new ron paul ad : immigration

[mel_from_Texas]

How does it validate the charges of racism? He´s saying we need to get control of illegal immigration, and he´s outlining the ways to do it. He´s not saying ¨Mexicans are bad,¨he´s saying that illegal immigration is bad.

And he has made strong statements against racism. Plenty of them:

http://www.mises.org/books/freedomsiege.pdf

Go to page 14.

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=508
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=284

Show your liberal friends those links when they bring this up to you.

well maybe you should go work for Hillary then,,

 

[mel_from_Texas]

Welcome to the Republican party my friend.

I think Ron Knows what he's doing. He didn't check our opinions when he ran for the house, but still he won. He has been in this a lot longer than any of us.. I don't know any of you, but I think its a fair assumption..

 

[RonPaulalways]

It's worth alienating some liberals if it means getting the vote of some older republicans.

 

[hamdog]

Okay, it's me - the grammar police.

VISAS not VISA'S

Thank you. That will be all.

I guess maybe this does prove that they're running a frugal campaign if they can't afford to pay someone to grammar-check

REALLY!!! What are they smoking up there??

Hope they find the boo boo and correct it before it hits the airwaves. Looks very amateurish.

someone should tell them.. YA think..? hello..

it's one thing to call someone out in a chatroom or forum, but this needs to be fixed.

i admit, i didn't catch it on the first viewing (i was too pumped up to find out what was so racist about it), but now it sticks out and looks ugly. please fix it.

 

[integrity]

I think immigration is going to be a HUGE factor in this election. I am all gung ho for some enforcement!

 

[Liberty Star]

http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showpost.php?p=748446&postcount=141

 

[steve254]

We can't stop drugs at the border. Why does anyone think we can stop people. Are we gonna get a wall?

 

[aji]

We can't stop drugs at the border. Why does anyone think we can stop people. Are we gonna get a wall?

You take away the incentives, and make America less attractive to illegals.
Ron Paul has preached this from the beginning.

 

[steve254]

I agree with taking away the incentives.

People illegally crossing the border seeking handouts should not get them. But then, neither should those coming in legally get handouts.

Lets stop the handouts, then the big draw will be for those who want to work and contribute rather than the parasitical class.

 

[cindy25]

they could have gotten the same message across without the racist overtones. antiwar.com is criticizing this ad. maybe you do have to run to right in the primaries, but there should also be an eye on November. the nomination is not the goal, the White House is the goal. Mistakes do happen, especially 5 days before a primary but it is now time to tone it down, or pull that ad.

http://www.antiwar.com/blog/2007/12/29/ron-pauls-disgraceful-ad/

 

[xao]

I agree, the tone of that ad is much, much to anti-immigrant. Its one thing to secure, our borders, I could even live with the no birthright citizenship thing, but now this - no student visas?

How does this help us with getting moderates or liberals to vote for Paul? Its xenophobic and validated all the charges of racism against Paul.

Frankly, I am getting tired of support Paul against this shit, why should I defend him to my liberal friends when the campaign fucks this stuff up.

1) No returned donation from Don Black

2) No strong statements against racism

How does this advertisement help with the latino or asian vote? How does it help with the liberal vote, how does it help with the religious vote? How does it help us get moderate or mainstream republicans?

its doesn't, none of it does.

I'm beginning to regret my support for Paul.

GO BACK TO STORMFRONT, EFFING A-HOLE.


Okay, sorry about typing in all caps but this guy james is a fucking moron and always bashes paul in many of his posts.

Ron Paul is for ALL AMERICANS not different ethnic groups, period. If people can't handle that, go vote for hitlary clinton or some loser like Edwards.

 

[xao]

How does it validate the charges of racism? He´s saying we need to get control of illegal immigration, and he´s outlining the ways to do it. He´s not saying ¨Mexicans are bad,¨he´s saying that illegal immigration is bad.

And he has made strong statements against racism. Plenty of them:

http://www.mises.org/books/freedomsiege.pdf

Go to page 14.

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=508
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=284

Show your liberal friends those links when they bring this up to you.

