Nebraska Senate Race?

[MichaelDavis]

SCF only looks at fiscal issues. The neocons new strategy is to promote hardcore fiscal cons who also want to blow up the world (see: Marco Rubio, Tom Cotton, Liz Cheney)

http://congress.freedomworks.org/legislators/tom-cotton

 

[compromise]

He's the kind of guy who, like Rubio, knows when the scorecard is coming out and makes sure to vote the way they want him to in order to improve his score

Cotton is far worse than Rubio on both fiscal issues and foreign policy. Cotton is a complete fraud who opposed defunding Obamacare.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

These are the races that we shouldn't be apathetic toward. Whoever wins this primary will almost definitely win the general election. You've got someone like Osborn who may not be 5 star liberty material, but at least seemingly has his head on straight. Compare him to someone who would be a fervent supporter of neoconservatism on the US Senate floor. We talk about how much we hate McCain, Graham, Ayotte, Rubio, etc, but when it comes to actually stopping these enemies of the people from getting in office, I see nothing. I honestly don't even think the "losertarian" movement is at fault here; it seems to be more of a general apathy to actually achieving political success.

 

[AnarchoCapitalist]

First poll shows Osborn up big FWIW ...


He's not 5 star, as the poster above says, but Osborn will vote against Big Government more than he will vote for it. He has proven to actually cut (yes CUT) at the state level, so he does have a track record.


Stay FAR away from the Viper Sasse though ...

 

[Spoa]

I don't think Sasse is as neocon as some of you are making him seem to be:

DW: So I’ve asked a lot about health care. Different question: If the Syria crisis is mostly behind us, what do you think of the resolution to that?

BS: What was the resolution? The diminishing of the American brand in the world?

DW: When it came to chemical weapons, having the Security Council setting up the program instead of sending missiles in there.

BS: I’m a guy who’s running a college, and getting to know the people in Nebraska, I’m not an expert on these kinds of issues, but from where I sit and listen to Nebraskans, you don’t hear the president making any public case for why there is a clear national security interest in country X, country Y, country Z, and I think the American people overwhelmingly believe that the first duty of government is to defend us from enemies foreign and domestic, so we need a robust military to fulfill its primary duties, and then we want to be incredibly reticent to ever use it. We want to be strong enough to do anything that we needed to do to protect our people, but reticent to ever get in to conflicts where Congress is voting to send somebody else’s kid to die.

When you listen to people in Nebraska, and they hear the Syria conversation, the thing you hear every town hall you're at is, "If we go to war in Syria, why wouldn’t we be in war in 20 countries right now? How do we know that his one is a higher priority than any other?" And there’s so little trust of and good will toward this city that there’s just not a lot of confidence that serious adults are helping to create order. What are our risks? I don’t think the American people have heard President Obama make a compelling case.

http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2013/11/01/ben_sasse_the_next_next_next_next_ted_cruz.html

 

[Spoa]

Here's another article:

For a time, he was charged with addressing a problem in Iraq where women were having babies at home rather than risk going to a hospital. He spent a week in the Green (protected) and Red (dangerous) Zones of Baghdad. There, he met soldiers who were serving their third 15-month tour of duty in six years.

“It was harrowing to see,” he said.

But since he’s not yet a Senate candidate, just engaged in a “listening tour” that should culminate in a decision by mid-July, he won’t say whether the war was a mistake. He does say he’s a believer in the Powell Doctrine, former Defense Secretary Colin’s Powell’s belief that nations should be reticent to go to war but do so with “unquestionable resolve” once all other political, economic and diplomatic means have been exhausted.

http://watchdog.org/90508/a-new-face-in-nebraska-politics-ben-sasse/

I like both him and Osborn and think either will be good for Nebraska.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

At this point, I'd go with Osborn in this race.

No 100% pure liberty candidate in this race yet.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

First poll shows Osborn up big FWIW ...

He's not 5 star, as the poster above says, but Osborn will vote against Big Government more than he will vote for it. He has proven to actually cut (yes CUT) at the state level, so he does have a track record.

Stay FAR away from the Viper Sasse though ...

Good to know.

 

[compromise]

I'd support Sasse if he wins the primary.

