New poll out: Hillary loses to every Republican except Trump

[ShaneEnochs]

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/18/bernie-sanders-better-liked-runs-better-against-re/

Mrs. Clinton, the former secretary of state, trailed Mr. Kasich by 8 points, trailed Mr. Rubio by 7 points, trailed Mr. Cruz by 3 points, trailed Mr. Bush by 1 point, and led Mr. Trump by 1 point.

Mr. Sanders led Ohio Gov. John Kasich by 4 points, businessman Donald Trump and Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida by 6 points each and Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush by 10 points each, according to the Quinnipiac University poll.

 

[Dr.3D]

Maybe it was planned that way.

Of course....

Bill Clinton reportedly had an intriguing phone call with Donald Trump weeks before his campaign launch

Report: Bill Clinton Called Donald Trump Shortly Before Billionaire Announced His Presidential Bid

Donald Trump Got a Call From Bill Clinton Before He Announced His Candidacy

Trump Consulted Clinton Before Announcing Bid

 

[ShaneEnochs]

Of course....

Bill Clinton reportedly had an intriguing phone call with Donald Trump weeks before his campaign launch

Report: Bill Clinton Called Donald Trump Shortly Before Billionaire Announced His Presidential Bid

Donald Trump Got a Call From Bill Clinton Before He Announced His Candidacy

Trump Consulted Clinton Before Announcing Bid

Would that be relevant to how voters responded to the questions?

 

[Dr.3D]

Would that be relevant to how voters responded to the questions?

How would I know? This topic was discussed right after Trump announced his candidacy. If you were here often enough to really matter, you would have already addressed your concerns then.

Most here consider Trump as being a Trojan horse.

 

[Voluntarist]

xxxxx

 

[RonPaulMall]

They haven't started campaigning yet. Trump is the only one who is going to call Hillary out on the $675,000 Goldman Sachs stuffed in her back pocket for a "speech". Trump is the only one who can effectively call Hillary out for her warmongering in Syria and the disastrous intervention in Libya. Trump is the only GOP candidate she can't demagogue on Social Security or Medicaid. Trump is the only candidate that can call Hillary out for referring to TPP as the "Gold Standard" of trade deals.

The other GOP candidates are all vulnerable to the same crap Dems always use to beat GOP candidates in general elections. Trump is vulnerable to none of that, and will attack her in ways no politician ever has before.

 

[AuH20]

They haven't started campaigning yet. Trump is the only one who is going to call Hillary out on the $675,000 Goldman Sachs stuffed in her back pocket for a "speech". Trump is the only one who can effectively call Hillary out for her warmongering in Syria and the disastrous intervention in Libya. Trump is the only GOP candidate she can't demagogue on Social Security or Medicaid. Trump is the only candidate that can call Hillary out for referring to TPP as the "Gold Standard" of trade deals.

The other GOP candidates are all vulnerable to the same crap Dems always use to beat GOP candidates in general elections. Trump is vulnerable to none of that, and will attack her in ways no politician ever has before.

If you attack Hillary in a conventional manner, you will lose. That's been established. The gentlemanly 'politician's agreement' that we have been accustomed to in the past, benefits no one but rascals like Hillary.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

How would I know? This topic was discussed right after Trump announced his candidacy. If you were here often enough to really matter, you would have already addressed your concerns then.

Most here consider Trump as being a Trojan horse.

Then why'd you bring it up? That stuff happened at the beginning of his campaign. It's not even relevant anymore.

As far as being a Trojan horse, it's like a lot of people around here feed on conspiracy instead of reality.

 

[Tywysog Cymru]

This makes sense. Donald Trump has a cult-like following but those outside the cult can't stand him.

 

[Dr.3D]

Then why'd you bring it up? That stuff happened at the beginning of his campaign. It's not even relevant anymore.

Time will tell. It's always relevant if it's used to the opponents advantage.
Trump could very well be nominated and then throw the election to the democrat.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

Time will tell. It's always relevant if it's used to the opponents advantage.
Trump could very well be nominated and then throw the election to the democrat.

Well hell, Hillary or Bernie could do the same thing. It has about the same likelihood and evidence of happening.

 

[enhanced_deficit]

My fear is that because Hillary Clinton made the huge blunder of supporting Bush's Iraq war and because Hillary campaign started the "Obama is a muslim" rumormill in 2007, Trumpster machine will eat Hillary alive within 5 minutes of winning GOP nomination.
Benghazi bloodbath and email scandals will also be not good for Hillary.


Neocons owners know this and are getting nervous rightly. Trumpster could end up doing irreversible damage to GOP, Dem, neocons establishments that may take decades to repair ... because he is such a loud-mouth self-financed hurricane.


[h=3]Fox owner hosted fund raiser for Hillary Clinton, his daughter hosted fund raiser for Obama[/h]

 

[dannno]

As far as being a Trojan horse, it's like a lot of people around here feed on conspiracy instead of reality.

You can be a pretty big stooge sometimes.. How on earth do you know what Donald Trump's motivations are? You always take EVERYTHING at face value, whereas people here tend to understand that there are likely other elements at play due to all the unknowns.

