My troll thought for the day.

[filmmaker58]

I'm going to get bashed for this, but here goes, devils advocate.

100,000 people go to the march from all over the country. It costs them an average of $500 each. That's 50 million dollars. That would fund one hell of a third party run, with prime time TV spots, and a built in national organization. There is talk of several third party groups (Libertarian, Constitution) drafting Ron Paul anyway. Maybe the thought of several independent parties combining to support one candidate has even more potential for news coverage than a march?.

Second point. There have been anti-war rallys in Washington with close to that many people, and you never saw them on the news. Why would they treat a Ron Paul march any different. We will shoot our wad on this march, and still get no coverage.

After what happened in LA today, and what looks like is going to happen all over the country, (dealing with the GOP here in Nevada is horrible) the Republican party continues to break their own rules to sabatage Ron Paul at every turn, which is akin to a sinking ship lobbing torpedoes at the rescue boat. What the hell are we still doing trying to save the Republican party? I'd just as soon go third party and let this rotting cadaver die the painful death that it deserves.

I think that Ron Pauls plans are no to remain in congress and mentor the few Ron Paul candidates that might make it in the upcoming election. I'm not convinced we have that kind of time. We need to convince him to ditch these dickwad republicans and go third party. I think that as the economy continues to plunge, and more info comes out about the other candidates, that a third party run would have a real chance with that kind of funding.

Let the flaming commence.

 

[Eponym_mi]

No flaming here. After what I saw last night, the Republican party is toast. I think RP should continue in the Republican primaries until mid May and attend the LP convention.

 

[Jamsie 567]

100,000 would not get much publicity, if we want to get noticed we need at least 1 million.

 

[filmmaker58]

1 million times $500 each is enough to send a tutor to every houshold in America and teach them the constitution, the CFR, etc, etc.

After taking a few days to digest this march thing, all I have to say is.....

Third party run.

 

[fedup100]

No flaming here, I know this is a great idea. The common problem we all will have though is a rigged election. I would like to dream a bit and see what could be in the future:

So 30 days from now we have 50 million and we have brought every party we can think of or dig up under the rocks under one roof. We have drafted Ron Paul and the nationwide over the top advertising coupled with the 24/7 1 hour professional infomercials have brought the country around and people are dancing in the streets to vote for This new parties candidate.

I mean folks, we have done it. 40% of the whole Country has awakened, don't like what they smell in the two party system and they have gone all balls out for something new that promises to give them not just peace, but true prosperity.

The exit polling is so brutal in OUR favor even the MSM has to admit it. As the numbers start to trickle in, it looks like voter fraud has reared its ugly head and despite the entrance and exit polls showing 75% for Ron Paul and the new save our ass party, McCain is declared the winner by a landslide???

Folks, if this scenario was true and played out this way, you wouldn't need to organise a march on Washington. The good people of this country would show up on their own and tear that pig of a government to the ground.

This is the way to go!!

 

[The Good Doctor]

What happened last night?

No flaming here. After what I saw last night, the Republican party is toast. I think RP should continue in the Republican primaries until mid May and attend the LP convention.

 

[Eponym_mi]

What happened last night?

State GOP Convention in Michigan. The GOP is extremely fractured and doesn't stand a chance in the general no matter who they nominate. RP would be better off ditching the Republican label...it does more harm than good in this election.

 

[spudea]

try harder. It would prove that Ron Paul is good for the economy!

 

[aksmith]

I'm going to get bashed for this, but here goes, devils advocate.

100,000 people go to the march from all over the country. It costs them an average of $500 each. That's 50 million dollars. That would fund one hell of a third party run, with prime time TV spots, and a built in national organization. There is talk of several third party groups (Libertarian, Constitution) drafting Ron Paul anyway. Maybe the thought of several independent parties combining to support one candidate has even more potential for news coverage than a march?.

Second point. There have been anti-war rallys in Washington with close to that many people, and you never saw them on the news. Why would they treat a Ron Paul march any different. We will shoot our wad on this march, and still get no coverage.

After what happened in LA today, and what looks like is going to happen all over the country, (dealing with the GOP here in Nevada is horrible) the Republican party continues to break their own rules to sabatage Ron Paul at every turn, which is akin to a sinking ship lobbing torpedoes at the rescue boat. What the hell are we still doing trying to save the Republican party? I'd just as soon go third party and let this rotting cadaver die the painful death that it deserves.

I think that Ron Pauls plans are no to remain in congress and mentor the few Ron Paul candidates that might make it in the upcoming election. I'm not convinced we have that kind of time. We need to convince him to ditch these dickwad republicans and go third party. I think that as the economy continues to plunge, and more info comes out about the other candidates, that a third party run would have a real chance with that kind of funding.

Let the flaming commence.

No flame from me. In fact, the candidate doesn't have to even be Ron. If he wants to stay in the R party, fine. He's the best congressman they've ever had. Let's use all that money, 50 million, to draft a Ron Paul Republican who has been a governor, like Gary Johnson of New Mexico or Mark Sanford. That way we would have none of the baggage from the primaries. Ron gets to go back to congress and we get the freedom loving constitutionalist we want and one that's possibly more electable. Win Win Win.

