NH - Over 5000 out of state illegal voters swung election results

Exactly. Not having a New Hampshire driver's license does not mean a person is not a resident of New Hampshire. It does not mean they voted. It does not mean they voted illegally. It means exactly nothing.

Not exactly. Not having a New Hampshire license doesn't mean they are a resident of New Hampshire even if they voted in New Hampshire. It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble? It may very well mean they voted illegally. To some, in close elections, it may mean quite a bit.
And if you haven't got the memo, Hillary was full of shit. It DID and DOES matter what really happened in Benghazi.
 
Not exactly. Not having a New Hampshire license doesn't mean they are a resident of New Hampshire even if they voted in New Hampshire. It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble? It may very well mean they voted illegally. To some, in close elections, it may mean quite a bit.
And if you haven't got the memo, Hillary was full of $#@!. It DID and DOES matter what really happened in Benghazi.

Exactly. Why go through the trouble? Why would you drive all the way to another state where you did not live and were not registered to cast your single ballot when you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference in the outcome of that state after waiting in line to cast your ballot in your own state? Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.
 
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Oh yeah, the ones where the machines jammed so people kept trying to stuff the same ballot in over and over raising the counter on the machines.

Oh, so I guess voting for Hillary makes the machines jam :rolleyes:
 
Oh yeah, the ones where the machines jammed so people kept trying to stuff the same ballot in over and over raising the counter on the machines.

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Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.

It makes no sense because you just made up a dumb scenario. :rolleyes:









Exactly. Why go through the trouble?

Why do you go through the trouble of posting on this site? What is the common element motivating a lot of devious activity?


...you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference...

Are you making a difference here? Do you know? If so, how do you know?









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Exactly. Why go through the trouble? Why would you drive all the way to another state where you did not live and were not registered to cast your single ballot when you have zero idea that it would even make a whit of difference in the outcome of that state after waiting in line to cast your ballot in your own state? Or would you travel as a group? It would be kinds suspicious if an entire bus of people pulls up with out of state IDs and tries to register at a single precinct at the same time. It makes no sense.

Religious fervor.
And who said they all came on the same bus?
 
It's probable they voted if they registered to vote. Why go through the trouble?

Especially if they registered to vote ON election day. Besides, They know if they voted and it says in the OP exactly how many: "6,540 people voted using out-of-state licenses" of course it isn't "evidence" but its enough to investigate and charge people with crimes. I suspect the fines that could be issued would cover the costs.
 
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Oh, so I guess voting for Hillary makes the machines jam :rolleyes:

http://time.com/4599886/detroit-voting-machine-failures-were-widespread-on-election-day/

Detroit Voting Machine Failures Were Widespread on Election Day

More than 80 voting machines in Detroit malfunctioned on Election Day, officials say, resulting in ballot discrepancies in 59% of precincts that raise questions about the reliability of future election results in a city dominated by Democratic and minority voters.

"This is not the first time," adds Daniel Baxter, elections director for the city. "We've had this problem in nearly every election that we administer in the city of Detroit." Baxter says that the machines were tested for accuracy before election day in accordance with state and federal guidelines, but that sometimes the machines "hit up against each other and malfunction" as they're being transported to the precincts.

The machines were optical scanners, meaning they registered and counted the votes marked on paper ballots. Many of the machines jammed over the course of election day, perhaps because Michigan had a two-page ballot this year, which meant that paper ballots were collected but inconsistently recorded by the machines. Michigan does not have early voting, so any mechanical malfunction would necessarily happen on election day, since that's the only day the machines are used. That's why so many machines malfunctioned at the same time. "You don't expect a laptop to last 10 years, and you shouldn't expect a voting machines to last 10 years," says Detroit City Clerk Janice Winfrey.

The errors were found as part of a recount process prompted by losing Green Party candidate for President Jill Stein. The Michigan recount was halted last week after a judge determined that Stein, who has urged recounts in several states, did not qualify as an "aggrieved party" in the election, making her request for a recount invalid. Trump won Michigan by 10,704 votes. "The recount campaign was premised on the notion that we deserve a voting system we can trust," said Dr. Jill Stein in a press call Tuesday about the recount efforts. "No, we do not have a voting system we can trust."

Even if the recount had moved forward, Clinton would have been unlikely to have picked up the state.
 
Religious fervor.
And who said they all came on the same bus?

Who says they weren't residents of New Hampshire? Registration, even on election day, requires proof of residency. You can't just walk in and vote. Not having a New Hampshire license is not proof they weren't.

