My impression of the rally.

[brandon]

I just got back-

I agree with the OP. The rally/march was good. most speakers were really good. A couple were to religious which was a huge turn off.

And colored sticker man was a complete lunatic. He also told us several times that there were undercover "cia, fbi, police, and dii agents" at the rally studying us. He said he know this for fact. At one point he even specifically addressed these make believe under cover agents.

There really are alot of people in the movement who are completely insane. I have alot more stories for later. I have to get some sleep now though.

 

[TruthisTreason]

There really are alot of people in the movement who are completely insane. I have alot more stories for later. I have to get some sleep now though.

I must have been getting a hot dog or something when this guys was speaking. But I did meet a few "insane" people, a few really intelligent people, a few really religious people, ... etc I big mix of all walks of life.

 

[TruthisTreason]

Jim Guest estimated about 6,000 to 8,000 and the DC police estimated about 10,000. The march line took about 30 minutes to file in from beginning to end.

Not bad for a few dozen spammers.

 

[Drknows]

fuck the wonkette glad there was a good turn out.

 

[american.swan]

Probably thinking about or meant the Declaration of Independence.

"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal,
that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, ..."

Thank you.

"you can be certain, still funny though."

 

[sidster]

Is it really hard too believe?

And colored sticker man was a complete lunatic. He also told us several times that there were undercover "cia, fbi, police, and dii agents" at the rally studying us. He said he know this for fact. At one point he even specifically addressed these make believe under cover agents.

See here "[http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?t=138493]Feds Seeking a few Good Moles for RNC[/url]" thread. So if that
claim is credible why not this one?

 

[Jeremiah]

G. Edward Griffen has a really good series for download on the War on Terror and the 9/11 attack at his website http://freedomforceinternational.org/. He accepts that it was an attack along the lines of the USS Main, the Lusitania, Pearl Harbour, and the Gulf of Tonkin incident; in other words the authorities knew it was going to happen, knew it was going on, and stood aside to let it happen to fit in with their geopolitical agenda to invade Afghanistan and Iraq. Iran is definitely next on the list.

These facts are consistent with the building of the global government that has been going on for at least three hundred years. The Federal Reserve was just the last piece of the central banking network that had been built since the founding of the Bank of England in 1694. The institution of a central bank is a key component of the Communist Manifesto that was published in 1848. Destruction of the moral foundations of the nation and the influence of the church were other objectives in the Manifesto. The revolution in America, to turn her into a collectivist state and prepare her for her role in the global government, took place in the 1930's under FDR.

These, and much much more, are easily demonstrated historical facts and they should be known by any serious revolutionary. How much you communicate to any particular person would depend on how emotionally and cognitively conditioned you perceive them to be. The first step in advancing the liberty revolution must be to change the state of mind of the people. This is the stage the C4L is presently at and there is a long way to go.

 

[inibo]

People have pretty much covered most of what I would have said. As to the numbers, we always seem to go through this.


This is the crowd as it gathered before the march. I apologize for the crappy editing job.

This is the crowd as it gathered at the Capitol building. People were still arriving when I took these shots.

I spent most of the day with llepard. He estimated about 1,000 to 2,000 at the gathering point. I thought it might have been a bit more than that.

Once we got to the rally site the crowd had grown. At that point I said to him, "This is not 1,500 people."

He looked at me and smiled. "No it's not," he said.

My sense was it was at least the size of Philly. I would have said 5,000.

This guy, who is by no means a Paul supporter, estimated 5,000 to 7,000. (He also took some great pictures.) I'd like to know about that police estimate of 10,000. I thought they stopped making estimates before the Million Man March.

Anyway, it was hot.

Adam Kokesh was a firebrand. He got himself marked down as a dangerous man yesterday.

Overall the speakers were great. Some strayed off topic in my opinion, but my opinion really doesn't mean squat in the grand scheme of things.

As to "too much Christianity," maybe, but as a non-Christian, I most certainly welcome this:

For those who care to see them, I have about 90 pictures here. I apologize for the quality, but my real camera died and I had to resort to my cell-phone.

As an aside, is it just me, or has the number of supporters of the female persuasion increased lately? There were certainly a lot there yesterday.

 

[liberalnurse]

I was there and agree with most on the speakers. IMOP I fell there were at least 5,000+ that marched. Agree that there were probably only 2,000 or so left for Rons' speech. We were on the right side of the lawn under a big, beautiful shady tree all day. We did not venture to the the stage. There were a few hundred of us who took refuge from the sun, no sunburn here. Many with children. Many of those with children left early on before Ron's speech. Overall I think it was very much a success. I loved the vibe..Peace

 

[sidster]

This is the crowd as it gathered before the march. I apologize for the crappy editing job.

