NC governor approval tanks after signing anti-abortion bill.

[JCDenton0451]

Pro-life agenda is alienating Democrats and independent voters.
http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/08/mccrory-continues-to-drop.html

PPP's monthly North Carolina poll finds Pat McCrory's approval rating dropping for the first time into the 30s. 39% of voters approve of the job he's doing to 51% who disapprove. Independents, who supported him overwhelmingly last year, have soured and now give him poor marks by a 41/49 margin. His once respectable crossover support from Democrats is now becoming close to nonexistent at 14% approval. And even with Republicans he's down to a 69/20 spread.

McCrory's signing of a controversial abortion bill and the way he's handled it is responsible for a lot of his problems. Just 27% of voters think he kept his campaign promise not to enact any further restrictions on abortion, to 50% who think he broke it. And 57% think it was inappropriate for him to give protesters cookies instead of meeting with them with just 26% thinking that was an acceptable action. Even among Republican voters only 44% consider McCrory's cookie episode to have been acceptable.


Abortion's just the start of what voters are unhappy with the Republicans in control of state government about though. Just 33% say they support the budget that was passed to 52% who are opposed. And there's particular anger about the end of the sales tax holiday- 55% of voters say they disagree with that move to only 34% who think it was ok.


The upshot of all this is that 50% of voters in the state think the General Assembly is causing North Carolina national embarrassment to 34% who disagree with that sentiment. Only 35% approve of the job Republicans are doing overall of running state government to 56% who give them poor marks, and 51% in the state think Republican control has been a bad thing for North Carolina to just 38% that consider it a positive.

Voters now say that if there was an election for the legislature today they would vote Democratic by a 50/41 margin, matching the largest lead we've ever found for the party on this measure.

 

[libertyjam]

http://www.newsobserver.com/2013/07/30/3068013/mccrory-signs-nc-abortion-bill.html

The abortion legislation, Senate Bill 353, requires clinics that perform the procedure to meet standards similar to surgical centers. It also says health care providers can opt out of performing an abortion if it’s against their beliefs. And it would stop government insurance plans from paying for the procedure.

McCrory had threatened to veto a more stringent version of the bill passed by the Senate, citing his campaign promise. But softened language in the House’s version of the bill changed McCrory’s mind.

“It is incredibly disappointing that Gov. McCrory has broken his campaign promise and signed an extreme law that will severely restrict abortion access and comprehensive health care for countless North Carolina women,” Sarah Preston, policy director of the ACLU of North Carolina, said in a emailed statement.

So similar to, but not as extensive as Texas' new abortion restrictions, well good for him. PPP can take their partisan biased poll and fly kites with it.

 

[jkob]

PPP is located in North Carolina and is incredibly biased when it comes to shit like this. They're always pushing an agenda. They are worthless until about 2 weeks before an election.

 

[JCDenton0451]

PPP polls are generally very accurate. 39% approval isn't good by any measure. It was 48% in May.

This is what happens when a pol campaigns on jobs and the economy, then starts pushing religious agenda in office.

 

[Keith and stuff]

Interesting. That's pretty funny, though. Giving protestors cookies.

 

[lib3rtarian]

The Republicans put the abortion restrictions inside a motorcycle bill.

 

[jkob]

PPP polls are generally very accurate. 39% approval isn't good by any measure. It was 48% in May.

This is what happens when a pol campaigns on jobs and the economy, then starts pushing religious agenda in office.

They're accurate when they want to be, usually about 2 weeks before an election. When they have an agenda to push, they're not. Do you believe that Elizabeth Colbert-Busch was ever up 9 points on Mark Sanford? PPP wanted people to believe that to inject money into the race in Colbert's favor, establishment Republicans justified cutting off support for Sanford because of it. Sanford still won going away...

 

[HOLLYWOOD]

Another manipulated poll.. just like all the bullshit that went in Wisconsin and against Governor Scott Walker.


It's all 'Marxist Manipulations of Propaganda' of today's Business Media and Special Interest. Corporate Media is just as corrupt and controlled by the elitists... so throw it all out and let the unsuspecting know, the polls and media are rigged disinformation and controlled environments over the people, to fool the people, to change their opinions and votes.

 

[devil21]

The same state in which a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage passed widely a year ago? NC is basically a few liberal cities (Raleigh, Charlotte) surrounded by conservative rural country. PPP probably just polled Raleigh and Charlotte to get their numbers and left the most conservative areas of the state untouched.

McCrory just signed a big voter ID bill too.

 

[Christian Liberty]

While lying is surely a sin, its better to lie than to allow murder.

 

[JCDenton0451]

The same state in which a constitutional amendment banning gay marriage passed widely a year ago? NC is basically a few liberal cities (Raleigh, Charlotte) surrounded by conservative rural country. PPP probably just polled Raleigh and Charlotte to get their numbers and left the most conservative areas of the state untouched.

McCrory just signed a big voter ID bill too.

Nonsense. Gay marriage and Abortion are two separate issues. Obama himself opposed gay marriage until 2012.

This is a state that Obama narrowly won in 2008, and narrowly lost in 2012. Clearly trending blue.

 

[JCDenton0451]

While lying is surely a sin, its better to lie than to allow murder.

And the reason socon politicians do this is because deep down they know most voters don't support their agenda.

