NEW STRATEGY: Stay away from the war issue, stress "TRUE CONSERVATISM"

I think he can do both - in a way that Americans will stand up and cheer for. I got inspired listening to Levin tonight...

Oh man, I'm going to be up late tonight...

:) rubs palms together...
 
No. We aren't going to win in the GOP. We are polling 6% with them and 11 or more % as an independent (that's with nobody knowing who he is). More anti-war stuff and go iNDY.
 
true conservatives must be anti war. All those things you just listed are only possible in times of peace.
 
I fear that this Strategy might be to little to late There is a possibilty but its gonna be much harder then it would of if they did this early on when we had the MSM attention on the first money bomb, way back then would of been the perfect time to Use this strategy to nuke the other candidates into the abyss and win the base's support with RP just "toning the controversial iraq stance" down a little I mean that issue is way to divisive to put all your apples in that basket especially doing that in the Repub nominations you gotta win them on it much later on when you have locked in there support . And again he wouldn't have to censor himself about it he could just tone the divisive rhetoric down a little. I love it When Ron Talks Blunt truth about iraq but like I said this aint about one selfish issue were we can all say "told ya so" we need to realize that there is somehting much more bigger at stake.. RP Could have his cake and eat it to with this strategy..

And I dont know what Kinda stuff the RP campaign people have been smoking not to understand this Again its a tough sell for a Heroin dealer to try and get a pothead to shoot heroin with him ,its just as tough selling the RP iraq stance to modern day base average joesixpack republicans LOL!!!!!!!
 
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colecrowe said:
No. We aren't going to win in the GOP. We are polling 6% with them and 11 or more % as an independent (that's with nobody knowing who he is). More anti-war stuff and go iNDY.
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That is not going to happen. Ron Paul is in this for the LONG TERM good of the country and knows that running as an independent could jeopardize that. I used to want him to run indy to but the more I thought about it the more i could see why he wouldnt. The quicker we realize its Rep. or nothing the better.
 
I agree, but only up until the GOP convention. After that it is the anti-war stance that beats Obama or Clinton.
 
utrunner07 said:
That is not going to happen. Ron Paul is in this for the LONG TERM good of the country and knows that running as an independent could jeopardize that. I used to want him to run indy to but the more I thought about it the more i could see why he wouldnt. The quicker we realize its Rep. or nothing the better.
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good points And actually if Ron Paul really becomes "the gold standard" for the republican party then all the libertarian indy's and constitutinal indy will finnaly have a chance to come back to the GOP again , The modern day GOP needs a major surgical op and DR.Paul is the doctor who needs to perform the surgery on it LOL!!!!!!! Untill the system makes it easier for third party's to have any real chance there has to be a haven for those indy for the time being and thats the GOP for now . Even Ron Paul has run third party and he has come to state on many occasions that the system is created in a way that its very hard for a third party to even have legs let alone a body mass unless your some Billionaire Pop Cuture icon you just wont even come close to anything...

If Paul loses the nomination I would want him to run third party just to stick it to the bums LOL!!!!! But I wouldnt be upset if he didnt bother Poor guy must not of even had a good nites sleep in a long time:(
 
Who the fuck 1-starred this. You can't just flip a switch making conservatives turn anti-war after 8 years of brainwashing. Sell Paul on everything he stands for, and ease the war issue. Take it from a previously pro-war sheep, you can't fully understand why the Bush foreign policy is fucked until you fully understand Paul's liberty principle.
 
Great Poine cheese its sad that RP handlers in his campaign didnt have the Brains or wit to understand that trying to get modern repubs to become Anti-war at the flip of the switch as you said is exactly what im saying with the heroin dealer trying to get the pothead to shoot heroin with him ITS A TOUGH FREAKIN SELL LOL!!!!!!!

This Thread seems to be attracting very smart views on understanding why RP has failed to gain the support he needed to win the Republican nomination . Alot of people seem to ignore that todays Republican party has been molested and brainwashed by Troskyist neo-cons for 8 years it took an attack like 9/11 to get the modern day repub voters to suport "nation building" its gonna take swift strategy to win these good folks back again to the goldwater ways from there current paranoia and confusion ..

again dont throw the baby out with the bath water. Just cause someone is as cheese says a "pro-war sheep" as he once was doesnt mean we gotta "scorn them with I told you so" just ease them into the mold again without alot of "forceful divisive" rhetoric ..
 
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To the orignal poster, you are 100% correct. I think the most R. Paul should ever say is we need to draw dawn our foreign commitments significantly and work on accomplishing our goals in Iraq and a strong and timely manner....
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Very well said.

This is one of THE main things that Ron is lacking in my opinion. Romney, McSongbird, Hil, & Obama have armies of "wordsmiths" telling them how to phrase stuff like this and in the soundbite culture that we unfortunately live in, it clearly works.
 
exomniac said:
I guess Im alone on this. Ron converted me to anti-war because he makes the point that the reason we have a crumbling nation is because of the war. It is THE ROOT ISSUE that effects our nations foreign policy, economic stability and our national security.
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I agree that we should not be ashamed of his anti-war message, and the war does need to be spoken out against. However, the time is ripe to get the neo-connish "true conservative" base, so to speak, and we must strike while the iron is hot.
 
spudea said:
true conservatives must be anti war. All those things you just listed are only possible in times of peace.
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I realize this, and you realize this, but the sheeple neoconservatives who still consider themselves conservatives do not.
 
coffeewithchess said:
Yea, RP can preach having a STRONG NATIONAL DEFENSE without mentioning removing the troops from Iraq.
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He does not need to skirt around the Iraq issue. He simply needs to reassure people that he is THE conservative candidate, and the easiest way to do this it to expose the others in contrast to himself.

Show his strong record on immigration while showing John McCain's weak record on immigration.

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yep Ron Paul doesnt need to skirt anything he just needs to stay away from sounding to much like the "I told you so" Guy about iraq just needs to spend his time on stuff like the previous poster said about how McCain is a leftist radical when he introduced his amnesty bill and also on his Global warming peddling hysteria which wil evolve into a Global UN loving Carbon tax for everyone to pay in the future.
 
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