I don't know what Trump's motivations are, that's why I don't support him. If I felt I knew his motivations were to actually help the country - and not to get Hillary elected or start some authoritarian empire, I might even consider supporting the guy.. But I don't know if he is with or against the establishment. The establishment blasts him constantly, but that is also the tool that Trump is using to gain and keep his popularity. I don't even know what the motivations of the establishment are - if they are to keep Trump from becoming the GOP candidate, then they are retarded. If they are doing it to help him become the GOP candidate so he can be defeated by Democrats then they are pretty smart.

Maybe you can give us some input here, but since you take everything at face value I don't see how you could possibly offer up much of anything of value.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

You can be a pretty big stooge sometimes.. How on earth do you know what Donald Trump's motivations are? You always take EVERYTHING at face value, whereas people here tend to understand that there are likely other elements at play.

I don't know what Trump's motivations are, that's why I don't support him. If I felt I knew his motivations were to actually help the country - and not to get Hillary elected or start some authoritarian empire, I might even consider supporting the guy.. But I don't know if he is with or against the establishment. The establishment blasts him constantly, but that is also the tool that Trump is using to gain and keep his popularity. I don't even know what the motivations of the establishment are - if they are to keep Trump from becoming the GOP candidate, then they are retarded. If they are doing it to help him become the GOP candidate so he can be defeated by Democrats then they are pretty smart.

Maybe you can give us some input here, but since you take everything at face value I don't see how you could possibly offer up much of anything of value.

See, here's the thing: I think his motivation is to win the presidency. What is my evidence of this? Because he's running for president.

You say you don't know what his motivations are so you spin this wild tale about he's actually running to help Hillary get elected with zero supporting evidence other than your gut feeling. It's fine not to trust someone, but let's try to keep things in the realm of probability here.

 

[dannno]

See, here's the thing: I think his motivation is to win the presidency? What is my evidence of this? Because he's running for president.

See, I don't even know if that is true or not.. it very well may be, but the bigger question is, if that is true, what are his motivations for winning the Presidency?

You say you don't know what his motivations are so you spin this wild tale about he's actually running to help Hillary get elected with zero supporting evidence other than your gut feeling. It's fine not to trust someone, but let's try to keep things in the realm of probability here.

I didn't say he was running to help get Hillary elected - I said he could be running to help get Hillary elected and you have offered ZERO evidence that it isn't true. There is SOME evidence it is true - such as them being much closer before the election, such as the phone calls right before he decided to run, liberal policy positions that have changed over the years, etc..

Again, you have no evidence or insight as to the motivations of what people are carrying out actions for. You think Trump is running just to become President. What is he, a fucking third grader?? Your brain doesn't even go past the WHY he wants to become President let-alone questions whether he actually wants that in the first place.

 

[ShaneEnochs]

See, I don't even know if that is true or not.. it very well may be, but the bigger question is, if that is true, what are his motivations for winning the Presidency?

He's a goddamn egomaniac. What do you think his motivation might be for holding the highest public office in the country and being the leader of the free world?

I didn't say he was running to help get Hillary elected - I said he could be running to help get Hillary elected and you have offered ZERO evidence that it isn't true. There is SOME evidence it is true - such as them being much closer before the election, such as the phone calls right before he decided to run, liberal policy positions that have changed over the years, etc..

Again, you have no evidence or insight as to the motivations of what people are carrying out actions for. You think Trump is running just to become President. What is he, a fucking third grader?? Your brain doesn't even go past the WHY he wants to become President let-alone questions whether he actually wants that in the first place.

He could be running to unclassify UFO files too. I haven't put forth any evidence that he isn't because the burden of proof is always on those making the claim, and you're offering no proof so your idea has about the same validity as my UFO example.

 

[Todd]

See, I don't even know if that is true or not.. it very well may be, but the bigger question is, if that is true, what are his motivations for winning the Presidency?



I didn't say he was running to help get Hillary elected - I said he could be running to help get Hillary elected and you have offered ZERO evidence that it isn't true. There is SOME evidence it is true - such as them being much closer before the election, such as the phone calls right before he decided to run, liberal policy positions that have changed over the years, etc..

Again, you have no evidence or insight as to the motivations of what people are carrying out actions for. You think Trump is running just to become President. What is he, a fucking third grader?? Your brain doesn't even go past the WHY he wants to become President let-alone questions whether he actually wants that in the first place.

To Make America great again.


Now Shane can define what "great" means.

 

[euphemia]

She would lose to everyone else, too, if the American public got to see her one-on-one in a debate with them. She's fat, shrill, dated, and nasty. She's not that good.

 

[Crashland]

Hillary would lose to any Republican, probably even to Trump. She is a horrific candidate. Missed her chance in 2008 and now there is no energy, constant dripping of bad news, and concerns over her health.

 

[dannno]

He's a goddamn egomaniac. What do you think his motivation might be for holding the highest public office in the country and being the leader of the free world?

That's very possible, a scary proposition and one reason why I don't support him. But what if he actually does want to help make America great again? What if he is happy with his fortune and wants to be greedy for America?

You have no definitive evidence for your view that the only reason he is running is for his own ego, just because he happens to have a big ego doesn't mean that he might not want to help the country. It's just a piece of evidence, nothing definitive.

He could be running to unclassify UFO files too. I haven't put forth any evidence that he isn't because the burden of proof is always on those making the claim, and you're offering no proof so your idea has about the same validity as my UFO example.

Actually, I offered a lot more evidence than you did for your UFO example. I didn't offer proof but I offered evidence. That is why I don't make the claim that is why he is running for President, I am making the claim that it is possible that is why he is running for President.