Nice panoramic pics...

This guy, who is by no means a Paul supporter, estimated 5,000 to 7,000. (He also took some great pictures.) I'd like to know about that police estimate of 10,000. I thought they stopped making estimates before the Million Man March.

Hmm.. who is "that guy"?

Adam Kokesh was a firebrand. He got himself marked down as a dangerous man yesterday.

more info?

 

[libertygrl]

Unfortunately, I was unable to attend the march/rally because of a family wedding. However, I was able to hear some of the speeches online. I have to say that some of the posts I've been reading here in response to some of the speakers really disappoints me!

First off, NEVER FORGET that Liberty means having the freedom to speak your mind on issues that some people may not completey agree with. The term extremism seems to get thrown about quite easily around here, when someone simply disagrees with what has just been said. Does anyone recall the same term being used to describe Ron Paul very early on in his campaign? (As well as us for that matter!)

I'll have to listen to the McLamb speech. If he was giving a sermon trying to convert people that's not acceptable, but if he happened to invoke the name of God/Jesus a few times, why does it freak people out so much? We're a nation founded by Christian/Judaeo principles and this man obviously lives by these principles. It's a known historical fact that Jesus did exist. Can't non-believers just accept him as an historical figure promoting peace like a Ghandi or MLK Jr.? These petty jugemental comments about religion, 9-11, etc just divide us and serve no purpose whatsoever.

What I have learned for myself over the past 2 years is that certain subjects that I once considered "extreme" (Partly because of my conditioning from the MSM), really isn't so extreme afterall! I guess that was the frightening part of my discovery. There are things going on people - really bad stuff - that if you took the time to dig deep and research instead of reacting to it from an emotional standpoint, you will uncover the deceptions that have been going on for quite some time now. Is McLamb a kook? I don't know. I'll have to do more research on the "mailbox stickers" before I prejudge him. Yeah, it sounds crazy but I've been reading a lot of crazy things lately that have been confirmed to be true. . There are great resources - particularly the following book that opened my eyes to many things I once considered extremist:

If you've got the stomach, read Crossing The Rubicon:
http://www.amazon.com/Crossing-Rubi...bs_sr_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1215991177&sr=8-1

From Reviewer Robert Steele:
"As the #1 Amazon reviewer for non-fiction about global issues and national security (#66 over-all), as a former spy, founder of the Marine Corps Intelligence Command, and CEO and proponent for Open Source Intelligence (OSINT), I think I have a good foundation for evaluating this book. It is so compelling and so troubling that I was obliged to create an eight-page worksheet to ensure I understood the details.

Bottom line: he (author Mike Ruppart) has NOT provided enough evidence to convict Cheney, but he HAS provided enough evidence to suggest that the 9-11 Commission was very derelict in its duties; that very select elements of the U.S. Government are engaging in a cover-up after facilitating the murder of U.S. citizens; and that a public investigation and trial of Dick Cheney are required...."

I'll leave it at that for those people who believe others should remain silent simply because they feel certain viewpoints are too extreme and will hurt the campaign for Liberty.

Keep in mind that what made the Revolution movement so successful is that we were united in a common cause - liberty - despite our beliefs and differences. I don't always agree with everything someone in the movement might believe or say however, I respect their right to do so.

 

[inibo]

Nice panoramic pics...

Thanks

Hmm.. who is "that guy"?

"That guy" is Jonn Lilyea. He has a blog called "This Ain't Hell, But You Can See It From Here." I don't know much about him because I just found his blog today. He appears he would be quite comfortable over at Little Green Footballs.

more info?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zaKcAJguBzo
http://kokesh.blogspot.com/

The full text of his speech from yesterday is here: http://kokesh.blogspot.com/2008/07/duty-to-resist.html

It's a barn burner.

 

[New York For Paul]

This was put together by volunteers all across the country who were doing this type of event for the first time.

At times it was overwhelming. Lots of details to keep track of.

 

[revolutionman]

Some will probably disagree. It just kind of cheapens it when there are 100 people there trying to make money.

I'm one of those people who disagree.

I dare you to rally thousands of libertarian free market loving capitalists to one place and expect at least a few to try and make a buck. Its built into the very nature of our movement.

