Neocon: Rand Paul Is Likely to Improve as a Warmonger (with practice)

[Scrapmo]

If he would just commit to the genocide of all brown people he would be a shoe in!

Frothy Santorum based half of his entire political campaign on it and look how far he got.

 

[PSYOP]

Rand is not and never has been a warmonger. He's fought them and called them out. Just today for instance.

Respectfully -- what about the Iran sanctions? This is one of my very few problems with Rand.

 

[Warlord]

Respectfully -- what about the Iran sanctions? This is one of my very few problems with Rand.

Sanctions are not a military intervention.

Don't wish to go over this again but Rand is the most antiwar senator there is. He has fought against Libya, Syria and now Egypt. He even says Israel should lose its foreign aid.

Name me another senator who does this...

 

[Peace Piper]

Sanctions are not a military intervention.

Ron Paul: Iran Sanctions = Act of War


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIO-4v8qpYc

It looks like Rand is trying to convert a few of the 24% that vote (R)
and writing off most of the 50% that don't vote at all. Doing the same thing over and over again.

Ron wasn't afraid to talk to those 50%. Now there's no one.

 

[PSYOP]

Sanctions are not a military intervention.

Don't wish to go over this again but Rand is the most antiwar senator there is. He has fought against Libya, Syria and now Egypt. He even says Israel should lose its foreign aid.

Name me another senator who does this...

Perhaps not military intervention in essence but they are nevertheless an act of economic warfare which most commonly = starvation

 

[Warlord]

PP, this gets thrown around a lot but I think he's wrong. There are dozens of countries under sanction and that have not led to a war also the sanctions themselves Rand had a hand in writing and they're not iraq type sanctions or Japan ones which led to PH. Iran will live and politicians get to posture.

 

[Warlord]

Perhaps not military intervention in essence but they are nevertheless an act of economic warfare which most commonly = starvation

Iran is not starving and the sanctions and what they apply to are quite weak despite what the politicians say. Rand actually watered them down i think.

Personally I dont agree with any sanctions but I can see why someone like Rand would vote for them in order to look tough to primary voters. If Afghanistan got sanctions in 2001 it would be a lot better than an actual war. This doesn't mean Rand wants a war with Iran or would vote for one unless they attacked the US I guess.

 

[messana]

Iran is not starving and the sanctions and what they apply to are quite weak despite what the politicians say. Rand actually watered them down i think.

SIX YEARS ago, when America and Europe were putting in place the first raft of measures to press Iran to come clean over its nuclear ambitions, the talk was of “smart” sanctions. The West, it was stressed, had no quarrel with the Iranian people—only with a regime that seemed bent on getting a nuclear bomb, or at least the capacity for making one. Yet, as sanctions have become increasingly punitive in the face of Iran’s intransigence, it is ordinary Iranians who are paying the price.

On October 1st and 2nd Iran’s rial lost more than 25% of its value against the dollar. Since the end of last year it has depreciated by over 80%, most of that in just the past month. Despite subsidies intended to help the poor, prices for staples, such as milk, bread, rice, yogurt and vegetables, have at least doubled since the beginning of the year. Chicken has become so scarce that when scant supplies become available they prompt riots. On October 3rd police in Tehran fired tear-gas at people demonstrating over the rial’s collapse. The city’s main bazaar closed because of the impossibility of quoting accurate prices.

Last month a petition with 10,000 names on it was presented to the country’s labour minister by trade unionists. It was a cry of pain. One passage read: “A staggering increase in prices has been biting in the past year, as worker’s wages in the same period have gone up by only 13%.” Unemployment is thought to be around three times higher than the official rate of 12%, and millions of unskilled factory workers are on wages well below the official poverty line of 10m rials (about $300) a month.

http://www.economist.com/node/21564229

As sanctions have started to take their toll, prices of fruit and sugar, among other staples, have soared – in some cases showing three- and four-fold increases. The latest controversy surrounds long queues for discounted poultry, an essential ingredient of Persian food, which has seen its price double since last year, causing what has been dubbed a "chicken crisis" and prompting demonstrations.

