NC governor approval tanks after signing anti-abortion bill.

Every Republican governor tanks 5-6 months into their agenda. Liberals protest and drive up the negatives, then things simmer down once people realize things aren't bad at all. The same happened with Walker and Kasich in Wisconsin and Ohio. Kasich's approval was in the 30s at this point of his governorship. Now he's cruising towards reelection, same with Walker.
 
I stand with McCroy on this. Stand up for what's right, even if you standing alone-which he is not.

Life is sacred, and should be protected.
 
Man I misread the OP title at first. I thought it read NC governor approves a tank after signing anti-abortion bill.

I was like man... that is one big piece of police state enacting pork tied on to that abortion bill.
 
I believe in the long run white Evangelicals will be overwhelmed by a coalition of black and hispanic voters. NC has a booming hispanic population.

Most blacks and Hispanics i know are also evangelical, or at least attend religious services. Lots of churches in the area have multiple services to accomodate the influx of non natives- my church has several.
 
If you're going to ban abortion, doing it by regulating businesses out of existence is so backwards and counterproductive that I'm not even sure what to say here. How are you supposed to adequately fight against Democratic-favored regulations on businesses when you're doing the same thing?

The low hanging fruit and market-oriented solution is simply not publicly funding abortion services and providers.
 
McCroy is right and that's all that matters. Democrats can't argue against more regulation of abortion.
 
[TABLE="class: wikitable"]
Presidential elections results [TR]
[TH]Year[/TH]
[TH]Republican[/TH]
[TH]Democratic[/TH]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2012[/TD]
[TD]50.39% 2,270,395[/TD]
[TD]48.35% 2,178,391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]49.38% 2,128,474[/TD]
[TD]49.70% 2,142,651[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]56.02% 1,961,166[/TD]
[TD]43.58% 1,525,849[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2000[/TD]
[TD]56.03% 1,631,163[/TD]
[TD]43.20% 1,257,692[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1996[/TD]
[TD]48.73% 1,225,938[/TD]
[TD]44.04% 1,107,849[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1992[/TD]
[TD]43.44% 1,134,661[/TD]
[TD]42.65% 1,114,042[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1988[/TD]
[TD]57.97% 1,237,258[/TD]
[TD]41.71% 890,167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1984[/TD]
[TD]61.90% 1,346,481[/TD]
[TD]37.89% 824,287[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1980[/TD]
[TD]49.30% 915,018[/TD]
[TD]47.18% 875,635[/TD]
[/TR]
[/TABLE]

OK. So it's a red state federally except for 2008. What is your point? NC votes red federally and more blue locally, particularly in the cities. Again, what is your point with the chart?
 
The NC folks are speaking truth and wisdom in this thread. They know what's up. I have my own issues with McCrory, but you gotta be REALLY careful about taking the media's word around here. Local print and televised media is or has become something like "all MSNBC all the time." You shoulda heard what these loonies said about me! lol

NC has always been a red state that was gerrymandered blue. The 2008 General was a true aberration. It's technically possible that the 2016 General will go blue out of kickback from some pretty significant strategic and tactical blunders by the NCGA, but unlikely.

We live in a weird state. Rural Dems are more conservative than the Republicans.

NC will trend blue over the course of say 20 years because the NCGOP is doing everything they can to piss off Millennials. They could change course and start picking up the youth vote, but the Party leadership is still trying to figure out how to move the Millennials to embrace the bluehairs rather than moving the bluehairs to embrace the Millennials. It doesn't work that way that the Party Leadership doesn't get it. IF they figure it out and get their act together, we have a chance at turning that trend around.

People do have short goldfish-like memories, and the media is going all indigo-blue around here, so there may be some blowback from the current General Assembly, but that blowback will hit in 2014, which should protect 2016 to some extent.

Anything you get from the media about NC politics is probably going to be so distorted as to be unrecognizable, or a flat out lie. TRUST me, there is plenty to grouse about wrt Republicans in this State, but the media is behaving irrationally. They don't cover the failings they should, while they will cover a mouse turd and turn it into elephant dung.

Whatever you do, do not take the media's word for anything that happens in this State. That's not a defense of the GOP, they do plenty wrong that the media never bothers to cover. :rolleyes:
 
The Republicans put the abortion restrictions inside a motorcycle bill.

I laughed out loud. It's not really funny but maybe I just read that sentence and had no other fitting emotion.

Although, EDIT:

Now we'll never be certain whether it was the abortion bill that hurt the approval or another pussified motor vehicle safety law. Should have kept them separate. Apparently this happened about a month ago.
 
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I laughed out loud. It's not really funny but maybe I just read that sentence and had no other fitting emotion.

Although, EDIT:

Now we'll never be certain whether it was the abortion bill that hurt the approval or another pussified motor vehicle safety law. Should have kept them separate. Apparently this happened about a month ago.

How many people care about motor safety laws? Of course, it was abortion bill.
 
OK. So it's a red state federally except for 2008. What is your point? NC votes red federally and more blue locally, particularly in the cities. Again, what is your point with the chart?

I think Obama performance reflects the long-term demographic and cultural change. Similar to Virginia. I don't see a Republican winning a 56% of vote in NC again any time soon.
 
Don't be stupid, people. The poll is completely legit. Even McCrory himself had to admit his approval numbers are free falling.


LOL. The nerve of this man!

Maybe you're right, but we've been watching PPP play this game for years now. If this poll happens to be the only legit early poll they've produced since they were created, then so be it. In the meantime, I'm filing it in the "Whatever" section of my brain.

Meanwhile, here's a chart of how the big pollsters fared in 2012. PPP is in the bottom half.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...and-worst-in-the-2012-presidential-race/?_r=0
 
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I think Obama performance reflects the long-term demographic and cultural change. Similar to Virginia. I don't see a Republican winning a 56% of vote in NC again any time soon.

It's the migrations that will kill North Carolina in the long run. Too many of my Yankee Zombies are moving down there.
 
If you're going to ban abortion, doing it by regulating businesses out of existence is so backwards and counterproductive that I'm not even sure what to say here. How are you supposed to adequately fight against Democratic-favored regulations on businesses when you're doing the same thing?
True. Regulation of abortion businesses exemplifies everything the Republican party and Conservative movement claim to oppose. I also find it funny how the Democrats are using libertarian rhetoric on matters related to abortion. They oppose regulation of abortion providers on the grounds that the regs are unnecessary, intrusive, raise costs and intefere with the decisions best left to the individuals. Now, the Democrats would never make this kind of argument for any other industry. Doesn't change the fact that they are completely right on this one.

The low hanging fruit and market-oriented solution is simply not publicly funding abortion services and providers.
The problem of abortion, if you see it as a problem, has no market solutions. Abortion itself is a hugely popular medical service. There was a vibrant underground market for abortions long before Roe v. Wade.
 
It's the migrations that will kill North Carolina in the long run. Too many of my Yankee Zombies are moving down there.

While I have no love for New York, aren't people who vote Republican, at least in most cases, kind of zombies too?
 
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