NFL Star Reggie Bush Gets Conservative On Twitter

[jmdrake]

Wow, $#@!in horse $#@!.. Maybe you should listen to what Kanye says instead of the mainstream media..

Maybe you should quit making stupid assumptions? I listened to what Kanye said, not what the MSM said about what he said. Later he came back and clarified his comments and walked back some of what he initially said. You call that "explaining." Whatever. Kanye was trolling from the start. He could have explained it all the first time. Speaking of explaining, when T.I. asked Kanye "What half of what Trump has done do you like" in response to Kanye's "I only like half of the shit Trump does", Kanye didn't have a real answer.

 

[dannno]

Maybe you should quit being a dumbass and making stupid assumptions? I listened to what Kanye said, not what the MSM said about him. Later he came back and clarified his comments and walked back some of what he initially said. You call that "explaining." Whatever. Kanye was trolling from the start. He could have explained it all the first time. Speaking of explaining, when T.I. asked Kanye "What half of what Trump has done do you like" in response to Kanye's "I only like half of the shit Trump does", Kanye didn't have a real answer.

I guess it's a lot better than "I don't like any of the crap Hillary does"

You're still dead wrong about Kanye.. trolling? Ya.. but not serious? No, he is totally serious.

 

[dannno]

Ummm...that's why I said the Americas and not the British colonies. Reading is fundamental.

No. Listening to what KANYE SAID is fundamental. The 400 years comment came directly from what Candace Owens said, and she was VERY CLEARLY saying 400 years ago to today, that black people are still enslaved today on the Democratic Plantation.

Making things up and pretending you know what other people were saying does not lead to a correct understanding.

 

[jmdrake]

No. Listening to what KANYE SAID is fundamental. The 400 years comment came directly from what Candace Owens said, and she was VERY CLEARLY saying 400 years ago to today, that black people are still enslaved today on the Democratic Plantation.

Making things up and pretending you know what other people were saying does not lead to a correct understanding.

Ummm......wrong. Kanye got the 400 years thing from Lupe Fiasco who used it in a rap years before anyone heard of Candace Owens. And for all you know she got that from Kanye. Just because C.O. used it recently doesn't mean she coined the phrase.

See: https://genius.com/Rap101-lupe-fiasco-all-black-everything-lyrics

And:

 

[jmdrake]

I guess it's a lot better than "I don't like any of the crap Hillary does"

You're still dead wrong about Kanye.. trolling? Ya.. but not serious? No, he is totally serious.

In the TMZ video where he made the 400 year choice comment he clearly said he is not a political thinker, he's just talking from emotion and doesn't have the facts to back up what he's saying. He is about "free thought" and I think that's great. That said, maybe Kanye will grow into the role he just thrust himself into.

 

[jmdrake]

More on when to put the start date for slavery in the Western hemisphere for [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION]. https://genius.com/Rap101-lupe-fiasco-all-black-everything-lyrics And at this point, I'm not 100% sure if Kanye was 100% sure of what he was saying. I'm not saying that as a knock on Kanye. But again, according to his own words, he was speaking more from a position of emotion than anything.

 

[dannno]

Ummm......wrong. Kanye got the 400 years thing from Lupe Fiasco who used it in a rap years before anyone heard of Candace Owens. And for all you know she got that from Kanye. Just because C.O. used it recently doesn't mean she coined the phrase.

See: https://genius.com/Rap101-lupe-fiasco-all-black-everything-lyrics

And:

Um, even with your "proof" that still means you're wrong. Kanye said he liked what Candane Owens said, he didn't say he liked what Lupe Fiasco said, nor does Kanye likely remember one of his older songs.. But even if that is where Candace got it, which may or may not be true, you're still wrong about them starting the clock in the 1400s and ending it in the mid 1800s, 1492 - 1863 is less than 400 years anyway..

 

[jmdrake]

Um, even with your "proof" that still means you're wrong. Kanye said he liked what Candane Owens said, he didn't say he liked what Lupe Fiasco said, nor does Kanye likely remember one of his older songs.. But even if that is where Candace got it, which may or may not be true, you're still wrong about them starting the clock in the 1400s and ending it in the mid 1800s, 1492 - 1863 is less than 400 years anyway..

