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The Podemos ‘earthquake’ could spell real reform in Spain
David Gardner | May 27 15:07

The focus in last week’s European elections was on the seismic waves of the distinct currents of Euro-populism and reaction that “earthquaked” to the top of the polls in France, Britain (or at least England), Denmark and Greece. But arguably the most intriguing insurgency was Podemos (We Can) in Spain, a phenomenon worth examining outside the swish and swirl of populism.

Much of what I have seen written about Podemos has them “coming out of nowhere” – a cliché employed by politicians and analysts that means “we didn’t see them coming”. Yet a three-month-old party with a budget of barely €100,000 shot into fourth place with one and a quarter million votes and five seats in the European Parliament – similar to Syriza, the Greek left-wing party they plan to hitch up with.

The eruption of Podemos and its compellingly outspoken leader, Pablo Iglesias, has already triggered the fall of Alfredo Perez Rubalcalba, the Socialist secretary general who has presided over the party’s worst electoral performance since democracy was restored in 1977-78. But while obviously a rising current of a new left, Podemos could be a broader catalyst for political change in Spain and beyond.

The most obvious origins of this cleverly improvised party are in the mass movement of indignados that took over some 50 public squares across Spain three years ago, proclaiming that the EU-wide crisis was not so much a crisis as a scam by bankers and politicians that denies employment to more than half of Spain’s youth.

“If people don’t do politics themselves, they get it done to them, and that’s when they [the politicians] steal your democratic rights as well as your wallet,” Iglesias, a 35-year-old political science professor, said in an interview on Tuesday.

The embryonic party’s emphasis on grassroots participation – through some 300 “circles” across the country – and voting for candidates through a system of primaries, also has obvious inspiration in the indignados assemblies. But Podemos also links back nearly five decades to the soixante-huitard tradition, through figures such as the former Trotskyist leader Jaime Pastor, or Publico, an online newspaper owned by Jaume Roures, Trotskyite-turned-media-tycoon owner of the Mediapro group. Publico’s TV programmes turned Iglesias into a sought-after guest on a range of mainstream current affairs programmes, and this made him a national figure.

The tendency of some media and political analysts to fixate on the internet and social media as the all-powerful enabler in modern politics and, especially, of political insurgencies misses the fact that it was TV that was key to the Podemos breakthrough. It used the web for crowd-funding, for the primaries and to convene meetings. But with almost no money, it pragmatically personalised the campaign in the TV personality of Iglesias, a media scholar who says “the main space or political socialisation in this country is television”.

Podemos policies are vague, populist, anti-capitalist and anti-globalisation. It rages externally against Germany and the troika (the European Commission, European Central Banks and International Monetary Fund) for imposing untenable levels of debt and joblessness on the EU periphery – as they see it – to save German banks. Internally, Iglesias never speaks without lambasting what he calls la casta (the caste) – the ossified hierarchs of the governing Partido Popular and the Socialists, most of whom have never done anything in life except rise inexorably up their parties, all the while (Podemos says) failing or betraying the country.

But this has struck a note amid Spain’s crisis, which is institutional as well as economic – a message that extends beyond the usual leftie suspects to the thinking and sinking middle classes.

Practices emphasised by Podemos such as selection primaries did not come out of nowhere. One of the root causes of institutional decay in Spain is its political parties, in which the list system vests all power in the party leadership. In the course of last year, for example, a group impelled by diverse independent figures such as Carles Casajuana, former Spanish ambassador to the UK, called for wholesale democratic reform of Spain’s parties, which habitually politicise other institutions such as the judiciary. Another of the 100 initial signatories of that manifesto, the economist Cesar Molinas, said this was essential to overcome the “extractive elites” plaguing the country. A smaller group of left-wing independents around the controversial crusading magistrate Baltasar Garzon called somewhat optimistically for a new and unified politics of the left to overcome the crisis.

So no, Podemos did not emerge from nowhere. However well it goes on to perform, the momentum it has already generated could be a catalyst for reform.

http://blogs.ft.com/the-world/2014/05/the-podemos-earthquake-could-spell-real-reform-in-spain/
 
Secession does not mean automatic increase in freedom, most of the times it is the opposite.
I disagree, looking at the big picture. I'd far rather have a world with 3,000 independent nations than 300. 30,000 would be even better.

Yugoslavia had war for secession. War, indeed, seldom produces altogether good and intended results. Peaceful dissolution is another matter.

Independentisme Català!

Even more enthusiastically: Indipendenza Veneta!
 
Finally, I don't think secessionism is supported by most of the Catalans, one thing is being popular in rural areas and another thing is being a major force in Barcelona and his metro area.
Actually, it looks like independence is in a dramatic upswing in popularity. Very dramatic. Look at the green line:

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The Center for Opinion Studies has been doing scientific polling on the topic since 2005. The green line is total, 100% independence. The blue line is Federal State (also awfully independent). The yellow is Autonomous Community. All other choices have tapered off into nothing. This data clearly shows: The Overwhelming Majority in Catalonia support either becoming a free and Independent state, or becoming a federal state, or at least being autonomous (a word synonymous with independent)!

Here's the 2010 demonstration in Barcelona for Catalan autonomy:

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So, there's a few urban Barcelonians in favor of independence, too. ;)
 
@helmuth: The CEO is controlled by the Catalan government. His neutrality is, IMHO, as dubious as the one of the CIS, the demoscopic agency of the Spanish Gvt. However current status in Spain is very unstable and nobody can know what will happen, although it seems this summer we will have a constitutional reform in order to "fit" Catalonia in Spain.


