NEW STRATEGY: Stay away from the war issue, stress "TRUE CONSERVATISM"

[krott5333]

This is what we need to be pushing at this point in time, as real conservatives how no where else to turn.

I think we should stay away from the war issue for now, and stress "TRUE CONSERVATISM".

Real conservatives can't possibly vote for McCain, and they don't really like Huckabee either. Now is the time to canvass heavily, and push Ron Paul's TRUE CONSERVATISM.

-Less Government
-Less Regulation
-Free Markets
-Strongest supporter of the Constitution and the 2nd amendment
-Less Taxes
-Less Red Tape!
-Strong on Border Security, and NO AMNESTY!
-Strong Economy

Think like the typical voter thinks. Its becoming more clear to me every day how we can tailor our message without pandering, and the media itself has admitted that real conservatives are confused about whom they should be supporting.

Its time to tell them!

Good luck!

-Patrick Krott

 

[Santana28]

YES - and emphasize that Ron Paul is the ONLY one we can trust to deal with the issue of Illegal Immigration. This is the key to victory. we need MONEY for an advertising blitz - nationwide.

 

[nodope0695]

Very smart advise...I find alot of war hawks out there who believe we're really at risk from Islamofascists taking away our freedoms. Ironic that the fascist extremists trying take away our freedom work in a big white domed building in Washington D.C.

 

[Bruno]

Stress sound economic policy, and avoid mentioning the gold standard. Instead, focus on how the money is tied to oil.

 

[Smiley Gladhands]

Yep...bump.

 

[Trigonx]

Absolutely. Always talk about the economy because it affects EVERYONE.

 

[Ex Post Facto]

I posted another thread on this. If we speak to Ron Pauls issues we can convert people. don't represent yourself as a Ron Paul supporter. Talk about the issues and being a conservative. Mention Ron Paul but not until you've talked about the issues.

 

[itsnobody]

great plan, this will get us a lot more votes...

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

I agree to stress (domestic) conservatism for the primary but you have good answers on terrorism if necessary:

Stop using the opponent’s frame and stop trying the losing battle of defending why RP is less.

RP provides more of everything good; more defense, more security, more intelligence.

• RP provides the best military. All the others weaken our military.
• RP provides the best national security. All the others weaken our security.
• RP provides the best intelligence. All the others weaken our intelligence.
• RP provides the best foreign policy. All the others weaken our foreign policy.

Ron Paul’s strong foreign policy:

• Keep an unbeatable military.
• Uphold the Constitution and US sovereignty: Declare the war, fight it, win it, and come home.
• Fight terrorists with intelligence and special units to stop overstretching our troops and to keep our conventional forces free and ready for major conventional threats.
• Secure our borders and enforce our visa laws to stop terrorists.
• Maintain financial security through sound money, fiscal conservatism, and non-intervention (the smart way to be globally active)—You can’t win a war when you’re bankrupt.

Much more at http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[acmegeek]

I just wrote a piece strongly stressing Ron's position on war with a slightly different twist...

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=116344

 

[TNFreedom]

Couldn't agree more. I have been saying this since I joined you guys following Iowa. Despite the illogicalness of it, its just an absolute non winner with Republicans in this new era of the party. It is equivalent to being an ardently pro-life democrat, you are immediately written off as a loon that doesn't get it. If Dr. Paul was not so hawkish on the anti-war part we would have gotten alot more attention because other than that issue he is their dream candidate. I have had about 10 close republican friends tell me this. Many talk radio people have said this also.

 

[cheese]

agree a billion percent here. win the marketing battle for the conservative title. convince people nonintervention is conservative later.

 

[exomniac]

I guess Im alone on this. Ron converted me to anti-war because he makes the point that the reason we have a crumbling nation is because of the war. It is THE ROOT ISSUE that effects our nations foreign policy, economic stability and our national security.