Believe me, people are looking for a way out of the McCain Obama vortex of doom. One stinks and the other one stinks more. I just can't tell which is which. People are starved for something more than crapola like Bomb Bomb Iran and The Audacity of Hope. What the H does that even mean?

So, to get around the sore loser laws, Ron can either join the ticket as VP or he can stay in congress. And freedom inches closer to happening. Gary Johnson and Mark Sanford have credibility that others do not. We have organization and fundraising. Let's draft one of them, or both of them and instead of a media non-event have a second phase of our whithering revolution.

 

[nick4rp]

This is quite depressing news that we essentially have 3 options of Hell.

Now don't flame me, but if Ron Paul were not on the ballot and these were the same 3 we had to pick from:

1. Do you stay home?
2. Do you vote for Hillary, who seems the most "moderate" of the three?

I don't understand the whole process maybe, but it seems like the "system" is so jacked-set-up to be biased towards two people that no matter if you have a majority of voters writing in, electoral votes are all that matters and these delegates that seem to be "bought off".

I mean, what the crap, why does Romney who a few weeks ago was calling McCain a liberal, now endorsing the guy and then "encouraging" his delegates to vote for McCain?

I know the answer to that, (or I have several theories in my mind), but it sure is crap. Its almost "calculated" to "discourage" voters of other people that aren't "frontrunners". Just look at the general mood of everyone.

I'm just being realistic. We can hope for the best and I'm still "writing in" Ron Paul, but in a system where it seems they will just chuck the votes in the trash unless it has McCain or whoever the Dems decide, you're basically SOL.

Like what someone said, you need a million people to march and even then, the press still control coverage. I distinctly remember a "million man march" by Louis Fahrakhan and I didn't see much coming out of that march.

Until we start voting out the crooks, nothing will change. We are even fortunate to have at least one Ron Paul in Congress. We need to "bust some balls" like an Eliot Ness to get anything done and even then, the end result is like JFK. They'll knock you off before your time.

Am I wrong in this? It just seems like an uphill battle and you can't even get started to climb... just d*mn depressing. Even worse is that every Repub. I've talked to wants McCain because of the "fear of Hillary", and if "not McCain" then "Obama" because of the "Change" BS. So sad the sheeple....

 

[Larry Lee]

Not to jump on any bandwagon against the March, but I'm afraid so much effort will go into this event that we'll all be out of steam afterwards not to mention out of money. My wife and I built a house and learned a lesson -- Once you find out how much money something is going to cost, then stop and think what you could do with that money instead of just running head long and spending it on the item you thought of in the first place. Soooooo, if we're collectively going to spend $50,000,000 on a march on DC, what else can we have for that same $50,000,000? I mean this in a positive way because I'm way far from being discouraged. I'm in this for the long, long, long haul.
Larry
Freedom is to be shared with everyone and not forced on anyone.
Freedom may have to be maintained with the end of a barrel, but
it can not be created with the end of a barrel.

 

[revolutionary8]

Not to jump on any bandwagon against the March, but I'm afraid so much effort will go into this event that we'll all be out of steam afterwards not to mention out of money. My wife and I built a house and learned a lesson -- Once you find out how much money something is going to cost, then stop and think what you could do with that money instead of just running head long and spending it on the item you thought of in the first place. Soooooo, if we're collectively going to spend $50,000,000 on a march on DC, what else can we have for that same $50,000,000? I mean this in a positive way because I'm way far from being discouraged. I'm in this for the long, long, long haul.
Larry
Freedom is to be shared with everyone and not forced on anyone.
Freedom may have to be maintained with the end of a barrel, but
it can not be created with the end of a barrel.

What "bandwagon" against the march?
Has a date even been set?
How much do you think it will cost?
In case you haven't noticed, Us conservatives are quite good at saving and spending our money in a conservative fashion. I think if people want to treat this as an opportunity of a life time to March on Washington, and want to spend their money on doing so, they should. No one should dictate how they spend their money, they earned it!

 

[aksmith]

What "bandwagon" against the march?
Has a date even been set?
How much do you think it will cost?
In case you haven't noticed, Us conservatives are quite good at saving and spending our money in a conservative fashion. I think if people want to treat this as an opportunity of a life time to March on Washington, and want to spend their money on doing so, they should. No one should dictate how they spend their money, they earned it!

Nobody is telling anyone anything. Great God Almigty, don't dare try to suggest something to Ron Paul supporters, much less tell them what to do.

I suggest not to march and instead spend all that energy and effort and money on a real third party run with a constitutionalist as the candidate, Ron or someone else.

But I'm fully aware that Ron Paul supporters mostly would rather march than really make something useful happen. I expect a march and I expect it to be a complete failure that will be spun as a famous victory. And when the media predictably doesn't cover one second of it, I expect to hear a lot of complaining about how the msm doesn't do its job.

Do something useful and productive? Nah, we'd rather march.