3) Qualified individuals may also register to vote at the polling place on election day at all elections. You will be asked to show proof of age, citizenship and domicile.

Domicile
New Hampshire driver's license listing the address the voter claims as his/her voting domicile; motor vehicle registration; or government issued photo ID with current address; any other proof accepted as reasonable by the supervisors of the checklist or a domicile affidavit.

Links in earlier post.
 
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Who says they weren't residents of New Hampshire? Registration, even on election day, requires proof of residency. You can't just walk in and vote. Not having a New Hampshire license is not proof they weren't.

It is "evidence" nobody said it was "proof", evidence is what you use to start an investigation, proof is what you use to end one and start a prosecution.
 
No it is the presence of an unusual number of voters with out of state licenses who never got in state licenses.
That is worthy of investigation.

5,000 out of 800,000?

How many are college students who can vote but still have their license from their "home states" (New Hampshire has over 100,000 people enrolled in colleges and universities within the state)? How many recently moved there and had not gotten a New Hampshire one yet?

II. College Student Voting

New Hampshire election law provides college students with a special privilege when determining where they register to vote. A college student in New Hampshire may choose as his/her voting domicile, either the domicile he/she held before entering college or the domicile he/she has established while attending college. New Hampshire law provides the following definition of domicile:

An inhabitant's domicile for voting purposes is that one place where a person, more than any other place, has established a physical presence and manifests an intent to maintain a single continuous presence for domestic, social, and civil purposes relevant to participating in democratic self-government. A person has the right to change domicile at any time, however a mere intention to change domicile in the future does not, of itself, terminate an established domicile before the person actually moves.

Under no circumstances may college students retain two voting domiciles. Like any other citizen, college students have only one voting domicile and may only cast one vote in any election. A student of any institution may lawfully claim domicile for voting purposes in the New Hampshire town or city in which he or she lives while attending such institution of learning if such student’s claim of domicile otherwise meets the requirements of the paragraph above.

If just five percent of those in college or University in New Hampshire voted using an out of state license, that accounts for every one of the "fraudulent" votes. New Hampshire had a 75% voter turnout- one of the highest in the country.

Would five percent of college students having a out of state license be "an unusual number"?
 
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5,000 out of 800,000?

5,313, who used non-N.H. driver’s licenses, had neither a state licenses nor had registered a motor vehicle.

Hillary Clinton defeated Donald Trump in News Hampshire by 2,736 votes.

Democratic Sen. Maggie Hassan defeated incumbent Republican Kelly Ayotte by 1,017 votes.

 
5,000 out of 800,000?

How many are college students who can vote but still have their license from their "home states"? How many recently moved there and had not gotten a New Hampshire one yet?

Please have your boss contact me. I don't think you are up to the task of posting here. Most find your posts offensive.
 
How many are college students who can vote but still have their license from their "home states" (New Hampshire has over 100,000 people enrolled in colleges and universities within the state)? How many recently moved there and had not gotten a New Hampshire one yet?

That is the kind of thing an investigation would determine, along with the question of whether they also voted in their home state.



If just five percent of those in college or University in New Hampshire voted using an out of state license, that accounts for every one of the "fraudulent" votes. New Hampshire had a 75% voter turnout- one of the highest in the country.
Another unusual number.

Would five percent of college students having a out of state license be "an unusual number"?

What percent of college students even voted?

The number is unusual simply because it is so much larger than the margin of victory.
 
Do people get arrested for that? Is it enforced?

I live here.

Yes, they do.

NH aggresively enforces resdidency requirements becasue so many people from Maine and Mass. try to escape taxation.

This is blatant voter fraud, that did not affect my vote for president, but did alter my choice for Senate.

Granted Ayotte was no great shakes, but a cut above Hassan who we just got rid of as governor.
 
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That is the kind of thing an investigation would determine, along with the question of whether they also voted in their home state.




Another unusual number.



What percent of college students even voted?

The number is unusual simply because it is so much larger than the margin of victory.

New Hampshire turnout was in line with their normal voter turnout. They are always among the highest.

voterturnout1998-2014nh.jpg


So to effect the outcome, they somehow had to know what the margin of victory would be and send in the right amount of people do do it (and you are also need to assume that every person who registered to vote with an out of state license was not allowed to vote in New Hampshire- the numbers cited don't show that any of them weren't actually eligible). You CAN vote legally in New Hampshire with ID from another state (provided you can prove residency).
 
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