 

[devil21]

Nonsense. Gay marriage and Abortion are two separate issues. Obama himself opposed gay marriage until 2012.

Not to the evangelicals that make up practically the entire rural population of NC. You will not find "pro-gay marriage, anti-abortion" types in any notable numbers in NC, particularly outside of Raleigh and Charlotte (due to the blacks that hate gay marriage but welcome abortions that make up a large percentage of the liberal voters in those cities). The two issues go hand-in-hand to the rural evangelicals.

This is a state that Obama narrowly won in 2008, and narrowly lost in 2012. Clearly trending blue.

Are you from NC? The state was blue in 2008. Red in 2012. First Republican controlled state house in about 100 years elected in 2012. The trend is not toward blue. It is away from blue.

 

[phill4paul]

Not to the evangelicals that make up practically the entire rural population of NC. You will not find "pro-gay marriage, anti-abortion" types in any notable numbers in NC, particularly outside of Raleigh and Charlotte. The two issues go hand-in-hand to evangelicals.



Are you from NC? The state was blue in 2008. Red in 2012. First Republican controlled state house in about 100 years elected in 2012. The trend is not toward blue. It is away from blue.

Be wary of the whiplash. As a Carolinian I can honestly say that there will be much contesting and it could very well end up reversing any gains the Reps have made. Truthfully, I'm pretty damned disappointed in them. If they keep it up it may go back for another 100 years.

 

[devil21]

Be wary of the whiplash. As a Carolinian I can honestly say that there will be much contesting and it could very well end up reversing any gains the Reps have made. Truthfully, I'm pretty damned disappointed in them. If they keep it up it may go back for another 100 years.

No doubt that is a possibility but the trend currently is toward red. IMHO, what will matter is whether another RINO is the GOP nominee or not. Voter registration numbers are in Dem's favor but as always it's about who turns out for their candidate. There will not be "Hope and Change" fervor for Clinton as there was for Obama.

eta: fwiw, Ive noticed all the local news broadcasts have been turned into liberal outlets. Even the local Fox News affiliate, that was always more conservative in coverage, was changed over to a bunch of liberal talking points recently after being rebranded as a "CW" affiliate. The Fox affiliate moved to another channel and has no news programs anymore. All local news is lefty talking points now in Charlotte.

 

[phill4paul]

No doubt that is a possibility but the trend currently is toward red. IMHO, what will matter is whether another RINO is the GOP nominee or not. Voter registration numbers are in Dem's favor but as always it's about who turns out for their candidate. There will not be "Hope and Change" fervor for Clinton as there was for Obama.

It remains to be seen. The numbers are still there. Personally, until the Reps actually start working on bringing industry BACK to N.C. (manufacturing) I could care less about their evangelical vote agenda. Unless I see some positive change I might well be sitting out the next elections.

 

[JCDenton0451]

Are you from NC? The state was blue in 2008. Red in 2012. First Republican controlled state house in about 100 years elected in 2012. The trend is not toward blue. It is away from blue.

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[TH]Democratic[/TH]
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[TR]
[TD]2012[/TD]
[TD]50.39% 2,270,395[/TD]
[TD]48.35% 2,178,391[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2008[/TD]
[TD]49.38% 2,128,474[/TD]
[TD]49.70% 2,142,651[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]2004[/TD]
[TD]56.02% 1,961,166[/TD]
[TD]43.58% 1,525,849[/TD]
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[TR]
[TD]2000[/TD]
[TD]56.03% 1,631,163[/TD]
[TD]43.20% 1,257,692[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1996[/TD]
[TD]48.73% 1,225,938[/TD]
[TD]44.04% 1,107,849[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1992[/TD]
[TD]43.44% 1,134,661[/TD]
[TD]42.65% 1,114,042[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1988[/TD]
[TD]57.97% 1,237,258[/TD]
[TD]41.71% 890,167[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1984[/TD]
[TD]61.90% 1,346,481[/TD]
[TD]37.89% 824,287[/TD]
[/TR]
[TR]
[TD]1980[/TD]
[TD]49.30% 915,018[/TD]
[TD]47.18% 875,635[/TD]
[/TR]
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[angelatc]

They're accurate when they want to be, usually about 2 weeks before an election. When they have an agenda to push, they're not. Do you believe that Elizabeth Colbert-Busch was ever up 9 points on Mark Sanford? PPP wanted people to believe that to inject money nto the race in Colbert's favor, establishment Republicans justified cutting off support for Sanford because of it. Sanford still won going away...

Exactly. They're a tool for the Democrat fund raising machine. Nobody would donate if the candidate didn't have a chance, so they make the races look competitive to get Democrat donors excited. Throw in the sacred cow of abortion, and you've got yourself a fundraising letter right there in the news.

 

[JCDenton0451]

I believe in the long run white Evangelicals will be overwhelmed by a coalition of black and hispanic voters. NC has a booming hispanic population.

 

[JCDenton0451]

Don't be stupid, people. The poll is completely legit. Even McCrory himself had to admit his approval numbers are free falling.

"The last three weeks we've had a big decline," McCrory said, according to WNCT 9. "But listen, I'm shocked they're that high because we're stepping on the toes of the status quo."

LOL. The nerve of this man!