New Republic hits Ron Paul again

[weatherbill]

apparently, when you click on any of the reference links, you can't find anything. it just comes up blank.

 

[fmontez]

The comments in most of those letters aren't untrue, they're just ROUGH language.

Are you kidding me? Some of these newsletters look like they were written by a nutball nazi facist pig who recently escaped from a State mental hospital. I suggest you read some of this dripple in these letters!

 

[jmc1144]

I think yer mom is! And it was written write here on this forum!

Wow. Great argument there. You have a great way of proving your point. I respect you SO much now. It's this type of mental retardation that has made my admiration for the Ron Paul Revolution slowly wither and die.

 

[RoyalTenenbaum]

I thought it was funnny how the article uses inflammatory titles like "Blacks," "Jews," "Gays," and "Conspiracy Theories."

Then it breaks out the big guns: "Pat Buchanan!"

No doubt Pitchfork Pat would consider it a point of pride to have been singled out by the New Republic this way.

 

[LinearChaos]

Wow. Great argument there. You have a great way of proving your point. I respect you SO much now. It's this type of mental retardation that has made my admiration for the Ron Paul Revolution slowly wither and die.

then why are you here?

 

[grunt]

I read through that whole thing. It was a huge waste of time. The article is basically designed to appear to the casual reader as if all the quotes were absolutely horrible. Click the links and read the actual newsletter in context. Most of the time the quote makes a lot more sense in context. This newsletter's were mostly politically correct during the times in which they were written, especially in Texas. They are truly stretching on this one, and they're hoping that most readers don't actually dig in.

 

[huchahucha]

"In January 1992, Paul writes about his consideration of a presidential bid which he dashed after Pat Buchanan expressed his intention to run. Paul wrote of "the essential compatibility between [Buchanan's] ideas and mine" and "agreed to serve as the chairman of his economic advisory committee.""

This proves what I have suspected all along - that Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Scarborough are all frothing at the mouth, conspiracy nut, racist, homophobic bigots. Let me explain:
TNR has now said Ron Paul is a bad person for supporting Pat Buchanan. Pat Buchanan works for MSNBC and is on Matthew's, Carlson's and Scarborough's shows all the time. They must be sympthetic to his "nasty" ideas or they would not let him on the air, so therefore they are just as bad as Pat Buchanan.
Wait, I forgot. MSNBC is the only cable news channel that takes TNR seriously and regularly lets their reporters on air to talk about whatever stories are happening at the time. Any logical person must therefore assume that anyone who works for TNR is also a bigot.

Guilt by association - It's a real bitch.

 

[jmc1144]

then why are you here?

Because I like to debate issues. Apparently you like ignoring them, or resorting to childish namecalling

 

[jmc1144]

This proves what I have suspected all along - that Chris Matthews, Tucker Carlson, and Joe Scarborough are all frothing at the mouth, conspiracy nut, racist, homophobic bigots. Let me explain:
TNR has now said Ron Paul is a bad person for supporting Pat Buchanan. Pat Buchanan works for MSNBC and is on Matthew's, Carlson's and Scarborough's shows all the time. They must be sympthetic to his "nasty" ideas or they would not let him on the air, so therefore they are just as bad as Pat Buchanan.
Wait, I forgot. MSNBC is the only cable news channel that takes TNR seriously and regularly lets their reporters on air to talk about whatever stories are happening at the time. Any logical person must therefore assume that anyone who works for TNR is also a bigot.

Guilt by association - It's a real bitch.

I would agree with all of this. In fact, look at ALL the presidential candidates on the Republican side, they're ALL bigots and/or racists. Yet they don't get called out for it, it's complete bullshit.

 

[LinearChaos]

Because I like to debate issues. Apparently you like ignoring them, or resorting to childish namecalling

No, I don't. I just don't play ball with the Divide and Conquer wedge issues you consider "debate".

 

[LinearChaos]

And I guess "enjoying debate" consists of 38 posts since Saturday defending and spreading the "Ron Paul is teh racist" meme (and how it is going to defeat him in the end). Such masterful "debating".

 

[TattooTom]

I'm reading through this new "batch" of newsletters. These are vile. Look at this one:

http://www.tnr.com/downloads/February1990.pdf

(Boy, it sure burns me to have a national holiday for that pro-communist philanderer, Martin Luther King. I voted against this outrage time and time again as a Congressmen. What an infamy that Ronald Reagan approved it! We can thank him for our annual Hate Whitey Day.)

WTF? Hate Whitey Day? This shit is extensive, and in some cases, even worse than the original stuff.

 

[LinearChaos]

Divide and Conquer.

 

[StarKissed]

those who call it a "smear" are forgetting that the information is in fact, true. Newsletters that were racially charged went out in RP's name. If he wants to save his campaign he needs to address it.

ragging on reason and TNR is pointless. They're doing what they do, its the free market, right? Ron Paul needs to seriously address the newsletters before he gets one more dime from me.

Not because I think he wrote them (I dont), but because he'll never be president unless he DOES address them!! Saying "I have no idea who wrote them" is the lamest thing I ever heard.

Its like stumbling in at 2am with lipstick on your collar stinking of perfume...and not expecting your wife to be suspicious! Denial wont work here! We need ANSWERS from Ron Paul himself.

