New Food Labels Will Show Calories And Sugar Content--But Not GMO's!

[Suzanimal]

A serving of ice cream, for example, would double to a full cup, closer to what people actually eat.

One cup's a realistic serving of ice cream?!:o

The agency projects food companies will have to pay around $2 billion to revise labels.

Wow, I guess food prices will continue to rise.

This is the way it should be done.(Edit: I ripped this quote off Donnay's post and forgot to make a note of it, sorry:o)

"The federal government lacks constitutional authority to mandate labeling of products containing genetically-modified food. Furthermore, those who do not wish to consume genetically-modified products should be leery of federally-mandated labeling because history shows that federal regulatory agencies are susceptible to 'capture,' where the regulators end up serving the interest of the business they are supposed to control. In the case of labeling, federal agencies could redefine the meaning of 'modified' to allow genetically-engineered food on the market without fully-informing consumers of the presence of genetically- engineered ingredients. Instead of federal regulation, consumers should demand that manufactures provide full information and refuse to buy those products that are not fully labeled. Once producers see there is a demand for non-genetically-engineered products they will act to fulfill that demand. Of course, makers of genetically-engineered food should be held legally responsible if they fraudulently market their products or harm anyone."
Feb. 26, 2008 Ron Paul

 

[angelatc]

One cup's a realistic serving of ice cream?!:o


Wow, I guess food prices will continue to rise.

This is the way it should be done.

Sure - they should voluntarily label their food if that's what their consumers demand. And this clearly shows how behind the government actually is. As they point out, they system they designed put the emphasis on the different types of fat, based on science that has since advanced beyond that method of thinking.

And 20 years later, the government reacts.

 

[IBleedNavyAndOrange]

Are you in favor of the government mandating that a food producer must label anything at all about his product and if so,what do you think he must include on that label under penalty of law?

I am not. Labels should be voluntary.

Forced labeling is going to be done regardless.

If I'm wrong about this, tell me I'm wrong.

So now that labeling is what will happen, lets get it right. Let's be honest about what is in the product. I need to know there is sugar in the product, but I cannot know that the beet used to make the sugar is genetically modified so that an herbicide that kills EVERY plant sprayed does nothing to the beet?

 

[angelatc]

I am not. Labels should be voluntary.

Forced labeling is going to be done regardless.

If I'm wrong about this, tell me I'm wrong.

So now that labeling is what will happen, lets get it right. Let's be honest about what is in the product. I need to know there is sugar in the product, but I cannot know that the beet used to make the sugar is genetically modified so that an herbicide that kills EVERY plant sprayed does nothing to the beet?

OK, you're wrong about this.

The amount of sugar in a product affects your health. The amount of GMO in a product does not. If you want a GMO free food, look for one that is labeled "organic."

 

[mad cow]

I am not. Labels should be voluntary.

Forced labeling is going to be done regardless.

If I'm wrong about this, tell me I'm wrong.

So now that labeling is what will happen, lets get it right. Let's be honest about what is in the product. I need to know there is sugar in the product, but I cannot know that the beet used to make the sugar is genetically modified so that an herbicide that kills EVERY plant sprayed does nothing to the beet?

If forced labeling is wrong,you should be battling forced labeling,not promoting what you also want on something you admit is wrong in the first place.

And who should be forced to label?You no longer have to worry about children's lemonade stands,they have already been outlawed for violating some other of leviathan's multitude of regulations.

How about a farmer's market or food co-op or just a farmer who runs a roadside stand selling produce from his organic farm?
I would think it wouldn't cost him any more than it would cost WalMart or Kroger to have their produce inspected and labeled and certified the way that you might demand it.

If you are in favor of government inspection and labeling,why should it be any less strict for the family raising free-range chickens down the street than it is for Perdue?

And who do you think it will put out of business first?

 

[eduardo89]

Amazing how you will cheerlead for labels showing calories and sugar content but not give any information on it to inform the citizen about GMO's. The sugar may be GMO beet sugar--but you don't care, do you?

Speaking out of both sides of your mouth again. Tsk. Tsk. Tsk.

I'm against all mandatory labels. It's not the federal government's business to force manufacturers to label in a certain way.

 

[donnay]

I'm against all mandatory labels. It's not the federal government's business to force manufacturers to label in a certain way.

If it is demanded by the people, then you will have no choice then to comply or go out of business.

 

[eduardo89]

If it is demanded by the people, then you will have no choice then to comply or go out of business.

Sure, let the free market decide.

 

[IBleedNavyAndOrange]

If forced labeling is wrong,you should be battling forced labeling,not promoting what you also want on something you admit is wrong in the first place.

And who should be forced to label?You no longer have to worry about children's lemonade stands,they have already been outlawed for violating some other of leviathan's multitude of regulations.

How about a farmer's market or food co-op or just a farmer who runs a roadside stand selling produce from his organic farm?
I would think it wouldn't cost him any more than it would cost WalMart or Kroger to have their produce inspected and labeled and certified the way that you might demand it.

If you are in favor of government inspection and labeling,why should it be any less strict for the family raising free-range chickens down the street than it is for Perdue?

