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Thanks for the OP post donnay. It was a retrospective study so we have to take it with a grain of sodium ascorbate (pun intended!), but interesting nonetheless.

There are currently trials underway to determine high dose Vitamin C therapy for sepsis and cancer. Hoping some real good data comes out of it.

Personally I take 1 G sodium ascorbate together with 1.9 G of Liposomal Vitamin C, two to three times per day, for anywhere between 6-9 G daily and I double it temporarily if I catch a cold. So far so good. YMMV as the GI upset can be significant at high doses.
 
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I didnt have much issue with what she said other than her support of the vitamin C foundation. I personally know a doctor who has cured a cancer patient with high dose intravenous ascorbic acid. (she cant officially call it a cure of course because of the medical regulations) And of course synthetic is going to be cheaper than natural. So I think for most people its going to boil down to personal experience. In the past when I would get a cold I would start popping vitamin c tablets because they said it was good for colds. Never noticed anything dramatic from it.. Now in the last year when Ive noticed myself getting a cold twice i made sure to take acerola cherry powder and the cold started going away by night time and was gone the next day. And shes right about camu camu powder..it doesnt taste too good.. but ive tasted a lot worse.. to me camu camu kind of taste like tea so a little sugar in it and its like drinking iced tea.. I stick with acerola because the taste is much better..

As for the Vitamin C foundation.. I went to their board some years ago. They basically sell Vitamin C supplements (synthetic)... They even use Albert Szent-Gyorgyi's Nobel prize speech as a justification that natural vitamin C is no better than synthetic.. Of course when I pointed out that they failed to go to the proper paragraph on the very next page where Szent-Gyorgyi directly says that the natural vitamin C worked where the synthetic did not.. The Vitamin C foundation's response to that was to simply delete my account.. So they have zero credibility with me and arent interested in anything but selling their product in my opinion.

Now Dr. Suzanne Humphries says Szent-Gyorgyi was able to cure guinea pigs in a subsequent experiment using only L-Ascorbate.. I dont know, I havent read it but even assuming she's correct IMO I feel best sticking with Natural. Nature has a way of putting ingredients in just the right amount and just the right proportion so it works best. Just one man's opinion.

Blah blah blah blah.

Show me how it's chemically different.
 
Ascorbic Acid vs Sodium Ascorbate

It is the form in which each exists that decides the difference between ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbate. Both ascorbic acid and sodium ascorbateare are forms of Vitamin C and are common food additives, where more specifically sodium ascorbate falls under the category of mineral salts. Therefore, while ascorbic acid is the pure form of Vitamin C, sodium ascorbate is the sodium salt of ascorbic acid.

What is Ascorbic Acid?
As the name suggests, ascorbic acid is acidic in nature and dissolves well in water to give mildly acidic solutions. It is an organic chemical compound with a polyhydroxy function that gives it antioxidant properties. Hence, ascorbic acid is used as a common antioxidant food additive.

Many animals and plants can synthesize ascorbic acid from glucose. However, humans and some higher primates are unable to do so due to the lack of an important enzyme in the ascorbic acid biosynthesis pathway. Therefore, humans are compelled to obtain it through diet to avoid Vitamin C deficiency. The deficiency of Vitamin C can lead to several illnesses such as ‘scurvy,’ which can be deadly. Ascorbic acid was previously called ‘L-hexuronic acid‘ and the main form that occurs in nature is the ‘L’ isomer. However, there exists a D-ascorbic acid that is quite similar to L-ascorbic acid in antioxidant activity but less in Vitamin C activity. Furthermore, the antioxidant activity of ascorbic acid only has a small role in the total vitamin activity. But, for specific reaction in the body, it is important that the correct isomer is present.

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What is Sodium Ascorbate?
Sodium ascorbate is the sodium salt of ascorbic acid and is a common mineral salt used as an antioxidant food additive. It is produced through the reaction between equal amounts of ascorbic acid and sodium bicarbonate with further precipitation using isopropanol.

Being a mineral ascorbate, it is buffered and, therefore, less acidic than ascorbic acid. Usually, sodium ascorbate is recommended for people who have gastrointestinal problems associated with ascorbic acid. Sodium ascorbate is considered mild and more abdomen friendly. However, when including sodium ascorbate in diet, it is important to keep in mind that the sodium is also being very well absorbed by the body along with the ascorbic acid. Therefore, the dosage of intake should be carefully monitored. Sodium ascorbate is water soluble and hence can only protect water soluble forms from oxidation. It cannot protect fats from oxidation. Fat soluble esters of ascorbic acid with long fatty chains are required for this purpose.

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What is the difference between Ascorbic Acid and Sodium Ascorbate?
• Ascorbic acid is an organic acid whereas sodium ascorbate is a mineral salt of ascorbic acid.

• The European Food Additive E number for ascorbic acid is E300 and for sodium ascorbate it is E301.

• Sodium ascorbate is milder than ascorbic acid as it is buffered and has less acidity. That makes sodium ascorbate more stomach friendly than ascorbic acid.

• Sodium ascorbate has an ester function whereas ascorbic acid does not have an ester function in it.
https://www.differencebetween.com/difference-between-ascorbic-acid-and-vs-sodium-ascorbate/
 
Thats the difference between Sodium Ascorbate and Ascorbic Acid... She asked the difference between Ascorbic Acid and Vitamin C didnt she? Well thats at least what I answered anyway.. Ascorbic Acid Vs. Vitamin C. lol

Oh I am not sure what she was rambling on about. :rolleyes: I posted the difference in the two, for the point of taking sodium ascorbate like Dr. Humphries suggested, and the one I take, since it is easier on the digestive tract.
 
Oh I am not sure what she was rambling on about. :rolleyes: I posted the difference in the two, for the point of taking sodium ascorbate like Dr. Humphries suggested, and the one I take, since it is easier on the digestive tract.
I wouldnt be surprised if there were 1,000 different isomers of ascorbic acid just like there are for vitamin d.. Probably each has some sort of benefit or use.. the body is incredibly interesting... and theres so much we dont know about it as a species it boggles the mind.
 
I wouldnt be surprised if there were 1,000 different isomers of ascorbic acid just like there are for vitamin d.. Probably each has some sort of benefit or use.. the body is incredibly interesting... and theres so much we dont know about it as a species it boggles the mind.

I couldn't agree more. These people who sit in a cocoon and think that the science is settled on anything are very narrow minded.

Spiritually I know we're here to learn...and the desire to learn should never stop. ;)
 
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