The bottom line is, you either believe in Ron Paul, or you don't. It's that simple. No matter how many times he addresses this shlit, it's going to keep coming up. He isn't going to play their games. The more importance you/we we give TNR or any of these bottom feeders, the more power we give them. STOP GIVING THEM POWER!

 

[fmontez]

I would agree with all of this. In fact, look at ALL the presidential candidates on the Republican side, they're ALL bigots and/or racists. Yet they don't get called out for it, it's complete bullshit.

Well, Ron Paul is a Republican!

If you don't like Republicans go support some nut job, welfare, neo-lib candidate.

We should support Ron Paul for the nomination, and if he doesn't get it we should support the GOP candidate that does... its part of being in a party. Come out of the fringe and join society... its nice here, no conspiracy, no secret government plots, being able to disagree and yet still respect each other... just a lot of hard working Americans trying to make our Nation great.

 

[LinearChaos]

The bottom line is, you either believe in Ron Paul, or you don't. It's that simple. No matter how many times he addresses this shlit, it's going to keep coming up. He isn't going to play their games. The more importance you/we we give TNR or any of these bottom feeders, the more power we give them. STOP GIVING THEM POWER!

Come on, man. Without divide and conquer wedge issues, what would the sheeple, lightweights, and True Believers have to bicker about?

 

[LinearChaos]

We should support Ron Paul for the nomination, and if he doesn't get it we should support the GOP candidate that does... its part of being in a party. Come out of the fringe and join society... its nice here, no conspiracy, no secret government plots, being able to disagree and yet still respect each other... just a lot of hard working Americans trying to make our Nation great.

This is sarcasm, right? If the GOP rejects Ron Paul, it will concede that it is no longer a party of limited government, which is what Paul basically said in the debate, and the GOP will be dead.

What is most likely going to happen is what Buchanan predicted many months ago, that Ron Paul's candidacy would fracture the base and split the GOP.

 

[jmc1144]

Come on, man. Without divide and conquer wedge issues, what would the sheeple, lightweights, and True Believers have to bicker about?

No being "sheeple" is when you say let it die, let it die, to an issue that has many facets which don't add up if the current explanation is to be believed. As I posted earlier, "Ignorance is strength". That's what posts saying to ignore this and let it die are essentially saying, and this is a quote from Orwell's 1984. It boggles my mind that true RP supporters, who supposedly believe in the truth, would simply say move on to something like this, when the man has changed his story on the letters and then acts like he can't make decisions about what to say about this, only his campaign managers tell him what to do, which is why he changed his story to today's version. That's bullshit, and I wouldn't take that from Clinton, McCain, Giuliani, or anybody else. Certainly not going to take it from Paul either. He says in his decision not to pursue the NH recount that HE decided not to pursue it based on info HE looked at, and told his campaign of his decision. So why, on this issue, is he unable to look at the situation and give a clear account of what happened back in 1996? I honestly don't know. Instead, he says that his campaign manager told him to act like he wrote the stuff back in '96 so THAT'S why he said it that way then, and has changed his story so drastically now.

 

[fmontez]

This is sarcasm, right? If the GOP rejects Ron Paul, it will concede that it is no longer a party of limited government, which is what Paul basically said in the debate, and the GOP will be dead.

What is most likely going to happen is what Buchanan predicted many months ago, that Ron Paul's candidacy would fracture the base and split the GOP.

No sarcasm, the GOP is alive and well, and will go on after this election. Yes, if Ron Paul is not the candidate then we support the primary winner, and Ron Paul will advocate for platform change. We never get 100% of what we want, because that isn't possible... it's about working together, a Nation is not made or saved by one person.

If Ron Paul doesn't get the nomination I will vote for the GOP candidate (unless it is Ghouliani.)

 

[LinearChaos]

No being "sheeple" is when you say let it die, let it die, to an issue that has many facets which don't add up if the current explanation is to be believed. As I posted earlier, "Ignorance is strength". That's what posts saying to ignore this and let it die are essentially saying, and this is a quote from Orwell's 1984. It boggles my mind that true RP supporters, who supposedly believe in the truth, would simply say move on to something like this, when the man has changed his story on the letters and then acts like he can't make decisions about what to say about this, only his campaign managers tell him what to do, which is why he changed his story to today's version. That's bullshit, and I wouldn't take that from Clinton, McCain, Giuliani, or anybody else. Certainly not going to take it from Paul either. He says in his decision not to pursue the NH recount that HE decided not to pursue it based on info HE looked at, and told his campaign of his decision. So why, on this issue, is he unable to look at the situation and give a clear account of what happened back in 1996? I honestly don't know. Instead, he says that his campaign manager told him to act like he wrote the stuff back in '96 so THAT'S why he said it that way then, and has changed his story so drastically now.

You just don't "get it". This issue has been rehashed for almost 15 years. Go watch the Blitzer interview again, but pay attention this time, and you'll see why Ron Paul isn't going to play divide and conquer or be involved with what this smear really is. You should, because you are playing right into what Paul has already spoken out againt. Here, I'll give you the cliff notes:

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Witch+hunt

witch-hunt also witch hunt (wchhnt)
n.
An investigation carried out ostensibly to uncover subversive activities but actually used to harass and undermine those with differing views.

Get it yet? Or would you rather go along with the "mob" or "sheeple", which are the ones who carry the torches and pitchforks when it is time to look for witches to burn.