No one talks about the Number One reason for rising healthcare costs.

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(Except us, of course. And it's all government's fault, duh.)

Maybe this will help our less intelligent friends a bit.

 
$16k for his kid, negotiated to $8k by their insurance Co.

More than 1/2 of all births are billed directly to the taxpayers.....(No insurance single mothers)
 
tod evans said:
$16k for his kid, negotiated to $8k by their insurance Co.

More than 1/2 of all births are billed directly to the taxpayers.....(No insurance single mothers)
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My brothers last three kids were born at home with the assistance of a mid-wife that worked through his church. I think it cost him, maybe, $300 donation including pre-birth coaching etc. Of course this was 30 yrs. ago. All the kids are healthy and fine.
 
Before Obamacare my relatives that work in the healthcare field (several decades cumulative) have told me that it's government and her mandates that have driven up the costs..

I'm sure that hasn't changed for the better with more government involvement.

My youngest brother works in hospital administration for the Air-Force, hearing he and my sis, 30yr nurse, discuss government intervention into healthcare is an eye opener, one has unlimited monies from the government the other has to fight tooth and nail for 35% of billed monies.........
 
I do. It's government involvement and has been the #1 main reason for decades.

Medicare lit the fuse.
 
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He keeps saying "my wife is pregnant "

in reality "they" are pregnant, right?
 
oyarde said:
There is one reason for high health cost . Government .
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Yes they have interfered with our market and now we have no competition and it's no longer a "service industry" and all that..

It didn't used to be this way.. People would come here for the cutting edge procedures that worked.. Beaurucrats are terrible administrators of most things especially things they don't understand..

Consumer electronics is a great example of how any successful market works.. The tech gets bigger(or smaller)better and cheaper every year and medicine could be this way too..thoug all the regulation and gov control

it's easier than waiting for a perfect world where people don't get exploited etc.. If it truly was a service industry everyone would win and doctors and patients would have the autonomy they have by right not by privilege of beaurucrats.
 
I caught and cut the cord in a mobile home. I'm out a dollar store roll of butchers twine to tie the knot on the cord.


...well and a couple good books from Ina May Gaskin.

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my wife and son are both hemophiliacs
 
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40% of medical care costs are simply handling all of the paperwork. Every patient has a different insurance policy from a bunch of different companies which all need a completely different form and supporting paperwork sent to all different addresses to try to get re-imbursed for services. Not a popular option but a single payer with single forms would greatly reduce that cost. Canada is single payer and their overhead is down around 16% instead of 40% we pay. There are pluses and minuses to all systems.

Then there is the "technology war". Every hospital in a city seems to "need" a very expensive piece of equipment they rarely use but must pay for so they add the costs to all of their bills to help pay for it- instead of sharing equipment like it with other hospitals in the area.
 
Way to go Zip! Trying to promote more government in order to fix what government has fucked up.......

What could possibly go wrong?
 
Zippyjuan said:
Not a popular option but a single payer with single forms would greatly reduce that cost.
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Not if the U.S. does it.

If it comes out anything like Medicare, that single form would turn out to be 47 pages long.
 
tod evans said:
Way to go Zip! Trying to promote more government in order to fix what government has fucked up.......

What could possibly go wrong?
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ANd his comment indicates he didn't actually watch the video. He just saw the title and decided to pimp a little socialism.
 
tod evans said:
Way to go Zip! Trying to promote more government in order to fix what government has fucked up.......

What could possibly go wrong?
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Yes he is supporting a single payer system, surprise surprise.
 
Ronin Truth said:
I do. It's government involvement and has been the #1 main reason for decades.

Medicare lit the fuse.
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Before that.

Why do we have this excess insurance in the first place? Government. They froze wages during WWII, but in 1943 the War Labor Board rules wage freeze does not apply to fringe benefits, e.g. health insurance. This distortion continues to this day, and largely explains the bizarre lack of pricing in healthcare and excessive reliance on insurance.

Zippyjuan said:
40% of medical care costs are simply handling all of the paperwork. Every patient has a different insurance policy from a bunch of different companies which all need a completely different form and supporting paperwork sent to all different addresses to try to get re-imbursed for services. Not a popular option but a single payer with single forms would greatly reduce that cost. Canada is single payer and their overhead is down around 16% instead of 40% we pay. There are pluses and minuses to all systems.

Then there is the "technology war". Every hospital in a city seems to "need" a very expensive piece of equipment they rarely use but must pay for so they add the costs to all of their bills to help pay for it- instead of sharing equipment like it with other hospitals in the area.
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OMG. Please read my above reply or this or anything about health insurance history. There is another way... free markets. I'm surprised you aren't familiar with it.

That would also happen to solve the "tech war", which doesn't seem to be a problem in other areas where things are more free market oriented and consumers can actually shop around and compare prices.
 
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Problem -> Reaction -> Solution.

1) Health insurance costs through the roof.

2) Middle Class can't afford health insurance.

3) Socialized medicine for all.
 
The major cause is that the largest buyer in the healthcare market by far is a spendthrift imbecile with unlimited funds (i.e. government).

Naturally, prices will rise in that situation.

There are lots of other factors, of course, all kinds of anti-competitive regulations, etc, but Medicare/Medicaid are the biggees.

Zippyjuan said:
40% of medical care costs are simply handling all of the paperwork. Every patient has a different insurance policy from a bunch of different companies which all need a completely different form and supporting paperwork sent to all different addresses...
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...yea, it would be so much more efficient if we just, like, had a single payer for all medical expenses, amiright?

:rolleyes:

Danke said:
He keeps saying "my wife is pregnant "

in reality "they" are pregnant, right?
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If he identifies as pregnant, can he use the changing table in the women's restroom?
 
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