Iran's Haemophilia Society recently blamed the sanctions for risking thousands of children's lives due to a lack of proper drugs, the opposition website Rahesabz reported.

Sanctions, too, are compounding the country's economic woes, sending the national currency falling to a record low and making dollars hard to come by.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2012/aug/10/sanctions-iran-ordinary-people-target

 

[Christian Liberty]

He has to keep everything on the table. Rand could well become President, but I don't think that alone will make Iran friendly with the US. The Iranians are refusing to rule anything out, but aren't doing much either. Rand's using the same strategy.

I don't think it will make them friendly, but that doesn't mean they will attack us...

You may be right about Rand's intent: but the thing is, nobody really knows. With Ron we knew.

I'm not opposing Rand, I just wish he'd be a full blown peace supporter rather than compromising his dad's ideology with that of the relatively moderate hawkish agenda...

 

[William R]

Another NeoCon Jew after Rand. Get used to it. IMHO, the Neocons would rather blowup the Republican Party than see Rand get the nomination.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Another NeoCon Jew after Rand. Get used to it. IMHO, the Neocons would rather blowup the Republican Party than see Rand get the nomination.

Indeed, her use of the violinist routine is quite similar to the left's use of the "a broken clock is right twice a day" nonsense. Fact is, Carney is on defense in the recent press secretary and this shows the ineptitude of the Obama admin in regards to their stance on foreign aid here. By consequence, even McCain pulled a 180 yet Rubin doesn't mention that and no I didn't bother to read the full article. There has been nothing that Rand has been even close to neoconville on in terms of foreign policy and that really bugs her and her ilk since he's owning the debate and the people are agreeing with him. People have tried to make their case on Iran sanctions but Rand's vote on the watered down version actually subverted preemptive strike lingo that was instilled in the other resolution so it was a win overall. Of course, the tone of the foreign policy debate has come a long ways from back then and it's all thanks to Rand and the current policies backfiring on the idgits calling the shots. Rand has done more in the last 3 years as a Senator to defang the true neocons and turn many in the party against them than I ever expected -> Fact.

 

[cajuncocoa]

According to EPJ, Rubin also rushed out to tweet the link to the attack piece on Jack Hunter and tied it to Rand
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2013/07/hit-piece-on-rand-paul-aide-will-rand.html

They're showing their desperation.

 

[compromise]

Another NeoCon Jew after Rand. Get used to it. IMHO, the Neocons would rather blowup the Republican Party than see Rand get the nomination.

Why does it matter that she's a Jew?

 

[Philhelm]

Why does it matter that she's a Jew?

They're poisoning our wells.

 

[vita3]

Ron Paul wasn't even allowed to debate in the Jewish Neo-con 2012 Presidential event.

 

[muh_roads]

If the neocons want us to accept their foreign policy, they first need to come clean on why we're actually doing all this crap in the first place.

We do what we do to preserve the petrodollar and keep OPEC nations trading in US Dollars. But once that is lost, hyperinflation begins.

They will never come clean with that because the answer is to reduce foreign oil dependence. The elite have been making a killing and have been for decades.

 

[muh_roads]

Why does it matter that she's a Jew?

Follow the money. Our monetary system at almost every level is controlled by Jewish people. Very strange.

 

[PSYOP]

Iran is not starving and the sanctions and what they apply to are quite weak despite what the politicians say. Rand actually watered them down i think.

Personally I dont agree with any sanctions but I can see why someone like Rand would vote for them in order to look tough to primary voters. If Afghanistan got sanctions in 2001 it would be a lot better than an actual war. This doesn't mean Rand wants a war with Iran or would vote for one unless they attacked the US I guess.

How do you know? Do you have contacts in Iran? Do you visit quiet often?