My THREE QUESTION test for Chuck Baldwin.

I am for the right for a woman to have a abortion, while Chuck personally is not, he thinks the states should decide (same as RP).

Chuck is near perfect on the economy even if the protectionism belief is true (which it might not). Can't have a perfect candidate, but I can have a near perfect candidate.

Well, he's not near perfect to me, neither is his party. States don't have rights, people have rights.

Protectionism IS evil and he and his party both support it. Jerome Corsi, a Baldwin supporter and CP member, is a HUGE protectionist. They are an enemy to free traders
 
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Menthol, I will be asking him these questions this friday when I see him at a conference, just for you.
 
Government has no right to exist.

Hmmm...

I will say that government in and of itself has no rights.

However, people have a right to organize together to prevent the violation of their rights.

What they don't have a right to do is use that organization to violate people's rights.
 
Hmmm...

I will say that government in and of itself has no rights.

However, people have a right to organize together to prevent the violation of their rights.

What they don't have a right to do is use that organization to violate people's rights.

People also have the right to "opt out"
 
If you want the Federal gov't to get involved in state issues, then work to amend the constitution to include that 'whatever' as a basic right specifically guaranteed by the constitution. Such constitutional amendment questions are exactly the one thing the executive has absolutely no direct say in whatsoever. No voting power, no veto power. That power lies entirely in the hands of the legislatures on the Federal and State levels.

The one thing you absolutely do not want to do if you're about a meaningful constitutional system that protects rights and supports liberty is try to influence the courts to disregard the constitution as written and either twist it to include your desired issue without basis (example- 5 justices inventing a constitutional protection out of thin air in Roe v Wade) or for that matter voting in direct opposition to constitutional directive (example- 4 justices voting to ignore the 2nd amendment in DC v Heller). In both cases if the constitution was truly valued here anymore, an enraged citizenry and their congressional reps would have risen up together, whether the outcome was one any particular individual would have supported as an amendment or not, in order to immediately impeach the offending justices.

Essentially such justices are testing the waters to see whether they can get away with editing/writing a new constitution themselves, and skirting the constitutionally stated process for such editing. If that is never allowed without immediate impeachment, then we have an enforced constitution and change occurs by the book. Since we've failed to do that, nobody bothers to work through the cumbersome amendment process anymore, they simply vote in a manner attempting to stack the court regardless of whether the candidate is actually worth a shit or not. Furthermore, the parties have gotten very good at maximizing this effect to their advantage by providing bucketloads of rhetoric on polarizing issues at the proper intervals surrounding the election cycle- despite no real interest whatsoever in changing the status quo. If that keeps working for them well, they have no motivation whatsoever to make any such changes and kill the goose laying those golden electoral eggs.

Also, since we've failed to stand together to defend the constitution, we now actually have presidents who can say things like "its just a piece of paper" when taken to task on unconstitutionality of policy and law. And get away with it. Every American who has supported questionable rulings and minority opinions out of the SC because it came down on the side of the issue they favored, because it was easier than actually working to amend the thing as they would prefer, can only slap their forehead when it goes the other way and they catch themselves whining about constitutionality. "That's right, what was I thinking, of course its just a piece of paper, I've supported the mangling/ignoring of the thing myself when the ruling went my way."

If we want any right and expectation of Constitutional integrity out of our elected officials, our courts, our neighbors- then each and every one of us must stand together invariably each and every time it gets subjected to such abuse, and offer no escape from sanction to the abusers.

So for the CFL, state rights are state rights unless and until we amend the document to say specifically otherwise. Should we get a candidate seeking our support that isn't on board with that, and prefers a much more cavalier attitude towards constitutional matters, then that candidate is dangerous to Liberty and simply isn't our boy (or girl) regardless of whether we see eye to eye on any particular issue. That candidate wants to amass previously nonexistent Federal powers and wield them, rather than dissolve and diffuse such dangerous things.
 
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**sigh** ice cream and heroin are not comparable. Look, I'm coming from a different perspective. My education is in behavioral science with an emphasis on addictive disorders. We are an addicted nation. Granted the war on drugs has been useless, but legalizing addiction (dope) isn't going to make things any better. If you think so, then go have a talk with the many mothers whose husbands are shooting up and smoking weed in front of the kids instead of working to pay the bills. Go to hospitals on the poor side of town and ask about the crack addicted babies. Ask anyone who's addicted if they wish they had never started.

Addiction is hurting this country in more ways than you may know.

You think legalizing dope is going to change all this? I don't want it legalized, but I don't want addicts thrown in prison, only dealers. I think addicts belong in rehab for lengthy periods of time.

As to the casual user, I believe in simply de-criminalizing dope.

Making drugs legal is the only way to get rid of the drug dealers you despise. I know it's counter intuitive but ponder on it.

Illegal drugs creates more problems than it solves. Legal drugs offers some solutions.

Bless you heart for the drugs addictions, but you're never going to get rid of drug usage, we can't even keep it out of the prisons. Marijuana grows anywhere on 6 continents. Anybody can grow it, anywhere, anytime, inside, outside. Some things to think on, I respect your and everyone's opinion on these boards. All ron paul people are great - some in their own ways. ahem Joseph the dipsh*t. :D
 
I don't care if he's a theocrat, Fascist, murderer, child molester, rapist.

I'm voting 3rd party just to stick the finger to the other two.

Baldwin or Barr, Nader or McKinney, doesn't matter.
 
