NDAA Indefinite Detention Vote - Smith-Amash Amendment Fails 182-238 (roll call inside)

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UPDATE:

The Smith-Amash amendment failed by a vote of 182-238:
http://thehill.com/blogs/defcon-hil...3-house-backs-indefinite-detention-on-us-soil

roll call:
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll270.xml


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The House will be voting on amendments to the 2013 NDAA bill TODAY.

Please contact your Congressman and urge him to SUPPORT the Smith-Amash amendment to the 2013 NDAA.

The amendment explicitly bans indefinite detention and military commissions from the US and repeals section 1022 from the 2012 NDAA. The amendment also guarantees that persons arrested on U.S. soil under the Afghanistan AUMF or the NDAA will be charged for their alleged wrongdoing and will receive a fair trial.

Justin Amash said the Republican leadership is pushing the Gohmert amendment, which says "you get due process if you're entitled to due process. Sounds nice but doesn't do anything."

Here's a great fact sheet Amash wrote to counter all the myths against indefinite detention:
http://amash.house.gov/sites/amash.house.gov/files/NDAA Fact Sheet.pdf

Find your Congressman here:
http://house.gov/representatives/

Again, urge them to SUPPORT the Smith-Amash amendment and OPPOSE the Gohmert amendment to the 2013 NDAA to protect our Constitutional rights.

Stay up to date on this issue by following Justin Amash on Facebook:
http://www.facebook.com/repjustinamash?v=wall

Co-Sponsors:

Justin Amash (R-MI-3)
Howard Berman (D-CA-28)
John Duncan, Jr (R-TN-2)
John Garamendi (D-CA-10)
Paul Gosar (R-AZ-1)
Mazie Hirono (D-HI-2)
Sheila Jackson Lee (D-TX-18)
Hank Johnson, Jr (D-GA-4)
Raul Labrador (R-ID-1)
Ron Paul (R-TX-14)
Adam Smith (D-WA-9) (Sponsor)
Scott Tipton (R-CO-3)

Supporters:

John Conyers, Jr (D-MI-14)
Morgan Griffith (R-VA-9)
Barbara Lee (D-CA-9)
George Miller (D-CA-7)
Jerrold Nadler (D-NY-8)
Nancy Pelosi (D-CA-8)
Chellie Pingree (D-ME-1)

Against:

Louie Gohmert (R-TX-1)
Jeff Landry (R-LA-3)
Howard McKeon (R-CA-25)
Tom Rooney (R-FL-16)
Mac Thornberry (R-TX-13)
Allen West (R-FL-22)


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Ron Paul speaking in support of the Smith-Amash amendment.
 
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[email protected] said:
Actually a federal judge in New York yesterday already put a stop to that part of the NDAA. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-05-16/military-detention-law-blocked-by-new-york-judge.html
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That is not the final say on this issue. There have been many federal judges who have invalidated ObamaCare but the issue still remains.

Also, the article says this:

Forrest’s order prevents enforcement of the provision of the statute pending further order of the court or an amendment to the statute by Congress.
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I called my rep Brad Miller and spoke to a lady in his office. Explained the issue, left my name and address. Now I only need to wait for FBI to come knock on my door.
 
I called my rep too, Brad Sherman. I gave my info to the lady who answered and asked if she had been receiving a lot of calls today - she said yes. I told her how important this is and she said she would pass that on to BS (yes, I am initialing him on purpose). I asked if he would be in the office before he takes the vote and she said yes. Then I asked that when she tells BS, to put her hands on each shoulder and shake him for me. She was giggling and I was serious. Maybe she will think it's funny enough that she'll actually do it!
 
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Does anyone know what amendment number this is? There's a lot of amendments, and I'm sure Amash has more than one.
 
Martin Silenus said:
Does anyone know what amendment number this is? There's a lot of amendments, and I'm sure Amash has more than one.
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Amendment #151 but it is referred to as the Smith-Amash amendment by Justin Amash in all his letters to his colleagues. Also, this is the only Smith-Amash amendment.
 
jkr said:
IS THERE AN HR # YET?
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These amendments are usually referred to by their names. Amash has written several letters to all his colleagues and published several articles and not once does he mention the Amendment #. He refers to it as the Smith-Amash amendment. Stick to using that phrase because that is what it's known by..the Smith-Amash amendment to the 2013 NDAA.
 
I did.

NDAA is the overall defense funding bill. You can't get rid of the whole thing, but this part should be a no brainer.
 
Did some more research. HR4310 is the 2013 NDAA. Like someone said above, Amendment No. 151 is the Smith-Amash amendment.

Also important is Amendment No.95 which is sponsored by Rep. Conyers (MI), but also has Dr. Paul as a cosponsor. This amendment would make sure that nothing in the bill may be construed as authorizing military action against Iran.

For more on how HR4310 authorizes military action, see Rep. Kucinich's article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/rep-dennis-kucinich/ndaa-authorizes-war-again_b_1524474.html
 
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Martin Silenus said:
Also important is Amendment No.95 which is sponsored by Rep. Conyers (MI), but also has Dr. Paul as a cosponsor. This amendment would make sure that nothing in the bill may be construed as authorizing military action against Iran.
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Thanks. These are the amendments Ron Paul has co-sponsored:

Conyers Amendment #95
Would clarify that nothing in the bill shall be construed as authorizing the use of force against Iran.

McGovern Amednment #101
Would require that the President carry out accelerated transition from U.S. Armed Forces to the Government of Afghanistan of combat operations by no later than the end of 2013; of military and security operations by the end of 2014, accompanied by the redeployment of U.S. troops; and pursue robust negotiations to address Afghanistan’s and the region’s security and stability. It is the sense of Congress that should the president determine the necessity for post-2014 deployment of U.S. troops in Afghanistan, the Congress should authorize any such presence of troops.

Smith-Amash Amendment #151
Would strike section 1022 of the FY2012 NDAA and amends Section 1021 of same Act to eliminate indefinite military detention of any person detained under AUMF authority in US, territories or possessions by providing immediate transfer to trial and proceedings by a court established under Article III of the Constitution of the United states or by an appropriate State court.
 
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Debate has not started and many Representatives are in their office RIGHT NOW reviewing the 142 amendments that will be up for vote later today.

NOW is the time to call or email your Representative. They do feel pressure when they are contacted regarding the same issue by constituents. It makes them actually take a second look on the issue.
 
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My letter to my congressman:


Please support Mr. Amash and Mr. Smith's amendment to the NDAA bill in voting today. This is the Smith-Amash amendment to the 2013 NDAA. The previous bill passed was a complete travesty for all Americans and tramples constitutional rights, one NY judge has already struck down the portions of the 2012 NDAA that effectively nullify 4th and 5th amendment rights. YOU can help rectify this abomination! If it is not changed it will lead only to more needless legal battles and can potentially harm many innocent Americans. I know you voted for this unconstitutional legislation originally and how extremely out of character it was for you to support a bill that in no way makes Americans any safer and assumes power. If you do not support remedying this situation it will be remembered when you have an opponent for your seat at election time.
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