 

[Archie]

Ron Should kept a soft-tone about his "iraq war" views untill he really has some numbers behind him in the polls. I said this before and I will say it again As A Child when your parents told you something and you didnt listen you would always hate hearing them say "I told you so" it was the most anoyying thing to here as a child because you knew you were Wrong and ya didnt want to hear it again ,Thats exactly how some repub conservative voters feel like there children and they really hate hearing ron talk abotu the war because they take it as him saying "I told yo SO" and even though its a fact that alot less republicans and not as gung-ho about the war in iraq know they still dont wanna here someone in there own party sound like the Democrats in the "I told you so" stuff they just find it anoyying and as Children do the will never admit there wrong because you keep saying "I told you so" ITs a shitty reality but most people who voted for the war in iraq and are now not so gun-ho about it dont wanna here people tell them "there wrong" because they are like little children so Screw it they already now there wrong on the iraq issue

lets just agree on the other stuff that they love that Ron talks about , If you need an example of what im saying just look at all the "repubs " who are not so gun-ho about the war today voting for McCain instead of Paul even though they know Paul is right on the war , they dont like the Democrat sounding "I told ya so" argument stuff they think Paul is doing to them .. ITs Retarded I know but like the one guy said focus on the "Marketing aspect" first and get some real support and numbers behind you and then they will be more then happy to listen to the Conservative argument against UN Style nation building wars , Use sugar not Vinegar to get them close to you first it only logical and I cant believe that RP handlers didnt use this strategy for day one Holy Crap do they not SEE what the Republican Party is like Today ? What did they think there were walking into a barrygoldwater style repub party LOL!!!!!! You have to win the modern day repub morons first and then get them to understand goldwater type republicanism .. You dont take someone driving a geo into a Ferrari after one driving lesson they would be way to scared to control such an awesome tool same goes for goldwater republicanism they need to move a little by little to that because it demands bigtime respect

 

[hawks4ronpaul]

I guess Im alone on this. Ron converted me to anti-war because he makes the point that the reason we have a crumbling nation is because of the war. It is THE ROOT ISSUE that effects our nations foreign policy, economic stability and our national security.

Yes, each case can differ, but the root issue is usually easier AFTER you have won a convert on all the easier issues with smaller mental shifts.

"Paul supports you" is easier than "You must change to support Paul's issue."

http://hawks4ronpaul.blogspot.com/

 

[sharedvoice]

Question for McCain:
With your long history of liberalism, why do you seek the Republican Party nomination?

John McCain (SongBird McCain) Traitor! (COMPELLING AUDIO LISTEN!!)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRvXEsW4Fgg

FACT SHEET: Military record of John Sidney McCain III
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/mccain_post_card_word[1].pdf

John "SongBird" McCain is Part of The Keating Five Scandel
http://www.azcentral.com/news/specials/mccain/articles/0301mccainbio-chapter7.html

John McCain - Fit For Command?
http://www.capitolhillblue.com/cont/node/4486

U.S. Sen. John McCain is no War Hero
http://www.namvets.com/Reading/john_mccain_is_no_war_hero.htm

John McCain: The Manchurian Candidate
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mccainpic.htm

Default McCain borrowed money from bank, used fundraising list as collateral!!!!
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0108/7837.html

Why Did McCain Block Release of POW Info?
http://www.villagevoice.com/news/0523,schanberg,64705,6.html
http://iperceive.net/john-mccain-hanoi-collaborator/

How the Clintons will undo McCain
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=60020

McCain's Divorce
http://www.usvetdsp.com/mcaindiv.htm

"What happened to John McCain's first wife?"
http://askville.amazon.com/happened-John-McCain's-wife/AnswerViewer.do?requestId=7408966

VIDEO: John McCain in "Missing, Presumed Dead"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xBiti-ZbeO0

Kennedy-McCain Amnesty Plan
http://www.newswithviews.com/Taft/john29.htm
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2007/1/25/131758.shtml

YouTube - John McCain- Weak on Immigration
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vs6wwg_ie6Y

Campaign Finance Reform: The Issue (McCain-Feingold)
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/campaignfinance/index.asp

McCain/Lieberman Gun Control
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/679560/posts

McCain Qoutes:

"Thank God for our form of government. The media won't let there be any cover-up." -- John McCain
"Bomb Bomb Bomb Iran..." -- John McCain

YouTube - McCain laughs, Sings Bomb Iran
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAzBxFaio1I

"100 Years in Iraq would be fine by me." -- John McCain
"I'm not interested in trading with al Qaeda, all they want to trade is burkas. I don't want to travel with them, they like one-way tickets." -- John McCain

Senator McCain has hired a dual-nationality Mexican/American citizen (Juan Hernandez) to be his outreach coordinator to the Hispanic community. Juan Hernandez is the legalized version of a present-day Benedict Arnold!

