New Zealand Terror Attack: Australian gunman shoots dead several people in Christchurch mosque

[dannno]

Riiiiiiight.

Ok, how do you explain the fucked up video that is obviously isn't real? Your argument is that they are showing funerals on tv, so the video has to be real, even if every indication from looking at the video is that it is not? That is the most retarded shit on the forum right now.

Funerals on tv doesn't make an obviously fake video real.

Let's assume the video is completely fake, as it appears to be, what is your explanation? What do YOU think they are doing at the funerals?

 

[Superfluous Man]

Ok, how do you explain the $#@!ed up video that is obviously isn't real? Your argument is that they are showing funerals on tv, so the video has to be real, even if every indication from looking at the video is that it is not? That is the most retarded $#@! on the forum right now.

Funerals on tv doesn't make an obviously fake video real.

Let's assume the video is completely fake, as it appears to be, what is your explanation? What do YOU think they are doing at the funerals?

I haven't seen the video. But the sources of the claim that it's fake are not ones that engender enough confidence to bother wasting my time watching it. Seeing people getting killed isn't my thing. The way you posted that photoshopped picture of Biden in the other thread doesn't make me think you know fake when you see it.

It's not just funerals being shown on TV. This is a real mosque in a real community, full of real people, including coworkers, neighbors, and others who know people who attend that mosque. What do you think, that all the conversations there about what happened that everyone is having with those people involved them all saying, "Yeah, well, fortunately I wasn't there when it happened, and I don't know any of the victims, and none of the people I know from the mosque know any of them either"? Their newspaper is full of obituaries for people that never existed and nobody there actually knew?

 

[dannno]

What do you think, that all the conversations there about what happened that everyone is having with those people involved them all saying, "Yeah, well, fortunately I wasn't there when it happened, and I don't know any of the victims, and none of the people I know from the mosque know any of them either"? Their newspaper is full of obituaries for people that never existed and nobody there actually knew?

Read each of my options and see if they all fit into that category. Hint: they do not.

Also there has been plenty of screenshots and animated gifs posted that call into question the authenticity of the video.

But my point is, when somebody says the video is fake, saying, "but I saw funerals on TV" is a retarded argument. Can you at least admit that? Maybe the video was fake, but all the people actually died. Thus the funerals are real, it's just the video that is fake. Maybe it was less people than what they said who died, but enough to put funerals on tv. Or maybe nobody died. Who knows? I'm not saying I know what happened you are the one saying you know precisely what happened. The dumbest thing in the world to think is to say that you know precisely what happened on an island on the other side of the planet. But when what they claimed happened is easily called into question, and they are trying to use what happened to take our rights, it is important to point out the problematic aspects of their claims. You are abdicating your role in protecting liberty.

 

[Swordsmyth]

Read each of my options and see if they all fit into that category. Hint: they do not.

Also there has been plenty of screenshots and animated gifs posted that call into question the authenticity of the video.

But my point is, when somebody says the video is fake, saying, "but I saw funerals on TV" is a retarded argument. Can you at least admit that? Maybe the video was fake, but all the people actually died. Thus the funerals are real, it's just the video that is fake. Maybe it was less people than what they said who died, but enough to put funerals on tv. Or maybe nobody died. Who knows? I'm not saying I know what happened you are the one saying you know precisely what happened. The dumbest thing in the world to think is to say that you know precisely what happened on an island on the other side of the planet. But when what they claimed happened is easily called into question, and they are trying to use what happened to take our rights, it is important to point that out. You are abdicating your role in protecting liberty.

Is that his role?

 

[timosman]

Is that his role?

Hmmm.... Let's check.. It says here .... Ideological subversion ..... Does anybody know what it means?

 

[Swordsmyth]

New Zealand Police begin showing up cataloging, and in some cases seizing weapons

 

[Swordsmyth]

Hmmm.... Let's check.. It says here .... Ideological subversion ..... Does anybody know what it means?

 

[DamianTV]

I have always found that part of the video rather questionable why is there no blood anywhere near the victims? i find it rather amusing how they are trying to censor the video. Maybe the reason they are trying to censor the video is not because of the victims but maybe because they want conspiracy theorists to question their official narrative.

And the shooter never missed? No bullet holes in the wall anywhere?

 

[Swordsmyth]

New Zealand gangs say they will not give up their guns.

 

[Swordsmyth]

[h=5]New Zealand Semiautomatic Ban Covers Pump Shotguns Too[/h]

 

[Influenza]

Have you never seen shootings and blood in the movies?
Am I the only one to have seen amazing computer animated special effects in the movies (that look more convincing to me than this awful mess)?

Look carefully at the fellow with the dark clothes with both hands clasped in his lap in front of the bright blue...
The upper part of his face is “missing”.


This is also strange, after Brenton Tarrant has already been shooting, for some reason he goes to the hallway to reload.
When he gets back into the large room, at 6:53, there are 2 Muslims standing, waiting to get shot?!?


Maybe I´m trying too much to find “suspicious” things. I noticed that most of the bodies in the mosque, wear dark colours.
On Friday, I regularly see Muslims in some traditional looking, religious clothing that is often coloured white, light brown, beige. See for example the following Muslims protesting in New Zealand.

