Nikki Haley and the New Racial Face of the South

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Nikki Haley is poised to join Bobby Jindal as conservative Indian Americans running Deep South states. Tunku Varadarajan on how they’re exploding racial attitudes—and why the Dems don’t get it.

Nikki Haley, née Nimrata Randhawa, is almost assured of the Republican nomination for governor of the state of South Carolina. And if she does win her runoff on June 22, she is almost certain to be elected governor in November, which would give rise to the remarkable fact that two deeply conservative Southern states—South Carolina and Louisiana—will be home to governors of Indian descent, one the son of Hindu immigrants, the other the daughter of Sikhs.

What explains the success of Jindal and Haley in their respective states? In posing this question, I hint, of course, at the South’s lingering reputation for racial intolerance; and who can deny that the two states in question have not always been at the forefront of America’s historical striving for racial amity?

Could it be that since Democrats put more of an emphasis on identity politics, an Indian-American Democrat would have to contend with other ethnic constituencies that might think that it’s “their turn” first?

One answer is that these two politicians are consummate conservatives in a milieu that rewards political conservatism, and that their success is a validation of their ideology and intelligence. Their ethnicity, in other words, is an irrelevance. This view was expressed, in effect, by a friend—a law professor in Tennessee—when I asked him why he thought Indian-American conservatives were doing so well in some Southern states: “There are lots of Indians in the South, and they work hard and do well. Why wouldn’t people like 'em, especially when they work hard at politics and espouse conservative, capitalist, pro-family views?”

Naturally, it is unwise to make any generalizations based on the emergence of Jindal and Haley alone, but their success is striking, given that Indian Americans comprise barely 1 percent of the U.S. population, and are not found in overly large numbers in either Louisiana or South Carolina. A generalized observation that we can make, however, is that the GOP—being a relatively new establishment party in the South—has fewer institutional barriers to fresh faces. There are no GOP “machines” there, in the manner of the Democratic ones in New York or Illinois, and there aren’t, also, the massive expenditure hurdles of the kind that exist in California.

Another explanation for Jindal/Haley could be that it’s a myth, or an outdated perception, that the South is inimical to racial minorities. Conventional wisdom has it that Southern whites vote Republican because the Democrats are the party of civil rights. That may have been true in 1964, but has been much less so since. (James Taranto wrote a terrific op-ed on this subject in The Wall Street Journal in 2004, and his points all hold true today.) It is more accurate to say that blacks vote Democratic (both in the South and elsewhere) because they perceive the Republican Party to be racist, and that today’s white Southerners vote for the GOP because they are conservative on other matters such as religion, abortion, guns, the size of government, and national defense. This does, however, give rise to an appearance of a racially polarized electorate, which, in turn, keeps alive the stereotype of Southern intolerance.

One could make a different argument, too:

http://www.thedailybeast.com/blogs-...ericans-running-deep-south-states/?cid=hp:exc
 
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Jindal is an ambitious snake.....Nikki Haley I dont know enough about
 
Jindal is an ambitious snake.....Nikki Haley I dont know enough about

I know that the establishment positively hates her enough for the GOP to run hate-ads against her even tough she's a prominent Republican minority. That's actually a pretty profound level of hatred. I'm guessing she must be doing something right. lol
 
Anyone know anything about her views? According to this article she identifies herself as a libertarian.

Haley has already been forced to defend herself against the Sanford 2.0 charge on the campaign trail. She says that while she may fit Sanford’s ideological mold — she defines herself as a libertarian — she won’t govern with the same style. “We’re actually different,” she said on the campaign trail last week. “I will actually be predictable.”

Read more: http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0610/38642_Page2.html#ixzz0rdIQJ6BW
 
Both Jindal and Haley seem like opportunists who will change themselves, their religious views, and their culture if it is required.
 
Both Jindal and Haley seem like opportunists who will change themselves, their religious views, and their culture if it is required.

Or, they could have legitimately changed their views for their own personal reasons. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are a conman.
 
She seems pretty solid on economic issues. Pretty anti-tax and limited government economic wise.

Named "tax-payers friend" by the South Carolina Association of Tax-Payers.
"Palmetto Leadership Award" by the South Carolina Policy Council (looks like a limited government/personal liberty group http://www.scpolicycouncil.com/)

I'm intrigued. Wonder how she stands foreign policy wise.
 
It was better when we were thought of as a bunch of racist rednecks.

Now we are being invaded.
 
Indian Americans seem comparable to Jews, in the sense that both groups are highly educated, success oriented. 50 years ago all the corner stores in black neighborhoods were Jewish owned, now its Indians and Koreans. maybe politics just developing the same way
 
I'd just like to comment that I don't really feel like Jindal and Haley have tried to put on some kind of cloak over their real selves to look more Christian, or more conservative, etc. I suspect that Haley has a fairly generic attachment to Christianity (apparently she was being touted as the first Sikh elected to public office a few years ago), but I'd say the same is likely true of a LOT of Republican elected officials. Jindal actually participated in a Catholic exorcism of some kind when he was a lot younger, so I hardly think he's pretending. I think both are pretty sincere and straightforward, and Haley in particular seems like she might be almost our kind of Republican.

Also, I give Hillary Clinton a pass for her southern drawl schtick because she was, after all, the wife of a southern governor for a long time, so it's not like she just pulled that kind of talk out of her ass. She's probably actually pretty adept at getting "folksy" with southern people, and I'm sure some of it is just a politeness technique... what those of us with Linguistics degrees like to call "flattering the positive face" of an interlocutor, meaning adjusting one's speech patterns to show in-group identity rather than creating distance. It's something people do all the time, though usually less egregiously.
 
My main problem with Jindal is his support for Real ID. He'll have to change that before he gets an ounce of support from me.

I like Haley. It's fun to hear her talk because I've met Indians in my neck of the woods with a southern drawl, it's kind of interesting. She comes off as similar to Rubio in terms of economic policy but I haven't heard her comment on some our core issues. Strong, sincere sounding, debater.
 
Doesn't surprise me. Indian-Americans are generally very hard working and ambitious. For less than 1% of the population I also believe they are something like 1/4 of people in medical school. It's an American success story.

As far as people in the South being more racist. I've lived all throughout the South and I'll say Southerners are more likely to be politically incorrect and "open" about their views on race. Whereas a Northerner might hide it more. But I do not believe they are significantly more racist than anyone else. In my experience at least.
 
Or, they could have legitimately changed their views for their own personal reasons. Just because someone disagrees with you doesn't mean they are a conman.

But if "you" believe in voluntary association and voluntary contract, and "they" disagree with you while convincing other people to band together with the intent of forcefully violating those principles, for your "own good" of course, then some pretty shady shit is going down.
 
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