McCain introduces bill to extend US health care to Mexico
http://www.digg.com/politics/McCain_introduced_bill_to_extend_US_health_care_to_Mexico

Vietnam Vet speaks of "Songbird" McCain
http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/february2008/020708_never_tortured.htm

Vietnam Veterans Against John McCain
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/

US Documents pertaining to McCain’s COLLABORATIONS with the Communist
http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_declassified_landing.htm

Google "Hanoi McCain"

 

[Archie]

I guess Im alone on this. Ron converted me to anti-war because he makes the point that the reason we have a crumbling nation is because of the war. It is THE ROOT ISSUE that effects our nations foreign policy, economic stability and our national security.

ITs Because you didnt go at it like a child like 90% of the other Pro-iraq war repubs out there ,you dont mind listening to reason and logic if your on the wrong end of an issue like "nation building" while the other 90% only hear "I told you so" when Ron is speaking about his war stance , Its a shame really but we do have a good chance in converting these types aswell aslong as we dont act to cocky about "being right" on forign policy we just gotta work with them one step at a time and letting them feel very comfortable around the 90% of issues they reall love RP for .. Remember WE LOVE OUR CHILDREN even when they pretend to not here us Correct them with logic and reason..

Oh and Hurry up and make some babies if you already have MAKE MORE LOL!!!!!!! we are in a very high demand for people of your genes who actually dont mind correcting themselves when they here very good logic and reason

 

[thehittgirl]

Ron Should kept a soft-tone about his "iraq war" views untill he really has some numbers behind him in the polls. I said this before and I will say it again As A Child when your parents told you something and you didnt listen you would always hate hearing them say "I told you so" it was the most anoyying thing to here as a child because you knew you were Wrong and ya didnt want to hear it again ,Thats exactly how some repub conservative voters feel like there children and they really hate hearing ron talk abotu the war because they take it as him saying "I told yo SO" and even though its a fact that alot less republicans and not as gung-ho about the war in iraq know they still dont wanna here someone in there own party sound like the Democrats in the "I told you so" stuff they just find it anoyying and as Children do the will never admit there wrong because you keep saying "I told you so" ITs a shitty reality but most people who voted for the war in iraq and are now not so gun-ho about it dont wanna here people tell them "there wrong" because they are like little children so Screw it they already now there wrong on the iraq issue

You are sadly right. But for some reason, I am glad Ron takes the approach he does. Many Americans don't look at the long haul, but the here and now, and like you said, don't like to admit it when they're wrong...and prideful. Someone in my meetup group said when the muck hits the fan, he wants to gather the masses, lock them in one giant room and say, "I told ya so, I told ya so, I told ya so....."
We thought that was funny....

 

[Archie]

You are sadly right. But for some reason, I am glad Ron takes the approach he does. Many Americans don't look at the long haul, but the here and now, and like you said, don't like to admit it when they're wrong...and prideful. Someone in my meetup group said when the muck hits the fan, he wants to gather the masses, lock them in one giant room and say, "I told ya so, I told ya so, I told ya so....."
We thought that was funny....

HAHAHA that is sorta funny especially in light of my example of many good folks in the repub getting toined of by RP war stance cause they percive it as "I TOLD YA SO" But this is a lesson to be learned, Ron Paul is amazing when he speaks what we want to here about Iraq but the bottom line is we cant be so selfish on just one issue in the republican race for the nomination,We gotta stick to what "sells" well with the majority of the repubs voters and that is 90% what RP represent better then anyother candidate and he needs to capitalize in that not hurt himself because we want to say "I told you so" its not worth it for the short term and for the long term we dont wanna get rid of our kids when they dont admit there wrong we want to get them to see our side by using smart examples which will eventually prove our point because they will agree with 90% of the other stuff we tell them for there own good. ITs the same with the war issue you dont wanna force it on people to take one side or the other infact isnt that the whole RP message dont "Force people do accept your ideas" let them learn from us by our example . Same with the war issue if we stop acting cocky in the eyes of the other repubs who get anoyyed because they think were always saying "I told you so" in regards to iraq like there arch-enemy the big gov;t democrats are then we will win them over issue by issue leading to the most controversial one at the end when we got there support anyway ..

Trying to win over base republicans by always bring up how "wrong iraq is" is like a Drug peddler trying to convince the pothead to shoot heroin its gonna be a tough sell to do HAHAHAHHAA

 

[utrunner07]

To the orignal poster, you are 100% correct. I think the most R. Paul should ever say is we need to draw dawn our foreign commitments significantly and work on accomplishing our goals in Iraq and a strong and timely manner....

Geez, HQ should be required to read this board every day, so many ideas on here that if they were listened to would do this campaign greet good! (not all ideas, but many)

OP I would suggest calling headquarters on this one, and then try to get a job there