No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer

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No Clear Link Between Passive Smoking and Lung Cancer

http://jnci.oxfordjournals.org/content/early/2013/12/05/jnci.djt365.extract

A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.

“The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers],” said Ange Wang, the Stanford University medical student who presented the study at the June 2013 meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology in Chicago.

Investigators from Stanford and other research centers looked at data from the Women’s Health Initiative Observational Study (WHI-OS). Among 93,676 women aged 50–79 years at enrollment, the study had complete smoking and covariate data (including passive smoking exposure in childhood, adult home, and work) for 76,304 participants. Of those, 901 developed lung cancer over 10.5 mean years of follow-up.

The incidence of lung cancer was 13 times higher in current smokers and four times higher in former smokers than in never-smokers, and the relationship for both current and former smokers depended on level of exposure. However, among women who had never smoked, exposure to passive smoking overall, and to most categories of passive smoking, did not statistically significantly increase lung cancer risk
 
“The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers],”

Wood stoves, burger joint exhaust, bbq's, car exhaust, farts. Gotta find something else to regulate now that second hand smoke is in the bag.
 
“The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers],” said Ange Wang, the Stanford University medical student who presented the study at the June 2013 meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology in Chicago.

Arsenic in the water?

Abstract

Ingestion of arsenic, both from water supplies and medicinal preparations, is known to cause skin cancer. The evidence assessed here indicates that arsenic can also cause liver, lung, kidney, and bladder cancer and that the population cancer risks due to arsenic in U.S. water supplies may be comparable to those from environmental tobacco smoke and radon in homes.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1519547/

Radon?

The most recent National Academy of Science (NAS) report on radon, The Health Effects of Exposure to Radon (the BEIR VI Report, published in 1999), estimated that about 14 percent of the 164,100 lung cancer deaths in the United States each year are attributable to exposure to radon - correlating to approximately 15,000 to 22,000 lung cancer deaths each year. 160 of these deaths have been attributed to radon dissolution exposure in ingested water, and 700 deaths from exposure in outdoor air (mostly exposure from mines). The majority of the radon caused deaths occur from inhalation of radon and radon progeny. The average number of years of life expectancy lost per death from lung cancer is about fifteen. In a second NAS report published in 1999 on radon in drinking water, the NAS estimated that about 89 percent of the fatal cancers caused by radon in drinking water were due to lung cancer from inhalation of radon released to indoor air, and about 11 percent were due to stomach cancer from consuming water containing radon.

http://enhs.umn.edu/hazards/hazardssite/radon/radonriskassessment.html
 
Life is deadly.

Balance the risk with the rewards and live happily.

Everyone knows smoking isn't healthy, to which degree it isn't probably depends more on luck (your genes and luck) than anything. Don't worry too much, consider risks but don't let them affect your overall quality of life.
 
It says there is a link for lung cancer with long term (30 year) exposure to heavy passive smoking. For shorter periods of exposure it points out other adverse effects including asthma, upper respiratory infections, other pulmonary diseases, cardiovascular disease, sudden infant death syndrome, low birth weight, and childhood ear infections.

Judy Peres said:
A large prospective cohort study of more than 76,000 women confirmed a strong association between cigarette smoking and lung cancer but found no link between the disease and secondhand smoke.

"The fact that passive smoking may not be strongly associated with lung cancer points to a need to find other risk factors for the disease [in nonsmokers]," said Ange Wang, the Stanford University medical student who presented the study at the June 2013 meeting of the American Society of Clinical Oncology in Chicago.

Investigators from Stanford and other research centers looked at data from the Women's Health Initiative Observational Study (WHI-OS). Among 93,676 women aged 50-79 years at enrollment, the study had complete smoking and covariate data (including passive smoking exposure in childhood, adult home, and work) for 76,304 participants. Of those, 901 developed lung cancer over 10.5 mean years of follow-up.

The incidence of lung cancer was 13 times higher in current smokers and four times higher in former smokers than in never-smokers, and the relationship for both current and former smokers depended on level of exposure. However, among women who had never smoked, exposure to passive smoking overall, and to most categories of passive smoking, did not statistically significantly increase lung cancer risk. The only category of exposure that showed a trend toward increased risk was living in the same house with a smoker for 30 years or more. In that group, the hazard ratio for developing lung cancer was 1.61, but the confidence interval included 1.00, making the finding of only borderline statistical significance.

