Maybe lunch was called so they could figure it out.
**NEVADA** State Convention updates here
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Maybe lunch was called so they could figure it out.
The executive summary is that NV has accomplished precisely nothing so far, due to fighting over who gets to vote - the 1700 people in the room, or the 1146 elected delegates. I'm hearing rumors and reports of 400 romney supporters bussed in at the last minute but don't know how accurate that is. There were *false* delegate slates of romney delegates labelled as ron paul delegates being passed around but that was quashed very quickly.
After NV comes back from lunch, apparently they will be seating delegates in one area and guests in another based on badges. The guests will be allowed to watch but not to participate. If any guests attempt to participate they will be ejected.
I'm skeptical that they will be very effective in sorting out delegates from what I've seen. The chair doesn't seem to care at all and seems happy to just let the room do the voting. It doesn't even look malicious, I think they are genuinely exasperated that suddenly, so many people care that only official delegates do the voting. At least their parliamentarian seems on the ball.
The streaming links for today are...
Nevada (this thread): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention
Maine: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/octojofo
The Nevada one is currently down due to lunch.
After NV comes back from lunch, apparently they will be seating delegates in one area and guests in another based on badges. The guests will be allowed to watch but not to participate. If any guests attempt to participate they will be ejected.
I'm skeptical that they will be very effective in sorting out delegates from what I've seen. The chair doesn't seem to care at all and seems happy to just let the room do the voting. It doesn't even look malicious, I think they are genuinely exasperated that suddenly, so many people care that only official delegates do the voting. At least their parliamentarian seems on the ball.
The streaming links for today are...
Nevada (this thread): http://www.ustream.tv/channel/nevadaconvention
Maine: http://www.ustream.tv/channel/octojofo
The Nevada one is currently down due to lunch.
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justatrey
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OK here's my summary, as best as I understand it for those who haven't been following. Someone correct me if I'm wrong about this...
Romney supporter (or supporters?) was caught distributing fake Ron Paul delegate lists which actually contained Romney delegates. There are ~1700 in the room, even though there are only 1146 delegates. Only those 1146 are allowed to vote, but the others have been participating in the vocal votes which isn't allowed. Paul campaign says we have 750 delegates signed in which would be a majority of 1146. Apparently Romney bused in 400+ "guests" after the start of the convention? The chairman announced that after lunch all will be required to show proof of being a delegate. Although the chairman is apparently not on our side.
Or something like that.
Romney supporter (or supporters?) was caught distributing fake Ron Paul delegate lists which actually contained Romney delegates. There are ~1700 in the room, even though there are only 1146 delegates. Only those 1146 are allowed to vote, but the others have been participating in the vocal votes which isn't allowed. Paul campaign says we have 750 delegates signed in which would be a majority of 1146. Apparently Romney bused in 400+ "guests" after the start of the convention? The chairman announced that after lunch all will be required to show proof of being a delegate. Although the chairman is apparently not on our side.
Or something like that.
LibertAtOnce
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only the chair has been voted so far.
Nothing else has been voted upon.
1700+ people taking part in the convention when only 1146 delegates are allocated.
Lunch time now and when the delegates return they must show their credentials to get back in.
This has only just started.
Hopefully this helps
UtahApocalypse
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I thought we had won the chair..... this guy is NOT us at all.
economics102
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Correct, the only real vote that has taken place so far is for the chair, which the Paul and Romney camps apparently pre-agreed on.
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My understanding (which may be incorrect) is that limiting voters to those on the preliminary credentials report would require adoption of a new rule ... which would require a vote ...which wouldn't take place until after adoption of the (non-preliminary) credentials report ...
Can you say "Catch-22" ...
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Chairs getting a rough time, but he made the right call there with regards to letting in only the people with credentials after lunch.
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Are you personally at the convention? Was there some kind of previous agreement on who chaired the convention prior to the caucus?
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If they sort out the extra 500 people from the real delegates, then things could swing our way fairly quickly. That's only possible if they find an acceptable way of discerning between the two. So far, that has meant chaos. But now people will come back from lunch fat and happy and we'll see what happens. Hopefully the Ron Paul supporters come back ready to fight.
economics102
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Yeah, the chair is not one of us but he hasn't been completely horrible either.
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I thought they did a fake vote and the Mitt people had more votes? So thats not good.
ok so with that being said, once they only allow the 1146 delegates back in, we should have the majority because we had 750 rp supporters registered.... am i correct in that?
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