My impression of the rally.

[muzzled dogg]

However, I think CFL made a mistake by allowing a few of the speakers to say some really fringe things... both in the area of 9/11 truth and Christian activism.

i agree with this 110%

i felt so uncomfortable when that old ass former cop was up there preaching

 

[TheSkeptic]

Jim Guest estimated about 6,000 to 8,000 and the DC police estimated about 10,000. The march line took about 30 minutes to file in from beginning to end.

Never trust the police.

OK, that sounded kind of conspiracy-sticker-of-deathish.

Anyway, I guess 75% of the crowd left immediately after the march. Baffling.

 

[muzzled dogg]

I guess 75% of the crowd left immediately after the march. Baffling.

did you check in the shade?

 

[TheSkeptic]

In fairness, apparently I was wrong about CFL's role in this. I guess the rally wasn't organized by them after all - at least that is the word from someone who is apparently CFL staff over at their blog.

If so, this is an example of why the grassroots needs solid direction from seasoned, savvy campaign officials. I think that the seeming disconnect between RP's campaign and the ground troops during the campaign was a big problem.

 

[GigiBowman]

I spent the weekend in DC. What a wonderful time I had! Unfortunately coming in here has taken me of my high with all the pettiness. It was awesome....lovely company, wonderful speakers, the feeling of comradarie I haven't ever felt.....

why so negative in here? The amount of bitching that goes on in here makes me feel like I'm on the Obama vs McCain Website. Why are people so damned miserable! I thought Ron Paul supporters were more positive and forward moving and that in forming a Revolution and not excluding those who might think differently on some issues was our main goal....
but I come in here day after day and it's blah blah blah...disagreement over this disagreement over that.


Today I took a bus tour of DC with my husband. I didn't expect the emotional reaction I had when I walked into the Jefferson Memorial. It overwhelmed me reading the words inscribed in the marble walls.

Wake up everyone and stop nitpicking at every thing your fellow CFL member says.....

Relish the good and stop poking holes in everything until it all rots. This is it, we're all we have. If and when the shit hits the fan.....lets hope we haven't alienated too many....

When the Ron Paul Campaign first started I attended a Campaigning class given by the then campaign motivator for the campaign, Anita Andrews. She said to us "It's not so much about Ron Paul and if he does not win...it's about the connections we make and the people standing next to us by our side that will make the difference in this Revolution"

That won't happen if everyone alienates everyone else.

The feeling of elation at the March.....it was a beautiful thing.....

don't ruin this high by your petty comments nitpicking every damned thing.

 

[robert4rp08]

Just got home to Jersey from the March, GREAT TIME. It was my first march, first time hearing Dr. Paul in person, first time doing anything w/ politics.


I def had a love/hate relationship between the speakers, I'm all about freedom of religion but at the same time religion needs to stay away from gov. I'm very open mind towards anything including that 911 was inside job however, I don't believe it is a inside job and neither does Dr. Paul.

I though the Gentlemen from the veterans against Iraq War was GREAT. I love the guy who write that book(cant remeber the name of it), he was great.

also, on the way home 2nite; i could not figure out why this car was trying to catch up to me in till they where side by side w/ me shoving a Ron Paul sigh out the window ( I guess they notice the giant Ron Paul for president sticker i had on the back windshield of my car)


BTW, RON PAUL granddaughters are HOT

Thomas Woods

 

[TheSkeptic]

"Nitpicking" would be complaining about the color of Jack McLamb's shirt.

But being conscientious, critical, and thoughtful is an entirely different matter.

I am in no way "alienated" from this movement because of what Jack McLamb said - but I guarantee you that some passerby would have been. That's the whole point that you're missing.

My original post, and the consensus of most of those who followed, was that there was both good and bad, with the good outweighing. As I said, I drove 400 miles each way and I'm glad I came.

If this movement is going to grow, and move beyond "wow, we got 11% of the vote", there have to be people willing to offer constructive criticism. I am not better than anyone who organized this event - but I would be wrong to be silent about things that I feel have a negative impact on the goal we ALL share.



P.S. "Highs" don't win elections.

 

[New York For Paul]

In fairness, apparently I was wrong about CFL's role in this. I guess the rally wasn't organized by them after all - at least that is the word from someone who is apparently CFL staff over at their blog.

If so, this is an example of why the grassroots needs solid direction from seasoned, savvy campaign officials. I think that the seeming disconnect between RP's campaign and the ground troops during the campaign was a big problem.

There were many volunteers who ran this march. The intention was to not have anybody speak about 9/11 being an inside job type of talk.

Being that this was a volunteer effort, there were many problems to be overcome and many challenges to meet such as getting enough money for sound equipment, letting the grassroots know about the event etc.


