New Hampshire poll: Trump surging

[Wilf]

There's no doubt that liberalism and socialism are very popular with younger people, mostly because they are idiots that don't know the first thing about economics, business, or life itself. Some people grow up and unlearn their state-worship, but many don't.

Couldn't you say the samething about seniors

 

[YesI'mALiberal]

p.s.

The Berniementum is real.


Bernie Sanders, the self-described Vermont socialist whose ragtag presidential campaign is drawing overflow crowds across the country, is within shouting distance of Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton in New Hampshire, according to a new Suffolk University poll of Granite State Democrats.

The poll of 500 likely Democratic voters found Mrs. Clinton has but a 10-percentage point lead over Mr. Sanders, 41% to 31%. The survey is the first public poll showing Mr. Sanders – or anyone else – within 10 points of Mrs. Clinton in New Hampshire since 2016 polling began early last year. In early May, a Bloomberg/St. Anselm Collegepoll gave Mrs. Clinton a 44-point lead over Mr. Sanders.

more: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/16/bernie-sanders-closes-in-on-hillary-clinton-in-n-h-poll/

Hmmm. Bernie surges while Paul drops. Hmmm.

Time for one of you to discern that Bernie is a Bush/Rove/RNC plant to steal the election from Rand Paul.

 

[Sola_Fide]

Couldn't you say the samething about seniors

Yeah. It seems like seniors and young people are the ones who have the same kind of inclinations toward statism. But I think for different reasons.

 

[Sola_Fide]

p.s.



more: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/16/bernie-sanders-closes-in-on-hillary-clinton-in-n-h-poll/

Hmmm. Bernie surges while Paul drops. Hmmm.

Time for one of you to discern that Bernie is a Bush/Rove/RNC plant to steal the election from Rand Paul.

What about Bernie Sanders make you excited? Is it when he blocked Audit The Fed?

 

[Rudeman]

p.s.



more: http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/06/16/bernie-sanders-closes-in-on-hillary-clinton-in-n-h-poll/

Hmmm. Bernie surges while Paul drops. Hmmm.

Time for one of you to discern that Bernie is a Bush/Rove/RNC plant to steal the election from Rand Paul.

Posting a poll that is a week old, what happened to that other poll you were bragging about? You know the one where Hillary was beating Bernie by 60%. Hmmm

 

[YesI'mALiberal]

What about Bernie Sanders make you excited? Is it when he blocked Audit The Fed?

I'm not terribly excited about him, but I do acknowledge that he is THE #1 phenom in politics right now. (Okay, Trump has moved up to 1A).

I do like many of his positions - like Rand Paul - but I see them as entirely unrealistic. Unlike Rand Paul, Bernie does seem to know his best bet is to get things done incrementally in Congress instead of continually going all-or-nothing.

As for Audit The Fed specifically, it's no more an "audit" than the Freedom Act was about "freedom." There are already extensive financial audits of the Fed's activities; anything they can hide from those audits won't be found by one more. No, Audit The Fed is about exposing their deliberations to partisan politics - which simply shouldn't be done. And Ron Paul, at least, made no secret of the fact that it was intended to be the first step towards doing away with the Fed. Again, I oppose that. Keep your gold standard.

 

[FreedomProsperityPeace]

Trump's surge is the typical announcement surge combined with high name I.D. I'm not fully convinced he will go through with a run. But, if he does, his mouth will do him in. There's a reason for these numbers:

"...he remains the most disliked GOP candidate in the field. Suffolk found he is the only GOP candidate with a net unfavorable rating in New Hampshire — 37% of those surveyed had a favorable opinion of Mr. Trump, compared to 49% who had an unfavorable view."

 

[YesI'mALiberal]

Posting a poll that is a week old, what happened to that other poll you were bragging about? You know the one where Hillary was beating Bernie by 60%. Hmmm

This poll is from the same pollsters - Suffolk University - and uses the same methodology as the current poll in this thread. I mention it as a clue as to where Paul's NH support has gone.

As for that other poll (I assume you mean the WSJ/NBC one), it's national, not New Hampshire. And it's still here somewhere. If you want to discuss it, the thread should still be right near the top of this subforum.

 

[Sola_Fide]

I'm not terribly excited about him, but I do acknowledge that he is THE #1 phenom in politics right now. (Okay, Trump has moved up to 1A).

I do like many of his positions - like Rand Paul - but I see them as entirely unrealistic. Unlike Rand Paul, Bernie does seem to know his best bet is to get things done incrementally in Congress instead of continually going all-or-nothing.

You think Rand is one of those "all or nothing" candidates? Wow.

As for Audit The Fed specifically, it's no more an "audit" than the Freedom Act was about "freedom." There are already extensive financial audits of the Fed's activities; anything they can hide from those audits won't be found by one more. No, Audit The Fed is about exposing their deliberations to partisan politics - which simply shouldn't be done. And Ron Paul, at least, made no secret of the fact that it was intended to be the first step towards doing away with the Fed. Again, I oppose that. Keep your gold standard.

Wow.

