**NEVADA** State Convention updates here

[sailingaway]

The current motion is to accept the bylaws as reported by the bylaws committee, we haven't had the chance to amend them to unbind. Unless I'm mistaken.

But your summary said they were trying to unbind, and the motion had been to seat the new committee people which would give Ron two more delegates. So I was saying that wasn't what was up.

 

[Unknown.User]

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[sailingaway]

We fucked up big time by not advancing that bi-law amendment to unbind the second we could. We waited too long and confused people with that first amendment to try to and convert the superdelegates.

I don't think they tried to unbind. they might have later or might not have, but if they couldn't pass the one they couldn't pass the other.

 

[Titus]

Keep what others in the race?

It's a long shot of questionable legality but if RP can "give" his delegates to Gingrich in those states, Gingrich's delegates would then remain bound. If they are bound, then Romney cannot pick up Gingrich's delegates to get to 1,144.

Santorum will have four on the worst counts unless an unbinding vote happens. We can flop him AK and he would have five.

If all the candidates have five states, Mitt needs 1,144 outright to win.

 

[Inkblots]

But your summary said they were trying to unbind, and the motion had been to seat the new committee people which would give Ron two more delegates. So I was saying that wasn't what was up.

I think you may have misread what I said. They are voting at this moment on whether to accept the bylaws, which we have not yet had the chance to amend to unbind. IT was a tactical error that we tried to amend the bylaws regarding the superdelegates first rather than regarding delegate binding first.

 

[ShibbitySparks]

I don't think they tried to unbind. they might have later or might not have, but if they couldn't pass the one they couldn't pass the other.

They didn't pass the first one because it was ruled out of order, since the supers elected at this convention won't actually assume office until the conclusion of the RNC, meaning it would be out of order to allow them to be voting delegates.

The unbinding amendment would've been a different discussion entirely, but we waited too long to propose it.

 

[lasenorita]

Whelp. I guess we lost this one. (Room isn't looking good.)

 

[Titus]

Does it matter now? It seems the NVGOP is going on recess until the morning, or am I wrong?

 

[sailingaway]

It's a long shot of questionable legality but if RP can "give" his delegates to Gingrich in those states, Gingrich's delegates would then remain bound. If they are bound, then Romney cannot pick up Gingrich's delegates to get to 1,144.

Santorum will have four on the worst counts unless an unbinding vote happens. We can flop him AK and he would have five.

If all the candidates have five states, Mitt needs 1,144 outright to win.

No way should Ron give them delegates. Now sending his people to their slots... I did wonder whether the NVGOP maybe shouldn't REALLY bind by the caucus since that was the supposed rule, which does not give Romney 20 but less. It gives Ron 2 less too, but if he isn't getting a plurality it might be more likely putting Ron folks into Santa and Grinch spots in NV and keeping them there since they only suspended, might really be closer to following the actual rule. And Romney gets less. and Grinch and Santa are more likely to unbind.

 

[Inkblots]

They didn't pass the first one because it was ruled out of order, since the supers elected at this convention won't actually assume office until the conclusion of the RNC, meaning it would be out of order to allow them to be voting delegates.

The unbinding amendment would've been a different discussion entirely, but we waited too long to propose it.

Yep. A major tactical error on the part of the campaign's floor organizers.

 

[Unknown.User]

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[bb23]

The ironic thing is that if the people who voted aye to not vote on anymore bylaws were trying to get this event over with... if we had continued voting, we would probably be done voting on additional bylaws by now, due to the time required to count these votes.

 

[Inkblots]

Does it matter now? It seems the NVGOP is going on recess until the morning, or am I wrong?

Oh no, they've still got literally hours of business to transact.

 

[azxd]

We fucked up big time by not advancing that bi-law amendment to unbind the second we could. We waited too long and confused people with that first amendment to try to and convert the superdelegates.

I can't believe we gave the opposition time to call to close discussion of amendments. Right after someone did that, finally one of our guys started to move for unbinding, but at that point it was too late. Dumb move.

That's my take on it.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

lol we are all the same . most men get accused of getting drunk and looking at porn. i get accuse (and rightfully so) of getting drunk and looking at ron paul stuff. ....which is soooo true! im lucky my wife likes ron paul.

hottie too. and here i am ducked out in the bathroom with the laptop watching this tread. wtf man. WTF

 

[Titus]

No way should Ron give them delegates. Now sending his people to their slots... I did wonder whether the NVGOP maybe shouldn't REALLY bind by the caucus since that was the supposed rule, which does not give Romney 20 but less. It gives Ron 2 less too, but if he isn't getting a plurality it might be more likely putting Ron folks into Santa and Grinch spots in NV and keeping them there since they only suspended, might really be closer to following the actual rule. And Romney gets less. and Grinch and Santa are more likely to unbind.

Sailing, I will pm you tomorrow if this is unclear. I don't think you understood my intent. This was RP takes them all tonight... then all of them vote Gingrich on the first ballot in NV (if we can). If Gingrich has five states, then there is no unbinding unless Grinch changes his status from "suspended". If he would do that, RP would not "give" his delegates at all, as that would be pointless.

 

[Unknown.User]

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[bb23]

lol we are all the same . most men get accused of getting drunk and looking at porn. i get accuse (and rightfully so) of getting drunk and looking at ron paul stuff. ....which is soooo true! im lucky my wife likes ron paul.

pron?

 

[lasenorita]

Mark is saying that the ayes will have it. So I guess NV delegates will remain bound. The two 'superdelegates' will remain pro-Romney.


Whoa! Whoa! Nays have it!

 

[Thor]

No way should Ron give them delegates. Now sending his people to their slots... I did wonder whether the NVGOP maybe shouldn't REALLY bind by the caucus since that was the supposed rule, which does not give Romney 20 but less. It gives Ron 2 less too, but if he isn't getting a plurality it might be more likely putting Ron folks into Santa and Grinch spots in NV and keeping them there since they only suspended, might really be closer to following the actual rule. And Romney gets less. and Grinch and Santa are more likely to unbind.

Good point, but I think if they were ALL unbound, then the possibility of another plurality existed if more spots could be taken from Romney now IF more RP delegates we elected earlier today. Either way it is not bad if we have a lot of delegate spots.