Actually I went back and watched it. Candace Owens didn't say what you think she said. Watch it again for yourself.



"400 years of slavery. Jim Crowe. It's embarrassing. And by the way none of you lived through that. Your grandparents lived through that."

So, dannno, use your brain. If Candace Owens was talking about 400 years from 1619 to 2019, why did she say "None of you lived through that. Your grandparents lived that?" That is an illogical interpretation of what she said. Follow the progression, if you can. Slavery (400 years), Jim Crowe, now. So, I was right all along.

 

[dannno]

Actually I went back and watched it. Candace Owens didn't say what you think she said. Watch it again for yourself.



"400 years of slavery. Jim Crowe. It's embarrassing. And by the way none of you lived through that. Your grandparents lived through that."

So, dannno, use your brain. If Candace Owens was talking about 400 years from 1619 to 2019, why did she say "None of you lived through that. Your grandparents lived that?" That is an illogical interpretation of what she said. Follow the progression, if you can. Slavery (400 years), Jim Crowe, now. So, I was right all along.

"The reason why I brought up the 400 years point is because we can't be mentally imprisoned for another 400 years," he added. "We need free thought now. Even the statement was an example of free thought. It was just an idea." -Kanye West

I still don't see you proving your point about Kanye being serious or not.

"Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will" -Kanye West

This isn't difficult. Kanye doesn't like that black people have a victim mentality. Democrats encourage the victim mentality, conservatives tend to say work hard and pull yourself up, we live in a free country, the sky is the limit. Why is it so hard for you to understand why he is coming out like this?

 

[jmdrake]

"The reason why I brought up the 400 years point is because we can't be mentally imprisoned for another 400 years," he added. "We need free thought now. Even the statement was an example of free thought. It was just an idea." -Kanye West

I still don't see you proving your point about Kanye being serious or not.

"Of course I know that slaves did not get shackled and put on a boat by free will" -Kanye West

This isn't difficult. Kanye doesn't like that black people have a victim mentality. Democrats encourage the victim mentality, conservatives tend to say work hard and pull yourself up, we live in a free country, the sky is the limit. Why is it so hard for you to understand why he is coming out like this?

I've proven my point that Candace Owens was talking about 400 years of slavery and not 200 years of slavery followed by 200 years of "mental enslavement." You said Kanye was taking what he was saying from her. So based on what you said, I have proven my point. I don't expect you to be honest enough to admit that though. Now if you take what Candace Owens actually said, as opposed to the words you put in her mouth, and take that with what Kanye said about mental enslavement, the only rational interpretation that takes what both of them said into account is that there was 400 years of physical slavery and there's no need to continue mental enslavement for 400 years after the physical slavery ended. Further if you look at what Kanye said about how if he was in Nat Turner's time he would have chosen to rebel instead of choosing to remain a slave, it's clear, to any rational and honest person, that Kanye was referring to physical slavery being a choice. Not when you're in the boat in chains, but later when you are on the plantation. You can choose to go along with slavery and have your best chance at survival or you can choose to fight back and have your best chance at freedom. Now I'm sure you will continue to believe you are right just like you will continue to believe that Trump isn't an adulterer and that's just "made up by the media" even though Trump admitted that. You can believe whatever irrational thought it is you wish to believe.

 

[Danke]

 

[Gumba of Liberty]

Reggie Bush was being serious. Kayne is trolling. Slavery a choice? If it was a choice then why wasn't Dred Scott freed when he told the Supreme Court "I choose not to be a slave anymore?"

It's not hard to find a black person who makes over 6 figures who doesn't like the IRS. Ummm.....Wesley Snipes anyone? How about David Chappelle?

If conservatives actually want to make headway with blacks, talk taxes and government waste. Talk about how much is wasted on military spending and big government contracts. Don't try to re-write history like Kanye.

Slavery is a choice. You can be conditioned to believe it is not but you always have the option to RESIST your oppressors. Live Free or Die.