"To our knowledge, this is the first study to examine both active and passive smoking in relation to lung cancer incidence in a complete prospective cohort of US women," Wang reported. "The findings support continued need for investment in smoking prevention and cessation, research on passive smoking, and understanding of lung cancer risk factors other than smoking."

Jyoti Patel, MD, of Northwestern University School of Medicine said the findings were not new.

The study "mimics the numbers we've known," she said. "In the existing literature, an active smoker who smokes two packs a day for 30 years has a 60-fold-higher risk of lung cancer than a never-smoker, and a never-smoking woman living with a smoking husband for 30 years has a twofold-higher risk.

"Passive smoking has many downstream health effects-asthma, upper respiratory infections, other pulmonary diseases, cardiovascular disease-but only borderline increased risk of lung cancer," said Patel. "The strongest reason to avoid passive cigarette smoke is to change societal behavior: to not live in a society where smoking is a norm.

"It's very reassuring that passive smoke in the childhood home doesn't increase the risk of lung cancer [in this study]," said Patel. "But it doesn't decrease the need for us to have strong antismoking measures. There are very few never-smokers in smoking families."

A large body of research has linked passive smoking to lung cancer, as well as to coronary heart disease, asthma, emphysema, respiratory infections, sudden infant death syndrome, low birth weight, and childhood ear infections. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, secondhand smoke is responsible for 46,000 heart disease deaths and 3,400 lung cancer deaths among US nonsmoking adults each year. But many studies that showed the strongest links between secondhand smoke and lung cancer were case-control studies, which can suffer from recall bias: People who develop a disease that might be related to passive smoking are more likely to recall being exposed to passive smoking.

So does secondhand smoke cause lung cancer or not? "We can't say it's not a risk factor," said Wang.

Heather Wakelee, MD, associate professor of medicine and oncology at Stanford and one of the study's senior investigators, explained why. WHI-OS had only 901 cases of lung cancer, and only 152 of those occurred in never-smokers. "It's hard to say anything conclusive with such small numbers," said Wakelee.
Another problem is that measuring exposure to passive smoke is hard. "Living with a husband who smokes a lot with the windows closed is reported the same as living with one who smokes a little, mostly on the porch," said Wakelee. (The study measured passive smoking in years, not pack-years.)

Moreover, of the nearly 40,000 nonsmokers in the WHI-OS, only about 4,000 reported no exposure to cigarette smoke. "That means almost everybody had passive-smoking exposure," said Wakelee, "so it's very hard to say that that exposure is causing the problem-it's hard to tease out a difference.

"We don't want people to conclude that passive smoking has no effect on lung cancer," she said. "We think the message is, this analysis doesn't tell us what the risk is, or even if there is a risk."

Debbie Winn, PhD, deputy director of the Division of Cancer Control and Population Sciences at the National Cancer Institute, said it might be useful to "join up with other cohorts and ask the same question. You need cohorts that together can yield many thousands of cases and controls."

Meanwhile, said Winn, the International Agency for Research on Cancer (as well as NCI) has said unequivocally that passive smoking is a cause of lung cancer. "You shouldn't conclude from this study that it isn't," she said.

Gerard Silvestri, MD, of the Medical University of South Carolina, a member of NCI's PDQ Screening and Prevention Editorial Board, welcomed the WHI-OS study for its focus on women and for emphasizing that smoking greatly increases their risk of lung cancer.

"More women will die of lung cancer this year than of all other female cancers-breast, ovarian, cervix, and uterine-combined," he said. "A lot of women have missed that message. And it's an incredibly important message for young female smokers. They are the most at-risk group now because they have made the connection between smoking and weight control."

However, Silvestri finds some reassurance in the passive-smoking findings. "We can never predict who is going to develop lung cancer," he said. "There are other modifiers. But you can say, with regard to passive smoke, it's only the heaviest exposure that produces the risk. We kind of knew that before, but it's a little stronger here."

"We've gotten smoking out of bars and restaurants on the basis of the fact that you and I and other nonsmokers don't want to die," said Silvestri. "The reality is, we probably won't."

According to data compiled by Americans for Nonsmokers' Rights, 24U.S. states and 575 municipalities and counties have laws banning smoking in all nonhospitality workplaces, restaurants, and bars; 36 states prohibit public smoking to some degree. Nearly 200 local governments also ban smoking in private units of multiunit housing.

Internationally, 91 nations have enacted some sort of antismoking laws.