So it's difficult to see one person's head at a certain angle in the video, therefore it's fake? You can't distinguish people's faces, because the quality of the video is pretty low... obviously.

The people in the mosque aren't mostly wearing white, therefore it's fake? As a former muslim who has been to many different mosques hundreds of times, people wear all types of clothing. Some wear western clothes, some wear traditional clothes, whatever.

Your "timeline" of events is totally wrong btw. At 6:53 that was the first time he is entering the main room, he was not "going back to the room" as you falsely stated.

We have 15 minutes of flawless footage depicting the murder of dozens and dozens of inviduals, and you point to a handful of instances where you can't see clearly what's going on due to low camera resolution and camera perspective. This event happened, you have to be a complete retard to continue denying it.

 

[AZJoe]

 

[timosman]

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1106650637461266433

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1106655208107577347

https://twitter.com/sahouraxo/status/1106662383659991041

 

[Firestarter]

I haven't seen the video. But the sources of the claim that it's fake are not ones that engender enough confidence to bother wasting my time watching it. Seeing people getting killed isn't my thing.

Why don't you stop wasting everybody's time by posting when you haven't even bothered to look at the computer animated nonsense that's being sold for real?

So it's difficult to see one person's head at a certain angle in the video, therefore it's fake? You can't distinguish people's faces, because the quality of the video is pretty low... obviously.

We have 15 minutes of flawless footage depicting the murder of dozens and dozens of inviduals, and you point to a handful of instances where you can't see clearly what's going on due to low camera resolution and camera perspective. This event happened, you have to be a complete retard to continue denying it.

Flawless you say!
If somebody makes a video with the cheapest camera you can find these days, it wouldn't look as ridiculous as this video. Have you even bothered to watch the video or are you simply spreading propaganda that it must be "real" because our wonderful media tell us?
You're obviously no "retard" but a really, really smart fool that believes everything he sees.

Your "timeline" of events is totally wrong btw. At 6:53 that was the first time he is entering the main room, he was not "going back to the room" as you falsely stated.

Great you caught me in a mistake.
I'm sort of frustrated at the immense time it takes to analyse a mere 17 minutes, and have some motivational problems as I don't think that enough folks will ever find out what really happened as our media, including the internet, is under strict control of the same psychopaths that orchestrate these psy-ops...

 

[Firestarter]

Any fool knows that fire escapes are well marked and easily opened in case of an emergency...
According to the official story some Muslims tried to escape from the shooting through the fire exit, but couldn’t open it, so instead had to break the glass door to crawl out.

Supposedly on Thursday, one day before the shooting, an electrician tested a new electric locking system and disengaged it for Friday prayers. To open the door, somebody needed to turn a lever.
If it wasn’t for the cool weather on 15 March, the door would have been wide open as usual: “On any other Friday, the door would be open. But on this Friday, nobody opened that door”: https://www.apnews.com/c538824572a64537b003ec8c917d9a2b

 

[PursuePeace]

Doesn't the poor quality of the video have something to do with it being livestreamed? No?
I'm just asking, I have no idea.

 

[ATruepatriot]

Doesn't the poor quality of the video have something to do with it being livestreamed? No?
I'm just asking, I have no idea.

Yes it does... It is digital, digital does not like anything moving fast, it can't fully capture it all. Film would, but this is not film. Totally different critters when it comes to "frame by frame" playback.

I downloaded this and have looked at it 30 times. The spraying of body matter from the bullet impacts cannot be reproduced, It's real.

 

[Influenza]

Doesn't the poor quality of the video have something to do with it being livestreamed? No?
I'm just asking, I have no idea.

Yep, exactly. For example, when I facetime with my family, the quality of the picture is far worse than what it would be if I simply filmed my face and shared an uncompressed file that way. It is totally normal and expected that the quality of the livestream video is quite poor.

 

[Firestarter]

Doesn't the poor quality of the video have something to do with it being livestreamed? No?

Sending video footage by radiowaves is nothing “new”. Reportedly from 1969-1972 video footage was sent to earth from hundreds of thousands miles away. If this technology was available 50 years ago, transmitting video through the air over a relatively short distance these days is a piece of cake...


The following CCTV video footage has been released (looks better than the body cam). This video isn’t continuous but shows short clips.
It shows a father (dressed in light colours) and son on their way to the mosque. They return after a total of 3 shots are fired...

At 1:21 in this video the shooter beeps his horn before firing the fourth shot that injures the father (who for some reason didn´t take cover).
There is a long delay between seeing the shot and hearing it.

Here´s an alternative spot to see the animated shooting video in all ugliness: https://videos.files.wordpress.com/AHg7RSw6/new-zealander-shoots-up-mosque-march-15th-2019-1_hd.mp4

After he gets in his car, Tarrant shoots several times through the windows – 3 times from 12:49 to 13:11.
The windshield doesn’t shatter and the holes in the glass can’t be seen.

At 13:20 – a fourth shot through the left, side window, which shatters (1:21 in the previous CCTV video).
In the bodycam video, Tarrant doesn’t beep his horn.

 

[AngryCanadian]

Muslim prayer at Anzac Day service upsets RSA veterans

Winston Peters told an umbrella organisation of Muslim nations in Turkey that NZ would work to protect its Muslim community and confront the use of social media to "spread vile hate."

This is getting from bad to worse in NZ.