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Terrible.

That is completely over the top. If I don't find it convincing, non Ron Paulers definitely wont.
 
Terrible.

That is completely over the top. If I don't find it convincing, non Ron Paulers definitely wont.

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Isn't that kinda what the republican party is saying to us? Why should I not express my opinion to help shape this movement? If naysayers were always silent, change would never come to pass.

You should be ashamed.
 
Isn't that kinda what the republican party is saying to us? Why should I not express my opinion to help shape this movement? If naysayers were always silent, change would never come to pass.

You should be ashamed.

Odd.. you classify yourself as a naysayer.

And NO, the republican party is saying, "Suck John McCains balls or GTFO".

Your expressing of your opinion, in this instance is going to do NOTHING to help shape this movement - for the BETTER..

There is a difference between naysaying and constructive criticism. I suggest you learn it. :D
 
I'm suggesting we don't use over the top fear-mongering to make our point... you know, the way the neo cons do.
Overlapping the subway with a nazi train car is not something that most people are going to buy. I'm an ardent Ron Paul supporter, i see how we're moving towards a police state, and I STILL don't see it as convincing or appropriate. That's my constructive criticism; we aren't going to win this or make our point if we use over the top fear mongering. We need something people are going to accept as realistic.

And yes, I am a naysayer, of this ad.

"And NO, the republican party is saying, "Suck John McCains balls or GTFO"."
Lets look at the whole campaign though, they were saying "Suck neo-cons' balls or GTFO". I don't buy that, just like I don't buy this ad.
 
Well, I think you did a great job. I don't care if some think it's over the top. Our next election is THAT crucial and people do need to wake the hell up. And fast.
 
I'm going to agree with Jon. Too much of what we've been producing lately is seemingly for internal consumption within the movement. It's a fine video for stoking our supporters, but it's not going to bring in any new people. Unfortunately, I think the High Tide ad makes the same mistake.

If we want to grow this movement, we're going to need media that eases people into the information, and doesn't make us look like a bunch of over-hyped, self-important loons. We should at least appear to be regular people. :P
 
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