 

[revolutionary8]

Nobody is telling anyone anything. Great God Almigty, don't dare try to suggest something to Ron Paul supporters, much less tell them what to do.

I suggest not to march and instead spend all that energy and effort and money on a real third party run with a constitutionalist as the candidate, Ron or someone else.

But I'm fully aware that Ron Paul supporters mostly would rather march than really make something useful happen. I expect a march and I expect it to be a complete failure that will be spun as a famous victory. And when the media predictably doesn't cover one second of it, I expect to hear a lot of complaining about how the msm doesn't do its job.

Do something useful and productive? Nah, we'd rather march.

Yeah, those RPers would rather completely ignore what RP, a genius of the Constitution says should be done in order to try and save ourselves from this "Democracy" that is really FASCISM.
yeah, RPers would never listen to a word RP says, why should we?

Eta,
"someone else" HUH?
now I get it.
TROLL
Lemme guess---> NADER/BLOOMBERG TROLL.

 

[aksmith]

Yeah, those RPers would rather completely ignore what RP, a genius of the Constitution says should be done in order to try and save ourselves from this "Democracy" that is really FASCISM.
yeah, RPers would never listen to a word RP says, why should we?

Eta,
"someone else" HUH?
now I get it.
TROLL
Lemme guess---> NADER/BLOOMBERG TROLL.

Yeah, Ron is a genius. That's why everyone listens to the campaign people he hired.

Nobody has listened to Ron all through the campaign. He asked people to canvass and make calls here. I stood right next to him when he said it into a mic with over a thousand people listening. Didn't make an impression. He finally gave up and told you what you wanted to hear and now he's a genius who must be obeyed.

Can't win for losing around here.

 

[revolutionary8]

Yeah, Ron is a genius. That's why everyone listens to the campaign people he hired.

Nobody has listened to Ron all through the campaign. He asked people to canvass and make calls here. I stood right next to him when he said it into a mic with over a thousand people listening. Didn't make an impression. He finally gave up and told you what you wanted to hear and now he's a genius who must be obeyed.

Can't win for losing around here.

Your teeth are showing.
Again, It is MY CHOICE to attend the March. HE IS NOT FORCING ME, IT IS MY CHOICE. GOT IT?
Get lost and go try being a PRO rather and ANTI- it works every dang time.
I love this exposing the troll stuff, it's fun.

 

[aksmith]

Yeah, those RPers would rather completely ignore what RP, a genius of the Constitution says should be done in order to try and save ourselves from this "Democracy" that is really FASCISM.
yeah, RPers would never listen to a word RP says, why should we?

Eta,
"someone else" HUH?
now I get it.
TROLL
Lemme guess---> NADER/BLOOMBERG TROLL.

Nader Bloomberg?

I worked for Ron in '88 and I worked for him for the last eight months. And I think the majority of people in this movement are great, but the vocal minority want to wave signs and march. And that means we keep losing. I'm much too old to watch people do what didn't work 20 years ago.

And Nader and Bloomberg can suck my hairy . . . .

 

[aksmith]

Your teeth are showing.
Again, It is MY CHOICE to attend the March. HE IS NOT FORCING ME, IT IS MY CHOICE. GOT IT?
Get lost and go try being a PRO rather and ANTI- it works every dang time.
I love this exposing the troll stuff, it's fun.

Have fun. That's what marches are for.

Oh, you didn't read my post. YOu're one of the smart marchers.

I said "someone else" meaning Mark Sanford or Gary Johnson, two of Ron's favorites.

 

[revolutionary8]

Nader Bloomberg?

I worked for Ron in '88 and I worked for him for the last eight months. And I think the majority of people in this movement are great, but the vocal minority want to wave signs and march. And that means we keep losing. I'm much too old to watch people do what didn't work 20 years ago.

And Nader and Bloomberg can suck my hairy . . . .

Waving signs is one of the most effective ways of proving to people that "we are not the internets" and combating the Blackout by MSM.
But you go right ahead tell people like myself who wave RP signs (WITHOUT MY TRUTHER SHIRT ON) That it is useless.
In fact, try to tell me that people in my group, who are now some of the most active in the group, didn't first google RP when they saw impassioned people on the highways and streets holding signs.
I won't believe you, and others shouldn't either, because it is FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM THE TRUTH.

 

[aksmith]

Waving signs is one of the most effective ways of proving to people that "we are not the internets" and combating the Blackout by MSM.
But you go right ahead tell people like myself who wave RP signs (WITHOUT MY TRUTHER SHIRT ON) That it is useless.
In fact, try to tell me that people in my group, who are now some of the most active in the group, didn't first google RP when they saw impassioned people on the highways and streets holding signs.
I won't believe you, and others shouldn't either, because it is FAR FAR FAR AWAY FROM THE TRUTH.

I will say that in a primary state, there is some utility in waving signs. And early on in caucus states, there was some utility. But no, there is very little utility now. Knocking on doors and making phone calls make all the difference.

Of course, knocking on doors and phoning work best when the campaign is doing radio and tv and direct mail that doesn't look like a three year old designed it.