Asked whether a waitress who spent 15 years working in a smoky bar should feel reassured, Wakelee said, "Certainly, if you look just at this study and ignore other data. But you can't really ignore all the other data or ignore all the health risks linked to that exposure."

© Oxford University Press 2013.
 
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It says there is a link for lung cancer with long term (30 year) exposure to heavy passive smoking. For shorter periods of exposure it points out other adverse effects including asthma, upper respiratory infections, other pulmonary diseases, cardiovascular disease, sudden infant death syndrome, low birth weight, and childhood ear infections.

And spontaneous decapitation, don't forget spontaneous decapitation.
 
What about Fracking?

Some of the chemicals that come out of the water when you turn on the tap go into the air. Hence why there are videos where people can catch their tap water on fire. How about Radon? And not just Radon in your home, but your friends homes, workplace, and other sources where it naturally seeps into the atmo? Not considering global warming, but what scientists always point to that causes global warming? Like vehicle exhaust? People still use Leaded Gasoline in certain types of vehicles. Maybe its Hair Spray? Or say something else we dont consider. Like Paint. Paint used to also contain lead. It deteriorates after time, and parts of it probably turn into Dust, that is eventually inhaled? So if there is dust from stuff that exists in peoples houses, what if some of that stuff that slowly deteriorates and turns into dust contributes? What if it isnt the wood that holds a house together, but the glue that is used in particle boards?

But more importantly, what if it all turned out to be something that has already been found and the MSM refuses to acknowledge? What if there was no profit in making sick people healthy? What if it was more profitable to make people sick? What kind of incentive would there be if people were made sick for profit to actually make them healthier? What if companies valued profits over human lives?
 
And spontaneous decapitation, don't forget spontaneous decapitation.

Um. Is it your contention that heavy exposure to second hand smoke over a prolonged period of time has no adverse side effects whatsoever just because there isn't a strong connection to lung cancer in particular?
 
Probably not your contention or probably not any adverse effects?

Probably not any adverse effects from secondary smoke.

We were told lung cancer was one, now, maybe not.

This pandora's box needs to be shut.

Otherwise, every action that you take can be said to adversely effect somebody else.

Thus requiring regulation and restriction.
 
Probably not any adverse effects from secondary smoke.

We were told lung cancer was one, now, maybe not.

This pandora's box needs to be shut.

Otherwise, every action that you take can be said to adversely effect somebody else.

Thus requiring regulation and restriction.

The difference between what a smoker gets and someone who is getting secondary smoke is in degree, not in kind. The effect on the body is the same, in a different degree. It can take decades for a smoker to develop lung cancer (and some people never get it), so it shouldn't be surprising that someone regularly exposed to secondary smoke would take an even longer time. That's why the first signs of a tie to lung cancer in this study don't even begin to show up until 30 years. Also, this study was only on women. For some reason, men who smoke are much more likely to develop lung cancer than women.

The legislative aspect of this is a separate issue. Otherwise we could drag in things that are more clearly harmful, like second hand smoke from crack cocaine or the down wind effects of burning a mountain of car tires.
 
The difference between what a smoker gets and someone who is getting secondary smoke is in degree, not in kind. The effect on the body is the same, in a different degree. It can take decades for a smoker to develop lung cancer (and some people never get it), so it shouldn't be surprising that someone regularly exposed to secondary smoke would take an even longer time. That's why the first signs of a tie to lung cancer in this study don't even begin to show up until 30 years. Also, this study was only on women. For some reason, men who smoke are much more likely to develop lung cancer than women.

The legislative aspect of this is a separate issue. Otherwise we could drag in things that are more clearly harmful, like second hand smoke from crack cocaine or the down wind effects of burning a mountain of car tires.

But it was clearly okay when government set off the A-bombs and told people down wind of it they were perfectly safe--which we know now, they weren't. So before government regulates and restricts smoking they need to regulate themselves first. Lot's of people got lung cancer from that.

Bottom line is government should mind their own business and stop using junk science to control the population.
 
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Otherwise we could drag in things that are more clearly harmful, like second hand smoke from crack cocaine or the down wind effects of burning a mountain of car tires.

There is also the aspect that Bullets fired from the gun of a Cop may be slightly more harmful, especially if those shots are fired at a suspected or accused Tobacco Dealer which may hit innocent bystanders once the powers that be get what they want and make Tobacco illegal, period.
 
The Japanese smoke like chimneys, more than the US and they have far fewer cases of lung cancer than us.
 
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