 

[dannno]

I've proven my point that Candace Owens was talking about 400 years of slavery and not 200 years of slavery followed by 200 years of "mental enslavement." You said Kanye was taking what he was saying from her. So based on what you said, I have proven my point. I don't expect you to be honest enough to admit that though. Now if you take what Candace Owens actually said, as opposed to the words you put in her mouth, and take that with what Kanye said about mental enslavement, the only rational interpretation that takes what both of them said into account is that there was 400 years of physical slavery and there's no need to continue mental enslavement for 400 years after the physical slavery ended. Further if you look at what Kanye said about how if he was in Nat Turner's time he would have chosen to rebel instead of choosing to remain a slave, it's clear, to any rational and honest person, that Kanye was referring to physical slavery being a choice. Not when you're in the boat in chains, but later when you are on the plantation. You can choose to go along with slavery and have your best chance at survival or you can choose to fight back and have your best chance at freedom. Now I'm sure you will continue to believe you are right just like you will continue to believe that Trump isn't an adulterer and that's just "made up by the media" even though Trump admitted that. You can believe whatever irrational thought it is you wish to believe.

It was 400 years of slavery + jim crow (for Candace, in that instance you posted), for reference.

You still have Kanye's shit all wrong, you are literally contradicting what he has said, and you aren't even trying to understand what he is saying.. It's very simple he wants the victim mentality to stop. Why it is so hard for you to understand what he is saying, and instead make up your own bullshit that he directly contradicted is beyond me.

 

[jmdrake]

Slavery is a choice. You can be conditioned to believe it is not but you always have the option to RESIST your oppressors. Live Free or Die.

Kanye came back later and clarified his comments to say "I know that people didn't choose to get put on boats and brought over as slaves." And he later added in the "I would be with Nat Turner" argument that goes along with what you are saying. But initially he just flung it out there. In the same interview he stated "I'm all about emotion. I don't have any facts." By definition that is trolling. Wading into an intellectual argument without factual underpinnings and throwing of inflamatory statements just off of "emotion" is, by definition (mine anyway), trolling. Now if [MENTION=10908]dannno[/MENTION] wasn't so full of himself and actually watched the Lupe Fiasco video I posted when I proved what he was claiming regarding what Kanye was saying about 400 years was totally wrong, he would see that Lupe made the exact "You can choose to resist slavery" argument that you are making in defense of Kanye. But Kanye didn't initially make that argument. Again, watch the entire TMZ video. Kanye said "I'm about emotion and free thought. Candace Owens has the facts."

 

[jmdrake]

It was 400 years of slavery + jim crow (for Candace, in that instance you posted), for reference.

You left out the most important part of what she said. She said "And that what your grandparents lived through. That's not what you lived through." So any intelligent person knows she counting the 400 years of slavery going through to today. So just admit it. You were wrong. It's okay.

You still have Kanye's $#@! all wrong, you are literally contradicting what he has said, and you aren't even trying to understand what he is saying.

You haven't even watched the entire TMZ video have you? Kanye literally said "I don't have any facts. I am just going off of emotion." And you are so arrogant and full of yourself that you didn't even click on the links I gave you from Lupe. In those links Lupe actually defended the idea of slavery being a choice, but he wasn't talking about modern "mental slavery" but on slave uprisings when slavery actually was going on including the only truly successful one which happened in Haiti. Lupe actually has the factual underpinnings, which Kanye admits he does not have, to carry out an actual conversation on the issue, and not just throw out emotional catch phrases to see what happens.

Oh yeah, in his latest song, Kanye praises both Obama and Trump. "Obama was heaven sent. But Trump makes me believe I can be president." If Hillary had somehow won he might be praising her too. In contrast, in his rap "Words I never said", Lupe disses both Bush "I think the war on terror is a bunch of bullshyt 9/11 building 7 did you really pull it" and Obama "Gaza was getting bombed and Obama didn't say shyt that's why I didn't vote for him, next time either."

It's very simple he wants the victim mentality to stop. Why it is so hard for you to understand what he is saying, and instead make up your own bull$#@! that he directly contradicted is beyond me.