Considering that the Phili rally had about the same number of people organized by a professional campaign staff with huge budgets at their disposal, the revolution march people did very well.

If they had relied on seasoned savvy campaign professionals the event probably wouldn't have happened.

There are many threads about the competency of the official Ron Paul campaign in the past and there will be more in the future.

 

[TheSkeptic]

Then I suppose, if the organizers asked the speakers to refrain from stuff like that, the blame lies on the speakers themselves.

To get some of the names they did - absolutely awesome job.


My point about the campaign giving direction was that someone with experience would have made this is a very serious issue - ie., "do not let anyone put on a tin foil hat while on stage."

I agree that the RP campaign was mismanaged. As much of a debt as we owe Kent Snyder for talking RP into running, I wish he had stepped down and let Dr. Paul hire some big guns. I even think part of the reason that RP got no press was because he didn't have anyone on staff with the connections that a lot of high dollar, high demand campaigners do...maybe it would have made no difference, who knows. But in Washington, everyone owes everyone else a favor. I have a feeling that if they would've spent the money on some serious campaign managers and press relations, things may have been a bit different.


Also not implying that the campaign should "do" the work - just work with the grassroots to oversee it. What's the saying? Zeal without wisdom is like a runaway horse?

 

[HenryKnoxFineBooks]

Welcome back to the forums TheSkeptic. How were your four months off from Feb. till July?



Easily 8,000 people at the Capitol Rally. Most were taken refuge in the shade.

 

[SnappleLlama]

Anyone else think Ron Paul looked awesomely snazzy in his blue shirt? YAY!!

 

[robert4rp08]

Anyone else think Ron Paul looked awesomely snazzy in his blue shirt? YAY!!

The sunglasses were sexay too!

 

[SnappleLlama]

The sunglasses were sexay too!

YES!! I know!! Oohh..I have to upload those pictures!! YAY!!

 

[brandon]

Considering that the Phili rally had about the same number of people organized by a professional campaign staff with huge budgets at their disposal, the revolution march people did very well.

Actually, the philly rally was completely planned in about a weeks time by the philly meetups without any help from the campaign. The campaign did fund the rally, but the budget was only half of what the revolution march had.

 

[SaratogaForRonPaul]

I was at both at the April 15th Rally and this weekend's Rally. The April 15th rally had around 2,500 throughout the day, but only filled a small area of the Capitol lawn. This weekend the whole lawn was filed with thousands in the shade. It was easily 6-8 times bigger than the April event. I took a picture after the March of the Capitol from the distance, and it showed the massive humanity of patriotism.

 

[Shii]

Something else...there were a lot of hangers on at this event. What I mean by that are vendors, and people passing out literature for their websites and/or products.

I understand the cross promotion, but thought there was a little too much going on. Some will probably disagree. It just kind of cheapens it when there are 100 people there trying to make money.

You know, dude, I enjoyed getting the pamphlets. It was an expression of freedom and let me consider a lot of people's opinions and events on their own merits.

Unfortunately Zendik is a cult.

 

[TheSkeptic]

Unfortunately Zendik is a cult.

And to think I almost got in a van with those guys....

Welcome back to the forums TheSkeptic. How were your four months off from Feb. till July?

Very, very busy. Glad you asked.

Easily 8,000 people at the Capitol Rally. Most were taken refuge in the shade.

My friend, I wish there had been 1,000,000. And if there had only been 10, I would still be glad I went. But as for 8,000 at the rally.... I think the heat got to you.

 

[Charles Wilson]

I just got back-

I agree with the OP. The rally/march was good. most speakers were really good. A couple were to religious which was a huge turn off.

And colored sticker man was a complete lunatic. He also told us several times that there were undercover "cia, fbi, police, and dii agents" at the rally studying us. He said he know this for fact. At one point he even specifically addressed these make believe under cover agents.

There really are alot of people in the movement who are completely insane. I have alot more stories for later. I have to get some sleep now though.

I learned years ago that .2% of the population acting unstable/strange can give the impression that we all are nuts.

After seeing the fantastic pictures and videos of the march, I am convinced that 99.999 percent of Ron Paul supporters are the cream of the crop. I hope to attend the Campaign For Liberty rally in MN. "CFW Reporting 4 Duty Sir".

 

[Crash Martinez]

7K

As many people in attendance are aware, my brother and I were at the pre-rally march handing out flyers for his congressional campaign. We brought between 1,500 and 2,000 flyers, and we ran out of them within 45 minutes. Many more people showed up after our flyers were exhausted. I am convinced there were approximately 7,000 people at the height of the crowd (namely, during Dr. Paul's awe-inspiring speech).

Peter Gay

 

[TheSkeptic]

Anyone else think Ron Paul looked awesomely snazzy in his blue shirt? YAY!!

He looked casually Presidential. He was rockin' those Aviators.