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If I were better with words, I'd have put it like that ^^^
NFL HELL: Owners/TV networks face mounting losses as Trump called boycotts spread
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If I were better with words, I'd have put it like that ^^^
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I call BS on the entire premise of the thread
Prior to the start of the 2017 season there were boycotts being launched because Kaepernick didn't have a job after he refused to stand last season. Those protests are still going on. So there is no way to tell which protests are causing the NFL to lose viewers.
Prior to the start of the 2017 season there were boycotts being launched because Kaepernick didn't have a job after he refused to stand last season. Those protests are still going on. So there is no way to tell which protests are causing the NFL to lose viewers.
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They lost me about the time Joe Namath went on the Tee-Vee in pantyhose.
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LOL. I'm not going to admit to being old enough to remember that.
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...great writing/thinking...it seems only a republican-radio-level cheerleader [certainly no true 'liberty lover'] would/could quibble...
...true 'liberty lovers' understand that the stinking war on drugs--supported strongly by most/all republican-radio-levelers--has been one of the worst pieces of public polic(e)y ever conceived...the stinking authoritarian republican-radio-level 'drug war' is a big factor contributing to the degradation of 'inner cities'...but imo, the biggest factor is the stinking rotten insane monetary order NEVER honestly understood by the typical loud republicrat flag-waving fool...these pathetic fascist republicrat cheerleaders are part of the LARGE ignorant class referred to by one smart wag:[FONT=q_serif] "It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."[/FONT]
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Because these people are not protesting a real problem. 80% of the league is black. About 21% of the league are criminals. They are oppressed? They face injustice? More like they are entitled and cause injustice. Ask their wives and girlfriends.
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Hahaha I remember that.
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Do they really not want to be part of oppression regimes and are standing up for human rights & justice or this is part of media supported showboating events campaign (like DGP Obama's hypocritical "if I had a son" publicity stunt hypocrisy drama)? Ofcourse there was no "if I had a sister" speech after unarmed black mother Miriam Carey was executed by elite DC cops at the foot steps of Obama White House with her baby daughter sitting besides her in passenger seat after she had taken a wrong traffic turn . Ofcourse there were no kneelings sighted as Congress gave standing ovation to elite DC cops and lawyer of Miriam's family was promptly arrested day after he went on TV to talk of seeking justice.
Maybe it's not just racial, skin color, tribal affiliation/identity based media neocons sponsored publicity event, but there can be plausible reasons to doubt the real political agenda of puppet masters behind such a campaign. Will media have same stance towards kneelers/Trump if Trump had not cut off support for ISIS in Syria that he had accused Obama of founding fathering?
Quite a few of these human rights activists were supporting disgraced dronegangsta till the end of his regime who was puppet/public relationing officer of some of the most oppressive, violence engineeering, police state reinforcing lobbies in the world.
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Lol - I just think it's funny how easily the public is manipulated. Free market forces at work?? Yeah, maybe. But the people who are making these individual decisions have absolutely zero idea about how they're being used.
I like the game of football and enjoy watching it. If you don't, then don't watch. But to alter your behavior because someone is raising the temperature to frighten all the snowflakes??? Come on. I've said it before that if I were to boycott everything that offended me in some way, I'd never go outside the house! I'm offended by the state. I'm offended by the companies that the state uses to do their bidding. I'm offended by companies that use the government to do their bidding. That is the real offense.
Watch, don't watch. I don't care. But don't think you've claimed any sort of moral superiority - you've just signaled yourself as a tool.
Same thing for standing. Stand up, sit down, roll around on the ground, do the worm... I don't care. Just make good plays. And criminal records?? Can we start with Congress, please? If the players are convicted of a crime, they should do the time. If they're still able to play afterwards, great! But it's wealth and fame that gets these people off - which is much larger than football. If you're really outraged by wealthy celebrities not facing justice, you need to boycott Sports, Hollywood, Television, Politics, and nearly all corporations, too. Don't be so easily cajoled.
