Nader: "Will Obama be Uncle Sam or Uncle Tom"?

Uncle Sam? Uncle Tom? Uncle... Joe?

  • Uncle Sam

    Votes: 13 9.7%
  • Uncle Tom

    Votes: 89 66.4%
  • Uncle Joe

    Votes: 32 23.9%

  • Total voters
    134
It's a pathetic thing for Nader to say. Here we are trying to put race behind us, but Nader is making an issue out of it by using the racism-charged "Uncle Tom" terminology.

Oh what bullshit.

Who is "we"?

And who is trying to "put race behind us"?

I have heard nothing, and I mean nothing, from the MSM, print, online, cable, radio, that does not mention race and does bring race into the equation in reporting election news.
 
i luv this... he KNEW what he done said...

Oh bull pucky - he picked the exact right words and stood
behind them. Watch the last 5 seconds of the clip again.

-t


100% on the money! nader is nader... we might hint at ego...yet
he is a lawyer's lawyer! he KNEW what he was saying! odds are he
also READ the book from cover to cover rather being tres cliff notes!
 
We are entering an age of totalitarian government in the USA. Now even thoughts and words will be considered crimes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uncle_Tom's_Cabin

Uncle Tom is a character in this book. But there was a real Uncle Tom in Louisiana.
Famous legend in the Chopin area.

I have experienced that burden on this forum ever since the progressives ( communists ) to the forum over. If you are 35 years or younger, you do not know what free speech is and why it is so important.
 
Me too. :D

FDR's favorite uncle. :p

The true term would be "Uncle Jom" for he will be both.

I really like "Uncle Blow" the best

Seriously though I believe they may have unwittingly put another Mugabe in the Whitehouse. Expect mass websites to go down and the jackbooted thugs will be in your neighborhood real soon.
 
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So Nader is a New World Order operative?

I hope Ron Paul isn't. Maybe RP is a Rockefeller plant meant to collect and identify anti-globalists. Maybe he turned over his donor list to Homeland Security.

Now that would be the shizzle, wouldn't it? I sure hope not, though I confess that the thought has crossed my mind, with one reason being RP's friendship with Nader. The way I look at it, if things get that bad I might as well enjoy the helicopter ride.

Re: Nader's connections with TPTB, they are disturbing if true:

http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=ralph+nader+ford+foundation
 
Bush is an 'uncle tom.' McCain is an 'uncle tom.' Congress had, I believe, has an 11% approval rating, so a good estimate is that 89% of our congress is comprised of 'uncle toms.'

I hate what people do to words. Clearly, Nader was using the terminology it in its historical sense. People have butchered it in much the same way they have butchered words like oreo—a delicious cookie snack which can alternatively be used to ridicule a black man who 'tries to 'act white.'' I mean, what the fuck?

Harriet Beecher Stowe's novel would never have been a hit best-seller had she been a flamboyant racist. In fact, 'uncle tom' was first used by other slaves as an expression of contempt for slaves who bowed to the will of their masters with little or no refutation.

It makes no logical sense for 'uncle tom' to be a racist term, in its original context. Obedient slaves were considered by white slave owners to be a valuable commodity. It makes no sense that whites in that day would use 'uncle tom' as a derogatory comment. That started within the black community for the black community.

Which brings me to my last point. This country was founded on the principles of self-determination. You are what you think you are, and declare yourself to be. Labels made of you by others lose their power under those circumstances. Contrarily, you are your own worst critic.

Nader posed a good question that Obama needs to ask of himself. Will I be a good leader of a free nation, or will I be an obedient slave to the powers that be? Obama's voting record leaves me unconvinced that he will take the route of the former, aligning himself with all those 'uncle tom' presidents before him.
 
nobody's_hero said:
Congress had, I believe, has an 11% approval rating, so a good estimate is that 89% of our congress is comprised of 'uncle toms.'

If Congress has an 11% approval rating, on average, how do more that 11% keep their seats? The math doesn't seem to add up. Something seems fishy.
 