Podemos is a party founded by Pablo Iglesias. He's a professor in the Universidad Complutense, the most important in Spain, who is a political comentator. Initially he was a political commentator in a TV program in a TV station from Vallecas, a working-class district of Madrid, but two years ago he began to act as a political commentator in Intereconomia, a right-winged TV station, and from there to any TV station in Spain. He always have been linked with the Communist Party, in fact he was a militant of the UJCE, the Communist Youth League of Spain, and a declared supporter of Castro, Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution in South America.

In the past he was said he would be the United Left (a coalition led by the Communist Party) candidate for being the major of Madrid in the next year municipal election, city where his girlfriend was a councilor for the United Left. However this year he split from the IU, as he asked for primaries for choosing the candidates in the United Left. That's difficult in the United Left, as it is a coalition of docens of small leftist parties who will always want candidates placed in good position to become deputee. So he created his new assambleary movement, allegedly far from the bureaucratic United Left, with lot of people from the Anticapitalist Left (the troskists) and young people, and obviously very left-winged.

He's a very intelligent and skilled speaker, has been able to convince a lot of people, aided by the fact that most of the right-winged political comentators are dumbass with any conection with the social reality of Spain, and a skillful use of the demagogy and a extremely populist and leftist agenda, `rpomising to reduce retirement age from 67 to 60, a broader welfare-state, etc. . Also Podemos has been able to exploit the anger of Spanish people with politicians because of unemployment and corruption, and also has used the social networks as Twitter or Facebook very effectively.

And what do you think have been the answer given by the Government? Promising more integrity and attention to people's claims? A change of policy and a regeneration of the public policy? No, the only thing they've made is to send Arriola, a guy who have worked for the party since the 80s, insulting Podemos voters.

In conclusion, a far-left party who have got a lot of voters of angered people, with a leftist agenda, claiming for the "regeneration" (what a wonderful word, used by almost every Spanish politician since you won us the Cuba War) and getting profit of the huge popularity of their leader.

Will they have future? I don't know, their popularity will fall if economic situtation improves, but I doubt the weak economic recuperation Spain is having now will be enough solid for avoiding it. Moreover, next elections in Spain are the local ones of 2015 and given the characteristics of the movement, they can got great results in local elections.
 
Huge Monarchy News!

I have kept meaning to find this thread and post to it for about a week now, but I keep forgetting. HUGE news from Spain:

JUAN CARLOS HAS ABDICATED!

FELIPE TO BE KING!

Can you guys believe it?

The take-away: Juan Carlos was pretty good from a liberty perspective, in my opinion, as far as monarchs go. And it looks like Felipe will be not half bad. He's been making nice with Catalonian separatist leaders (many trips there the past few months, subtle (everything Felipe does is subtle) gestures of good will and supportiveness), which infuriates the anti-secession right-wing, of course. Felipe seems to have made a habit of infuriating the right wingers, in fact (e.g., by who he married, also). He seems like he might be an OK guy. Certainly his dad, Juan Carlos, had some big surprises up his sleeve when he came to power. Perhaps Felipe will lead Spain into a new libertarian era.

Hey, I can dream, can't I?
 
Come on, guys!

Spain!

The monarchy!

Felipe!

This is exciting stuff; big news.

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Juan Carlos, his wife Sophia, and little Felipe

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Felipe and family


Here's some thoughts on why it's important from a libertarian perspective:

Juan Carlos

June 8, 2014 by thelibertarianpress

When a dictator dies or retires there is fear of chaos or civil war, combined with hope of a new beginning. When an American president hands over to his successor there is a long transition as policies and personnel are changed and the ocean liner of the federal government gradually shifts direction. But when one of Europe’s constitutional monarchies hands over to another generation, nothing really changes. There is an enormous parade, but government continues as before. Real changes are quite separate and occur when there is a new prime minister.

Last time Spain changed its head of state it was, constitutionally, at the North Korean end of the spectrum. Today it is Britain or Sweden. One man is responsible for this, and he is the one who is handing over to his son. Spain is saying farewell to one of the greatest heroes of its history and it does not matter in the slightest. It is the remarkable and lasting achievement of King Juan Carlos that his decision to abdicate is of no significance at all.

Juan Carlos was granted dictatorial powers by Hitler’s last ally, General Franco. Almost immediately the King began to dismantle the power structures of the dictatorship from within. When the army tried to strike back it was the King who crushed the coup. While the whole cabinet and much of the Cortes (parliament) was held hostage, the King gathered junior government ministers around him and worked the phones calling the generals. Then he went on live TV. As Head of State he reassured the nation. As Commander in Chief he ordered the plotters to surrender. The coup collapsed.

For the next three decades he was the most popular Head of State in Europe. In recent years members of the King’s family have been criticized. His son-in-law has been accused of using his royal connections to further his business. Crown Prince Felipe, however, has long been engaged in quiet diplomacy on behalf of Spain and competed as a sailor in the 1992 Barcelona Olympics. Felipe remains popular, and is likely to bring a similar dignity to the role to that shown by his father. -- http://libertarianpress.co.uk/2014/06/08/juan-carlos/

And also: http://mises.ca/posts/articles/felipe-vi-vivat-rex/
 
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