NASA To Trigger Massive Explosion On the Moon In Search of Ice

You sound as if this is one of your pet hobbies too, Matt; have you ever read about Project Orion, back in the 50's?
No, I grew up in Orlando. All of my friends dads were either defense engineers, or worked at NASA.


That's the scope of the scientific knowledge that would be utterly destroyed by any a surface detonation in even a small area, and this is not a small area we're talking about; its actually somewhere between 350 and 500 metric tons being thrown over a VAST area. This isn't progress, it doesn't display any scientific finesse; it's the equivalent of taking a sledgehammer to archaeological artifacts to see what they're made of.
The mass of the moon is 7.3477 × 1022 kg. You are talking about a very tiny and negligible fraction of that mass and of the surface area.




Irreplaceable scientific data that would be eradicated by this mission
Only on a very small area of the lunar surface.

I don't think we shouldn't blast lunar material six miles into space just to look for water.
Well it's the best choice they presently have. They can't send serious drilling / excavating equipment up there.
 
So you feel it is legitimate and morally right to steal my money for the sake of securing individual rights? Which individuals? Not mine if I am being stolen from. :mad:
How is government supposed to fund its actions to secure individual rights?
 
Furthermore, how is funding NASA, for the sake of protecting us from natural disasters, loss of natural resources, as well as for scientific expansion ANY different than funding socialized healthcare for the sake of protecting us from bad health, personal disasters, etc.?

Say no to socialized medicine, say yes to socialized space protection and research??
 
If you want government for the sake of security, safety, protection, etc., at least say that. Don't pretend that it is for the sake of "individual rights" when the only way you can think to "protect" them is by violating them.
 
I've got to admit, I recoil in horror at this current NASA idea, and here's why.

According to rock samples taken from the surface, the age of the moon has been estimated at 4 billion years. The moon isn't subject to erosion; footprints from the Apollo moon landings are still there 40 years later, as well as evidence for countless impacts from space over those billions of years. That's due to no atmosphere/air/storms, no surface water, no tectonic activity. The only things that affect any changes to the moon's surface are either impacts from meteorites (which are actually rare), human exploration, and the solar wind that pushes fine particles up and out of the gravitational pull of the moon. Evidence of this kind of ejected particle erosion has been confirmed by discovery of rocky meteorites found in Antarctica which have been chemically identified as having come from the surface of Mars.

That's the scope of the scientific knowledge that would be utterly destroyed by any a surface detonation in even a small area, and this is not a small area we're talking about; its actually somewhere between 350 and 500 metric tons being thrown over a VAST area. This isn't progress, it doesn't display any scientific finesse; it's the equivalent of taking a sledgehammer to archaeological artifacts to see what they're made of.

Irreplaceable scientific data that would be eradicated by this mission; the primary reason for the moon missions to go slowly, to preserve, catalog and analyse it. Howard Carter didn't blast his way into King Tut's tomb for similar reasons; likewise, I don't think we shouldn't blast lunar material six miles into space just to look for water.

In short, this is yet another example of government failing miserably at a task that could be done 100x better by a private institution.

+1

Surgeons use scalpels not machetes.
 
As in war bonds?

As in try to convince me and everyone else to willingly hand their money over to this or that organization, I don't care about the specifics. Just don't put a gun to my head or threaten me with jail time to motivate me to "donate".
 
Is there already such a shortage of ice on Earth that they now need to look for it somewhere else?
 
For the slow learners out there, *COUGH*...

http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/archives/023197.html

Here’s something to lighten the mood. The first privately-funded and privately-developed rocket, Falcon 1, has successfully made it into space. Falcon 1 was developed by SpaceX, a space-transportation startup company founded by PayPal co-founder Elon Musk. Eight minutes after launch, Falcon 1 reached a speed of 5200 meters per second and passed above the International Space Station. Pretty cool.

You can watch the whole launch and flight into space on YouTube, of course.

YouTube - Success SpaceX Falcon 1 - Flight 4 - September 28, 2008

How'sa bout them apples? lol </those posting a rebuttal better not be citing the "accomplishments" of those who robbed an entire populace to accomplish their goal>
 
Pretty impressive!

At such time as one can go up, hang out in orbit for a couple of weeks, dock with the space station and repair a satellite THEN it would be an appropriate time to discuss de-funding NASA. Until that day, I think we still need the space agency.

-t
 
Pretty impressive!

At such time as one can go up, hang out in orbit for a couple of weeks, dock with the space station and repair a satellite THEN it would be an appropriate time to discuss de-funding NASA. Until that day, I think we still need the space agency.

-t

So the issue of theft is irrelevant to you? :confused: I don't understand how everyone here seems to be pro-individual rights yet they seem to be willing to just brush this theft under the rug.
 
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