I like the game of football and enjoy watching it. If you don't, then don't watch. But to alter your behavior because someone is raising the temperature to frighten all the snowflakes??? Come on. I've said it before that if I were to boycott everything that offended me in some way, I'd never go outside the house! I'm offended by the state. I'm offended by the companies that the state uses to do their bidding. I'm offended by companies that use the government to do their bidding. That is the real offense.
Watch, don't watch. I don't care. But don't think you've claimed any sort of moral superiority - you've just signaled yourself as a tool.
Same thing for standing. Stand up, sit down, roll around on the ground, do the worm... I don't care. Just make good plays. And criminal records?? Can we start with Congress, please? If the players are convicted of a crime, they should do the time. If they're still able to play afterwards, great! But it's wealth and fame that gets these people off - which is much larger than football. If you're really outraged by wealthy celebrities not facing justice, you need to boycott Sports, Hollywood, Television, Politics, and nearly all corporations, too. Don't be so easily cajoled.
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I don't think anyone is claiming moral high ground. I am a little tire of underperforming prima donas acting like they need to make a statement about something not based in actual fact. If they want to make statements, do so on the facts, and do something meaningful.
But the NFL has not dealt with problems in the league. Now they are losing fans. Tickets, viewers, and merchandising are all down. It's a basic market principle. Don't pi$$ off the people who pay the bills.
But the NFL has not dealt with problems in the league. Now they are losing fans. Tickets, viewers, and merchandising are all down. It's a basic market principle. Don't pi$$ off the people who pay the bills.
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I am angry (seething, fulminating, pulling my hair out, white hot rage guy) because this "movement" or whatever you want to call it, took the issue of the expanding police state, police abuse, the Circular Force Continuum, asset forfeiture, cops killing dogs, grenading kids and SWATting old men and proceeded to, through a painful to watch, reductio ad absurdum of racial and identity politics, turn the whole issue into a black vs. white matter, thus destroying any hope of actually making any progress, right when it looked like "mainstream AmeriKa" might actually have been starting to pay attention.
Got stopped by a cop while driving a company truck the other day.
After the brief and non-citation issuing incident was over, black guy in the back piped up with: "Huh, lucky a white man was driving, if it had been me, I would have got shot."
I unloaded on the dude and proceeded to let him know, in no uncertain terms, how I was just as likely, even more likely, to get shot and that he better get to understanding that this is not black vs white it is blue vs. us.
Since this dude has a chip on his shoulder about race and white people, I fully expect to be brought up on "charges" before the HR people for dressing him down in front of everybody like I did.
How much money they make has nothing to do with it, nor does it matter to me whether they sit, stand or do the hokey pokey while the national anthem is playing.
Actually I hope they keep it up, because I have disliked the rent seeking, government teat suckling, NFL for years now anyway.
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This has been the problem with these asshats from the start. Just when people seem to be waking up to the fact that the police just might be a little out of line and trampling everyone's rights at will a bunch of race baiting race pimps turn it into an "us against them" issue.
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Ah, if that's all it was, I'd be with you. But that's not what's going on here. Now it's, "Don't give powerful people a reason to use you as a distraction to get people pissed at you."
I'm all for the market dictating things. But I much prefer a natural process. I certainly don't like government putting a finger on the scale, but I also don't like the powerful using the media to put a finger on the scale.
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Exactly. Although, it is an "us against them" issue. It's just that the "us" is the citizenry and the "them" is the State.
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I don't think all police are bad and I don't think they all wake up deciding to harm people. I also don't think all police incidents are accidents. I don't think we can broad brush all police officers and police departments and say this is a blue issue.
Like everything else, I think there are places where political correctness is running the show, and those are the forces we really can't see. Equal protection under the law has to be the rule.
Like everything else, I think there are places where political correctness is running the show, and those are the forces we really can't see. Equal protection under the law has to be the rule.
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Count me the odd duck, I'll not stand with blacks or kops, they can all collectively kiss my hillbilly ass.
And the foo-ball players too!
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Count me the odd duck, I'll not stand with blacks or kops, they can all collectively kiss my hillbilly ass.
And the foo-ball players too!
Men in tights....
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