slogans.

So what is Ron Paul drawing? 2,000-4,000? Nader was drawing rutinely four to five times that number and he was charging. In fact, Nader was out drawing both Bush and Gore by a factor of five and they weren't charging admission while Nader was charging $10-$20 per head to get into his rallies.

Nader got less than 1% of the vote in 2000.

No doubt it seems that our candidate is out drawing Santorum, Romney and Gingich but the fact is, it's not translating into votes for some reason. This needs to be corrected

Capt. Shays, your icon says it all. Ron Paul is the Dead of politics. Tons of loyal fans that will be willing to travel to see him. Able to pack the arenas he appears in, but doesn't translate into numbers when it counts. Just like the boys could do a 3 night run in NYC and sell out every night, but could barely get an album to chart in the top 20.

 

[Nathan Hale]

I've always interpreted the "No one but Paul" thing as referring to the Republican nomination. There are other liberty candidates that I could support for president.

Agreed. "No one but Paul" beyond the context of this nominating contest makes this whole thing a cult of personality rather than a genuine movement.

 

[Nathan Hale]

And props to the few recent posters who talk about the fact that motivated core supporters does not equal mobilized moderates. We can talk all the shit we want about the "sheeple" who are "in the matrix", but we *require* a percentage of their votes if we ever hope to gain the presidency. The question is how we go about getting them.

 

[Captain Shays]

Capt. Shays, your icon says it all. Ron Paul is the Dead of politics. Tons of loyal fans that will be willing to travel to see him. Able to pack the arenas he appears in, but doesn't translate into numbers when it counts. Just like the boys could do a 3 night run in NYC and sell out every night, but could barely get an album to chart in the top 20.

Yep! I totally agree.. I have said before that there are a lot of similarities between us and Deadheads. I should know. I've seen over 200 shows from coast to coast.

At least we don't have any In The Dark Heads like we did back when Touch of Grey came out. Then all of a sudden there were all these new heads coming out that ruined things.

There should be a Deaheads For Ron Paul web page.

Doesn't it suck that so many heads including the boys themselves supported Obama? One would think that Ron Paul is the pefect candidate. The scene outside every show was a great example of free market capitalism in action. Self policing, fair, friendly, providing plenty of goods and services, no government needed and everyone happy as a hoot.

BTW It took me years to figure out who the Grateful Dead were and why they followed me around everywhere I went.

 

[seawolf]

Certainly, I will not sit out the 2012 election.....Probably vote for the Libertarian Ticket....but certainly not Romney or Santorium who has publicly stated that he does not Like Liberty Candidates.

 

[anaconda]

NO ONE BUT PAUL--IT'S THAT IMPORTANT

Of course no other Republican nominee should get out votes. But vote for a good Liberty candidate! Plus Ron may endorse someone like he did in 2008.

 

[Supernaut]

No Ron Paul = no vote out of me. I've voted in every primary and general election since I was 18 (30 now) but I will not give legitimacy to this bullshit process any more after this year. After this election cycle and seeing how Ron Paul was cheated out of this election, I'm done with the whole system.