Clay Trainor:

When you do not understand something it is often useful to google it for a little information: :D

Google "uncle tom" and here is just one reference. Uncle Tom's Cabin- the book is the "Uncle Tom" being referenced in the poll and Nader's interniew.

Uncle Tom's Cabin; or, Life Among the Lowly is an anti-slavery novel by American author Harriet Beecher Stowe. Published in 1852, the novel had a profound effect on attitudes toward African Americans and slavery in the United States, so much so in the latter case that the novel intensified the sectional conflict leading to the American Civil War.[1]

Stowe, a Connecticut-born teacher at the Hartford Female Academy and an active abolitionist, focused the novel on the character of Uncle Tom, a long-suffering Black slave around whom the stories of other characters—both fellow slaves and slave owners—revolve. The sentimental novel depicts the cruel reality of slavery while also asserting that Christian love can overcome something as destructive as enslavement of fellow human beings.[2][3][4]
Uncle Tom's Cabin was the best-selling novel of the 19th century,[5] and the second best-selling book of that century, following the Bible.[6] It is credited with helping fuel the abolitionist cause in the 1850s.[7] In the first year after it was published, 300,000 copies of the book were sold in the United States alone. The book's impact was so great that when Abraham Lincoln met Stowe at the start of the American Civil War, Lincoln is often quoted as having declared, "So this is the little lady who made this big war."[8]

The book, and even more the plays it inspired, also helped create a number of stereotypes about Blacks,[9] many of which endure to this day. These include the affectionate, dark-skinned mammy; the Pickaninny stereotype of black children; and the Uncle Tom, or dutiful, long-suffering servant faithful to his white master or mistress. In recent years, the negative associations with Uncle Tom's Cabin have, to an extent, overshadowed the historical impact of the book as a "vital antislavery tool."[10]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simon_Legree#Simon_Legree
 
If Congress has an 11% approval rating, on average, how do more that 11% keep their seats? The math doesn't seem to add up. Something seems fishy.

The American people are still sleeping. We have to wake them up. Congress won't slap its own wrists.
 
http://digg.com/politics/Ralph_Nader_Asks_Obama_Uncle_Sam_Or_Uncle_Tom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkoB4r9FSzY

Apparently, FOX News got very upset about what Nader said.

I'm sure it'll get more coverage tomorrow.

Did Nader phrase it like that just to get attention?

And what kind of "uncle" will Obama be as president? Please watch the video before voting in the poll.

Here's the quote:
"To put it very simply, he is our first African-American president - or he will be. And we wish him well. But his choice, basically, is whether he's going to be Uncle Sam for the people of this country, or Uncle Tom for the giant corporations."
His first appointment is NOT a good sign I must say. And the pictures of five guys, including Volcker (terrible) being looked at, or suggested perhaps by MSM as abeing possibles for Treasury is another bad sign.
 
nobody's_hero said:
The American people are still sleeping. We have to wake them up. Congress won't slap its own wrists.

But if 89% do not approve of their Congress then why do they vote for the incumbents? If they are cognizant of their own unhappiness then are they "still sleeping?"
 
But if 89% do not approve of their Congress then why do they vote for the incumbents? If they are cognizant of their own unhappiness then are they "still sleeping?"

Fear of losing to the other guy/gal. Lesser of two evils, maybe.

But, I'm wondering where those potential voters are who don't play politics because they don't know that there's something out there worth voting for. Those, like myself before this election year and the Ron Paul r3volution, who think that government's actions don't directly affect them. Where's that silent majority who will stand up and declare to our despots: "You do not represent me!"?
 
But if 89% do not approve of their Congress then why do they vote for the incumbents? If they are cognizant of their own unhappiness then are they "still sleeping?"
The "Better the DEVIL you know" thinking rather than to take a risky chance on someone new, often over rules in the decision making process.<IMHO> ;)
 
does alan keyes now run again for the open senate seat?
can alan keyes now win this exalted position? possibly?
 
does alan keyes now run again for the open senate seat?
can alan keyes now win this exalted position? possibly?

I hope so. The guy is a solid conservative except for his warmongering side on the behalf of Israel. If you haven't noticed, no person has much of a chance at public office if they don't kiss Israeli ass.
 
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