FFS Dannno! I AM DIRECTLY QUOTING KANYE WEST WHERE HE SAYS "I HAVE NO FACTS! I AM GOING OFF OF EMOTION! How stupid do you have to be to call that "making up your own bullshyt" when I AM THE ONLY ONE DIRECTLY QUOTING THE MAN? You are one making up stuff! You totally made up the "Kanye was talking about 400 years from 1619 to present" when Kanye didn't say that and neither did Candace Owens.

 

[dannno]

You totally made up the "Kanye was talking about 400 years from 1619 to present" when Kanye didn't say that and neither did Candace Owens.

I already posted the quote where he said he had been 400 years, and he didn't want it to be another 400. What does that mean to you?

 

[jmdrake]

I already posted the quote where he said he had been 400 years, and he didn't want it to be another 400. What does that mean to you?

Reading is fundamental. A copy and paste of what I already told you.

Now if you take what Candace Owens actually said, as opposed to the words you put in her mouth, and take that with what Kanye said about mental enslavement, the only rational interpretation that takes what both of them said into account is that there was 400 years of physical slavery and there's no need to continue mental enslavement for 400 years after the physical slavery ended.

Again, based on what you said, Kanye was channeling Candace Owens. And based on what Candace Owens said, she was talking about a slavery period that ended before the people she was talking to were born. So Kanye called that slavery period a choice. And when he later clarified that first slavery period, he stated "I would have rebelled with Nat Turner" which means he was calling the physical slavery period a choice. Not a choice to get put on the boat in chains (he made that later clarification), but a choice later when slaves were living on the plantation to either go along and live or rebel and most likely die...at least until the white people ran out of bullets or got caught and killed trying to reload like the Zulus did the British in their one major victory over them.

 

[dannno]

Reading is fundamental. A copy and paste of what I already told you.

Now if you take what Candace Owens actually said, as opposed to the words you put in her mouth, and take that with what Kanye said about mental enslavement, the only rational interpretation that takes what both of them said into account is that there was 400 years of physical slavery and there's no need to continue mental enslavement for 400 years after the physical slavery ended.

Again, based on what you said, Kanye was channeling Candace Owens. And based on what Candace Owens said, she was talking about a slavery period that ended before the people she was talking to were born. So Kanye called that slavery period a choice. And when he later clarified that first slavery period, he stated "I would have rebelled with Nat Turner" which means he was calling the physical slavery period a choice. Not a choice to get put on the boat in chains (he made that later clarification), but a choice later when slaves were living on the plantation to either go along and live or rebel and most likely die...at least until the white people ran out of bullets or got caught and killed trying to reload like the Zulus did the British in their one major victory over them.

But he also said the mental slavery still exists, it existed before and he doesn't want it to go on for another 400 years. So even though he heard the Candance Owens interview and heard the 400 year comment, he was using it in a slightly different context here.

It's important to take all of his statements in whole all at once, not pick apart things the way you want to that flies in the face of everything else he said.

 

[jmdrake]

But he also said the mental slavery still exists, it existed before and he doesn't want it to go on for another 400 years.

I addressed that. Again reading in fundamental. I never said Kanye didn't say there was mental slavery. But that's not what he was initially referring to when he talked about the 400 years of slavery being a "choice." Again, in his clarification, he said if he could go back to the time of Nat Turner he would have made the choice to rebel. Do you not understand that the Nat Turner rebellion happened during the period of physical slavery? His own clarification of his slavery comment proves me right. You just don't want to admit you were wrong on this. It's okay dannno. We all make mistakes.

 

[dannno]

But that's not what he was initially referring to when he talked about the 400 years of slavery being a "choice."

Yes it was, that is precisely what his statement clarifying what he meant said. It's funny how YOU think YOU know what he meant when HE said he meant something else. I will take his word about what he meant over your lame MSM interpretation.

It's like when Trumps said you have to take out their families and all these people said he meant you have to kill a terrorist's 1 year old niece or some shit, when later he clarified that isn't what he meant.

You are playing the MSM game of putting words and thoughts into other people's mouths and it's really annoying and really deceptive and dishonest and manipulative. You need to stop.