 

[robert4rp08]

Here are my Photos from the Revolution March

 

[dgingerich]

I was in Philly for the rally that had 5000, and this was FAR larger than that. I'd say there had to be at least around 10,000. Where people are coming up with 1000 - 2000, I don't know. I'd hate for those people to estimate my taxes! I'd be paying penalties for years. I'd say the march stretched close to a mile long. With that in mind, there are 5000 odd feet in a mile. If there were only 2000 people, you would have had to stretch everyone out single file 2.5 feet apart to reach that distance. That's why there had to be at least 10,000. We were stretched out for a mile with a couple small gaps, but people lined up across the width of the street for the most part.

In any case, the rally was great. It was great to hear some different people speak from different view points. Surprisingly, Naomi Wolfe was great. I also really enjoyed Jack McLamb and Michael Scheuer. Of course, Ron Paul was great as well. I was very encouraged by the turnout, and I think having it on Saturday may have made a bigger impact than during the week because there were a lot of tourists who may have had their eyes opened. Sure, Congress would have been there during the week, but does anybody really believe they're listening?! I had several people come up to me and ask about what was going on, and they just happened to be walking by. I even got a couple questions about my shirt on the Metro afterwards. All in all, I think the rally was a huge success. Thanks to everyone who helped organize it, and to all of the volunteers (especially the medics who brought me an orange and a bottle of water when I nearly passed out from heat cramps and exhaustion). Long live the Revolution!

 

[silverhandorder]

The rally was great. NY had big representation there. Kept running into people I worked with back here.

Two big issues. First too many speakers. It was a hot day and they had 3 hours before they got out with their big guys. I could have easily cut at least 6. I really enjoyed the beginning and end.

Second some of the more fringe speaking got me mad. I know its a freedom movement but do those people have a head on their shoulders?! Jack McLamb was it that spoke about dots on mail boxes? That guy scared the shit out of me. I will not say he does not have the right to spew that crap, but this was not the venue for that. Also talking about 9/11 like gov't caused it is not politically good move. I bet many people do not support that version and were too nice to boo. Some people who said it were pretty smart speakers and I would completely agree with them on everything else.

9/11 people were present but not many were there. They did not push 9/11 and I have to give them respect for that. Police were great and some were engaging in conversation with people at places.

 

[dgingerich]

I enjoyed Jack McLamb's speech. The mailbox stickers sounds a little far fetched, but I wouldn't rule it out. Yes, he did talk about God, but he wasn't trying to convert people. He was simply saying that this nation was founded on Christian principles, and like it or not, that is true. He didn't say you have to be a Christian, but a country does need some kind of moral base. If you don't have a standard, then everything will eventually fall apart, and we're seeing that now. The fact is that morals are important, and there has to be some kind of standard, not just what the people happen to like at the time. If you base your standards on public opinion, eventually the entire society will just fall apart because people will vote for "what feels good" to them instead of what's best for the society. That's why McLamb was talking about Christian morals and ethics. It wasn't meant to be a "national religion," but it was the standard that this country was founded on. It'd be hard to find another set of morals any better. Christian morals are all about love for God and love for your neighbor. If you do everything thinking about loving your neighbor, you'll never go wrong. However, as a Christian myself, I don't think we should ever push our personal choices on someone else. I may not agree with everyone's choices, but if they aren't hurting anyone else, then they should be able to do whatever they want. God gives people free will, and they should be able to choose what they want to do, even if they're harming themselves. If it harms me or somebody else, then that's a different story.

 

[silverhandorder]

Oh I don't want to sound like an asshole. He has every right to say what he wants. I will not say what I think about his theory on the stickers. However as I said before he should not have talked about it. I don't want this to divide anyone, so take what I say as constructive criticism.

 

[GigiBowman]

It would appear Bob Barr was noticably absent. In the back of my mind, I keep wondering if he isn't a plant to the libertarian party from the Republican Party to distract form Dr. Paul and possibly even Baldwin. (As an aside, I will only vote for Ron Paul or Ron Paul Republicans for other offices, or I will abstain from the vote.) Ever since I saw Barr during his prosecutory role of Bill Clinton, I admired him in some ways, but I wouldn't want him as an enemy...I'd be afraid he wouldn't play fair and use every tactic possible. I don't want that in a President, much less one who seems to have done his own share of flip flopping. I'd prefer religion not be an a topic in a candidacy and that the issue be handled as Ron Paul does. He just fulfills my qualifications as a President...one that during this hard time for our country we desperately need. Nice reporting all....only wish there had been more participants and sorry I couldn't make it.

Bob Barr was at the Freedom Rally in NV this weekend and was signed up to speak today. That was set up long before the March.