Good counter to the marxists and socialists permeating the forum.


Some people have no concept of being a 3rd, 4th or even 5th generation American, and then being turned down for any college assistance, financial aid. PLUS being undercut in the construction/ landscaping, etc. industry to point of starvation. -while the "poor disadvantaged" illegal immigrants and minorities get whatever they need no questions asked. INCLUDING a translater for a driver's test. Don't believe me? Visit a California Dmv.

 

[Hook]

GO BACK TO STORMFRONT, EFFING A-HOLE.


Okay, sorry about typing in all caps but this guy james is a fucking moron and always bashes paul in many of his posts.

Ron Paul is for ALL AMERICANS not different ethnic groups, period. If people can't handle that, go vote for hitlary clinton or some loser like Edwards.

Actually, I think he is opposed to Stormfront and other racists. Racism is his whole beef with the ad.
Personally, I don't care one way or the other, but I wish he would calm down a bit.

 

[0zzy]

Stop it!

Stop threatening not to donate!
Stop threatening not to vote!

This is our ONLY chance to get a good man in office!

And you want to fight over minescule things!
If you don't like his policies, fine, address them - when he is president!

Otherwise, student visas from "terrorist" nations will be the least of your worries.


SUPPORT.
DONATE.
VOTE.

 

[thisisgiparti]

How does it validate the charges of racism? He´s saying we need to get control of illegal immigration, and he´s outlining the ways to do it. He´s not saying ¨Mexicans are bad,¨he´s saying that illegal immigration is bad.

And he has made strong statements against racism. Plenty of them:

http://www.mises.org/books/freedomsiege.pdf

Go to page 14.

http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=508
http://www.ronpaullibrary.org/document.php?id=284

Show your liberal friends those links when they bring this up to you.

I did think the people swimming across the Rio Grande was slightly xenophobic, but again, welcome to the GOP. Ron Paul's ad did begin with the Statue of Liberty and how this country has always welcomed immigrants. The situation is a mess, though. Most Americans are scared out of their minds.

So, I think this was a smart commercial for Iowa, probably not New Hampshire, but I'm no expert. Ron Paul stands out from the other candidates on this issue, and Tancredo's kind words on CNN will carry much weight, I'd think.

As for the VISAS: it was only a limit on issues from terrorist countries such as Pakistan and Saudi Arabia. I'm not picking on Pakistan, because of Benazir Bhutto. There is an article in Foreign Policy about how 911 terrorists were financed through the ISI and one man in particular who wired money that immediately bought money orders for the hijackers. 15 out of 19 of these men were Saudi. Let's not forget that the Saudi government gave Pakistan their nukes and poured billions into spreading wahabi sects.

Why we give these countries billions of dollars makes no sense to me, but we know the enemy now and where they come and go from. All the 911 terrorists were here on expired VISAS. The previous administrations left us an awful immigration problem, and cleaning it up won't be pretty. This sounds like a harsh policy, but you have to start somewhere and bear in mind that terrorists want to kill us.

 

[Recovering Socialist]

Great Ad....

When your candidate is over 70 take him out of the ad. This ad is great! I don't agree with the position exactly, but we can pick up alot of support with this ad.


All you whiners about this ad, what would you rather have, an end to the war or more studend visa's to terrorist countries? lol


Way to go Paul!

 

[user]

This is a disgusting ad but I guess we all knew they'd have to start really playing politics sooner or later.

 

[0zzy]

This is a disgusting ad but I guess we all knew they'd have to start really playing politics sooner or later.

That's how I see it. Though I didn't think it was "disgusting", just, the student visa thing is playing politics. he wants to be more careful with those nations, not blanket-deny. At least, that's what I think it is.

Either way, it doesn't matter. We need him elected, that's all that matters.

 

[DirtMcGirt]

It is a strong tone but you know what... America has had sugar kool aid for way too long...

 

[RonPaulalways]

What's racist about enforcing the law? A nation has a right to refuse entry to every one who wants to immigrate there, or else it will what made it great in the first place and attacted all the migrants.