If you want the Federal gov't to get involved in state issues, then work to amend the constitution to include that 'whatever' as a basic right specifically guaranteed by the constitution. Such constitutional amendment questions are exactly the one thing the executive has absolutely no direct say in whatsoever. No voting power, no veto power. That power lies entirely in the hands of the legislatures on the Federal and State levels.

The one thing you absolutely do not want to do if you're about a meaningful constitutional system that protects rights and supports liberty is try to influence the courts to disregard the constitution as written and either twist it to include your desired issue without basis (example- 5 justices inventing a constitutional protection out of thin air in Roe v Wade) or for that matter voting in direct opposition to constitutional directive (example- 4 justices voting to ignore the 2nd amendment in DC v Heller). In both cases if the constitution was truly valued here anymore, an enraged citizenry and their congressional reps would have risen up together, whether the outcome was one any particular individual would have supported as an amendment or not, in order to immediately impeach the offending justices.

Essentially such justices are testing the waters to see whether they can get away with editing/writing a new constitution themselves, and skirting the constitutionally stated process for such editing. If that is never allowed without immediate impeachment, then we have an enforced constitution and change occurs by the book. Since we've failed to do that, nobody bothers to work through the cumbersome amendment process anymore, they simply vote in a manner attempting to stack the court regardless of whether the candidate is actually worth a shit or not. Furthermore, the parties have gotten very good at maximizing this effect to their advantage by providing bucketloads of rhetoric on polarizing issues at the proper intervals surrounding the election cycle- despite no real interest whatsoever in changing the status quo. If that keeps working for them well, they have no motivation whatsoever to make any such changes and kill the goose laying those golden electoral eggs.

Also, since we've failed to stand together to defend the constitution, we now actually have presidents who can say things like "its just a piece of paper" when taken to task on unconstitutionality of policy and law. And get away with it. Every American who has supported questionable rulings and minority opinions out of the SC because it came down on the side of the issue they favored, because it was easier than actually working to amend the thing as they would prefer, can only slap their forehead when it goes the other way and they catch themselves whining about constitutionality. "That's right, what was I thinking, of course its just a piece of paper, I've supported the mangling/ignoring of the thing myself when the ruling went my way."

If we want any right and expectation of Constitutional integrity out of our elected officials, our courts, our neighbors- then each and every one of us must stand together invariably each and every time it gets subjected to such abuse, and offer no escape from sanction to the abusers.

So for the CFL, state rights are state rights unless and until we amend the document to say specifically otherwise. Should we get a candidate seeking our support that isn't on board with that, and prefers a much more cavalier attitude towards constitutional matters, then that candidate is dangerous to Liberty and simply isn't our boy (or girl) regardless of whether we see eye to eye on any particular issue. That candidate wants to amass previously nonexistent Federal powers and wield them, rather than dissolve and diffuse such dangerous things.

Nice post. Refreshing.
 
Let's see, drugs, prostitutes and burning Bibles are high priorities for you? WTH?

Do you not know the USA is on the verge of collapse? All you can do is worry about drug orgies with prostitutes while burning Bibles as America goes down the toilet?
 
Menthol is asking perfectly legit questions, BTW. I just wanted to defend him. I wish Baldwin had made the answers to these questions more clear. However, I will still be voting for him because unlike Barr who is an ass hat, Baldwin is consistent and genuine. And he's not going to win anyway, so all it will be is a "third party vote."

I'd rather vote for an asshat than a theocrat that's part of a party that has a history of racism.
 
I'd rather vote for an asshat than a theocrat that's part of a party that has a history of racism.

The Constitution Party does not have a history of racism. Baldwin does seem to like the confederate battle flag, and I don't like that about him, but it is not enough for me to not vote for him and it certainly does not mean he is a racist. Also Baldwin is not a theocrat. He is not going to make everyone become a Christian if he wins.
 
No, one step at a time is not enough when it comes to freedom.

If he does not support the legalization of all drugs he does not support our vote.

Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I think that's where you're getting the most resistance here.

And if marijuana is legalized and everyone doesn't go crazy killing people, then it will also make a stronger case for freedom in general.
 
Let's see, drugs, prostitutes and burning Bibles are high priorities for you? WTH?

Do you not know the USA is on the verge of collapse? All you can do is worry about drug orgies with prostitutes while burning Bibles as America goes down the toilet?

Let me explain this again.

I will not support any candidate unless he believes in both fiscal conservatism and personal freedom.

It's obvious that Chuck Baldwin is a fiscal conservatism. But I need to know if he supports personal freedom.
 
Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. I think that's where you're getting the most resistance here.

And if marijuana is legalized and everyone doesn't go crazy killing people, then it will also make a stronger case for freedom in general.

If a candidate does not support the legalization of drugs he does not believe in personal freedom.
 
I find myself in agreement with menthol patch.
Drug laws, and victimless crimes are agasint evething that liberty stands for.

I would vote for chuck only if:
He came out and said that he will end the war on drugs and pardon all non violent drug offenders.

He would work to repeal all victimless crimes and pre-emptive laws, including prostitution.

And he must take an oath to not let his religion influence his policy making, leave womans right to choose alone.

If this does not happen then I will vote for obama, quit my job, and do my part to milk the socalist system until it colapses.

Personally I think that its the only way we are going to force the people to wake up. To show them that neo-con empire building failed, and that socialism also will fail. Then maybe they will understand that the key to prosperity is liberty, freedom, and servival of the fittest. Stop bailing people out. Stop helping the poor and sick all over the world, just let the weak die for christ sake! It is not our responsiblity to take care of everyone, it is our responsiblity to take care of ourselves.
 
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