 

[69360]

Did Trump even file FEC paperwork yet? I can't imagine he is a serious candidate or will even be in the race in NH.

 

[luctor-et-emergo]

Did Trump even file FEC paperwork yet? I can't imagine he is a serious candidate or will even be in the race in NH.

I read an article earlier today that said he has filed. Don't know where that was but it's probably true.

Well, hey, it's even in this article...

While Mr. Trump is experiencing a bump in popularity after announcing the launch of his campaign last week (he filed formal Federal Elections Commission paperwork Monday), he remains the most disliked GOP candidate in the field. Suffolk found he is the only GOP candidate with a net unfavorable rating in New Hampshire — 37% of those surveyed had a favorable opinion of Mr. Trump, compared to 49% who had an unfavorable view.

 

[Jamesiv1]

 

[Rudeman]

This poll is from the same pollsters - Suffolk University - and uses the same methodology as the current poll in this thread. I mention it as a clue as to where Paul's NH support has gone.

As for that other poll (I assume you mean the WSJ/NBC one), it's national, not New Hampshire. And it's still here somewhere. If you want to discuss it, the thread should still be right near the top of this subforum.

I just find it humorous that you nit-pick polls to sell your narrative.

 

[acptulsa]

Odd, isn't Rand doing well among younger people ?

Specifically, high school age children of Republicans with land lines? Apparently not. Apparently you have to have name recognition--like every night on the news and once a week on Celebrity Apprentice name recognition.

Funny how the same liberals who (quite rightly) run around talking about how skewed and misleading Fox is then turn around and troll us with the blatherings of another Murdoch property--just as though Murdoch isn't Murdoch, and the one is any more trustworthy than the other.

The funny thing is, this is the first poll I've ever seen that is specifically designed to drag the adult children up from the basement, and look who didn't win...

 

[CPUd]

Trump has had a lot of people on the ground in NH for a while now. I think he's had people there every cycle, and this time they felt good enough about their internal numbers to give it a go.

 

[kahless]

In New Hampshire:

http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2015/...y-in-n-h-taking-second-place-in-suffolk-poll/

The poll has Rand Paul at 4%. I find that highly suspicious

I am not surprised to see him get an announcement bump.

"The poll of 500 likely GOP presidential primary voters...". Where did they find the 500, at a Jeb Bush campaign rally. Jeb's numbers is what I find highly suspicious.

 

[Crashland]

4% is abysmal, but no one should be worried yet

 

[euphemia]

Candidates generally get a bump right after they announce. On the other side, it's like Hillary dropped off the face of the earth because people can't get enough of Bernie Sanders.

 

[Foreigner]

The funny thing is, this is the first poll I've ever seen that is specifically designed to drag the adult children up from the basement, and look who didn't win...

Not really. - Breakdown of respondents:
18-34: 18,8% (of which just 3,2% are under 25)
35-54: 38%
55+: 41,8%

65% Landline. At 29%, Undecided leads the poll.

I do not think these results matches reality at all. Who has landline anymore? Same pollster had Rand at 7% in march, with fewer total candidates included. So he is down, (naturally since there are more candidates to choose from) but he did not do great in the March poll either, compared with other polls done at the same time.

This poll, however, has A LOT of information. The accompanying PDF-file has 448 pages!

Rand's numbers:
18-34: 12%
35-44: 7%
45-54: 2%
55+: 1%

Total: 4,2% or 21 people out of 500.

More things you supposedly can learn from this poll:

Almost all people selecting Paul as second choice have Jeb Bush, Donald Trump and George Pataki as their 1st choice. (WTF!)

Most of the Paul supporters select Donald Trump, then Christie and Cruz as their 2nd choice. (WTF!)

Christie and Trump however, are viewed unfavorably by a large majority of Paul supporters.

A slim majority of Paul supporters view Bush favorably.

A large majority of Paul supporters view Carson, Cruz, Rubio, Walker favorably

Cruz, Rubio and then Walker supporters are the ones that view Rand most favorably.

Bush, Fiorina and Christie supporters view Rand least favorably.

1/3rd of Paul supporters support raising taxes to reduce the deficit. Only Bush supporters are more supportive of this. (excluding candidates with fewer than 10 "votes")

57% of Paul supporters consider themselves tea-party. Only Cruz had a higher %.

Bush, Rubio, Walker, Paul were the candidates most people wanted to see in the debates. About 50% of people who viewed Paul unfavorably still wanted him in the debates.

If you just poll the people who view Paul favorably the results would be:

Bush - 11%
Trump - 11%
Walker - 9%
Paul - 8%
Rubio - 8%

 

[Anti Federalist]

I do not think these results matches reality at all. Who has landline anymore?

Oh no, not this again...I heard this in 2008 and again in 2012, and now again leading up to 2016.

The hidebound GOP primary voter base, especially in NH, is almost pathologically addicted to losing.

Rand is in the only candidate who beats Hillary in critical swing states like Ohio, and yet here they go again, getting ready to nominate another tired re-tread, establishmentarian, loser.

LOL @ "politics".