 

[Bastiat's The Law]

So who are the best candidates here for federal and local offices?

 

[Brian4Liberty]

I'd support Sasse if he wins the primary.

You going to send him money?

 

[compromise]

You going to send him money?

That depends on how he's polling and what more we find out about him in the coming months.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

I'd support Sasse if he wins the primary.

You would support the idea of a neocon in the Senate who would probably be stuck there for decades?

 

[compromise]

You would support the idea of a neocon in the Senate who would probably be stuck there for decades?

If what Spoa said is true, I'm not entirely convinced he's a "neocon" in the vein of Kelly Ayotte or Tom Cotton. I'd have to know more about him first.

If he's more like Ron Johnson or Tim Scott, then I would probably support him.

 

[MichaelDavis]

If what Spoa said is true, I'm not entirely convinced he's a "neocon" in the vein of Kelly Ayotte or Tom Cotton. I'd have to know more about him first.

If he's more like Ron Johnson or Tim Scott, then I would probably support him.

Kelly Ayotte and Tom Cotton > Statist Democrats.

 

[Anti-Neocon]

If what Spoa said is true, I'm not entirely convinced he's a "neocon" in the vein of Kelly Ayotte or Tom Cotton. I'd have to know more about him first.

If he's more like Ron Johnson or Tim Scott, then I would probably support him.

Judging by where his support is coming from, I bet he is definitely a neocon, probably very close to Ayotte or Cotton. However, he is also running for election, so he is going to say what's popular at the time. Keep in mind that also-US Senate hopeful Liz Cheney is also adopting the same exact kind of rhetoric in regards to Syria.

Ayotte and Rubio got into the Senate through the Tea Party wave, not by talking like neocons. But all the neocons loved them and magically when they got into office guess what - they started talking like neocons! We can't afford to let Sasse or Cheney do the same thing.

"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." - George W. Bush

 

[FSP-Rebel]

Kelly Ayotte and Tom Cotton > Statist Democrats.

Not in terms of our standing in the GOP as a whole. We don't need fresh young neocon talent w/ legit resumes stacking up against the likes of our trio in the Senate thus far. More of them would not push average republican Senators in our direction on critical policy decisions.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

Judging by where his support is coming from, I bet he is definitely a neocon, probably very close to Ayotte or Cotton. However, he is also running for election, so he is going to say what's popular at the time. Keep in mind that also-US Senate hopeful Liz Cheney is also adopting the same exact kind of rhetoric in regards to Syria.

Ayotte and Rubio got into the Senate through the Tea Party wave, not by talking like neocons. But all the neocons loved them and magically when they got into office guess what - they started talking like neocons! We can't afford to let Sasse or Cheney do the same thing.

"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." - George W. Bush

Agree. Vetting is very important.

 

[Brian4Liberty]

First poll shows Osborn up big FWIW ...


He's not 5 star, as the poster above says, but Osborn will vote against Big Government more than he will vote for it. He has proven to actually cut (yes CUT) at the state level, so he does have a track record.


Stay FAR away from the Viper Sasse though ...

Do you have a link to that poll?

Is it this one?

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box...ws-osborn-leading-nebraska-senate-gop-primary

 

[jurgs01]

Judging by where his support is coming from, I bet he is definitely a neocon, probably very close to Ayotte or Cotton. However, he is also running for election, so he is going to say what's popular at the time. Keep in mind that also-US Senate hopeful Liz Cheney is also adopting the same exact kind of rhetoric in regards to Syria.

Ayotte and Rubio got into the Senate through the Tea Party wave, not by talking like neocons. But all the neocons loved them and magically when they got into office guess what - they started talking like neocons! We can't afford to let Sasse or Cheney do the same thing.

"Fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again." - George W. Bush

I agree we need to be careful, but hearsay is not the remedy. Is it because he was a Bush appointee? Remember, that the Bush campaigning in 2000 is someone that a lot of us would have supported. The inner-circle of Neocon vipers had his full ear after 9/11, but I'm sure there were some good people he appointed throughout government.

Like I said, I am open that Sasse may be a Neocon in disguise, but want to see something more substantial.