And who do you think it will put out of business first?

Complete agreement.

On every word.

I know how it works. I get that its a false debate akin to asking if you want to be killed by hanging or firing squad. I get it. I really do.

Im saying, given this false choice, the labels that shouldn't be there should have 3 extra letters somewhere on it if it is a frankenfood.

 

[specsaregood]

If you want a GMO free food, look for one that is labeled "organic."

Not quite. Last I checked, the organic labeling process does not include any actual testing; relying instead upon guidelines and record keeping to keep a product relatively free of GMO. If gmo-free-food is really important to somebody; they should look for one of the 3rd party independent labels from organizations that test the product for gmo in addition to stricter criteria than govt.
eg:http://www.nongmoproject.org/find-non-gmo/search-participating-products/

The libertarian free-market solution to this issue.

 

[donnay]

Complete agreement.

On every word.

I know how it works. I get that its a false debate akin to asking if you want to be killed by hanging or firing squad. I get it. I really do.

Im saying, given this false choice, the labels that shouldn't be there should have 3 extra letters somewhere on it if it is a frankenfood.

Yep, that is where cognitive dissonance comes into play. They already have labels, the government is forcing people to put calories and sugar on them. But those three extra letters are forbidden. Because government would never intentionally harm any one, and they aren't working with the Biotechs, right?

 

[mad cow]

Yep, that is where cognitive dissonance comes into play. They already have labels, the government is forcing people to put calories and sugar on them. But those three extra letters are forbidden. Because government would never intentionally harm any one, and they aren't working with the Biotechs, right?

To put those three extra letters on that government mandated label,some licensed entity is going to have to evaluate, test and certify that the tested food product is GMO free.
If this costs Walmart $100,000/year,it will also cost farmer Jones with his roadside organic produce stand $100,000/year.Who do you think it will bankrupt?

I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart,Kroger,Food Lion and such started lobbying for mandatory Non-GMO labeling.

Be careful what you wish for.

Unless,of course you are hoping that it is payed by mandated taxes on everybody.In that case the price of foodstuffs goes up for everyone,even if they are perfectly happy with GMO's.
Kinda like Sandra Fluke being perfectly happy with everybody else paying for her condoms under Obamacare.

 

[angelatc]

Complete agreement. On every word. I know how it works. I get that its a false debate akin to asking if you want to be killed by hanging or firing squad. I get it. I really do.

Im saying, given this false choice, the labels that shouldn't be there should have 3 extra letters somewhere on it if it is a frankenfood.

The labeling now serves a couple of purposes. First, it lets people with allergies know what is in foods. Second, it gives people the nutritional information about the food.

There are no known allergies to GMO foods. Any nutritional differences in GMO food will be labeled accordingly.

So what you are actually advocating is that the government start to use the labeling mandates as a sleazy marketing tool. What a brilliant plan. What could go wrong?

 

[donnay]

To put those three extra letters on that government mandated label,some licensed entity is going to have to evaluate, test and certify that the tested food product is GMO free.
If this costs Walmart $100,000/year,it will also cost farmer Jones with his roadside organic produce stand $100,000/year.Who do you think it will bankrupt?

I wouldn't be surprised if Walmart,Kroger,Food Lion and such started lobbying for mandatory Non-GMO labeling.

Be careful what you wish for.

Unless,of course you are hoping that it is payed by mandated taxes on everybody.In that case the price of foodstuffs goes up for everyone,even if they are perfectly happy with GMO's.
Kinda like Sandra Fluke being perfectly happy with everybody else paying for her condoms under Obamacare.

Oh definitely, I understand. That is why the government should be out of the picture altogether. Just like USDA jumping on the bandwagon with Organics. Lots of the farmers around here have organic products but will not go through the hoops and licensing to get things 'certified Organic' because it is a lot of red tape.

That is one of the reasons I advocate buying local and get to know your farmers and ranches.

 

[Fox McCloud]

The labeling now serves a couple of purposes. First, it lets people with allergies know what is in foods. Second, it gives people the nutritional information about the food.

There are no known allergies to GMO foods. Any nutritional differences in GMO food will be labeled accordingly.

So what you are actually advocating is that the government start to use the labeling mandates as a sleazy marketing tool. What a brilliant plan. What could go wrong?

Interestingly enough, GMO foods are the only foods specifically tested for their safety, while others (hydrids, organic, etc) are assumed to be safe.

 

[donnay]

Interestingly enough, GMO foods are the only foods specifically tested for their safety, while others (hydrids, organic, etc) are assumed to be safe.

Tested by whom?

 

[PaulConventionWV]

Putting the fact that the new labels don't address GMO in your title is indeed screeching.

How come you never answered my questions in the other thread? I gave you all the ground rules you asked for and you simply scurried away to avoid answering them.

You lack all credibility, angelatc. Why do you still post, knowing what a hypocrite you are? You can't defend your own belief, but you will vociferously promote it to others.

 

[TaftFan]

Of course not. That would be like putting "FOOD" on a box of pizza.