My County Won't Take my money! Help needed!

[BeFranklin]

Contact the office of this guy, and see if you can get any help. The state shouldn't be creating rules for legal acceptance of tender when they aren't allowed to use anything but gold and silver in the first place. That they've devalued the change so much that its hard to use is their fault, not yours. They shouldn't have devauled the change in the first place by making it cheap metal which is unconstitutional.

Indianapolis, Indiana -- State Senator Greg Walker of District 41,

 

[Grimnir Wotansvolk]

Take her advice and wrap it. With duct tape.

 

[BeFranklin]

I got a 100.00 ticket for the same thing. Just pay it and put your license in a wallet or something that's always with you.

Yes, and we should have paid taxes on our tea too If he wants to do it and has time, let him.

Should see if you can't make an argument like the above first, and contact the staff of that senator to see if you can find an ally or two.

 

[Sandra]

Contact the office of this guy, and see if you can get any help. The state shouldn't be creating rules for legal acceptance of tender when they aren't allow to use anything but gold and silver in the first place. That they've devalued the change so much that its hard to use is their fault, not yours. They shouldn't have devauled the change in the first place by making it cheap metal which is unconstitutional.

Indianapolis, Indiana -- State Senator Greg Walker of District 41,

This crap has been brought to court in every state. The ruling will be the same . roll it.

I wouldn't take it either if it weren't rolled. Would you?

 

[devil21]

Many local ordinance laws and rules can be found at www.municode.com.

 

[Jordan]

This crap has been brought to court in every state. The ruling will be the same . roll it.

I wouldn't take it either if it weren't rolled. Would you?

Does rolling it make it legal tender. The thing is I gave them exactly how much they needed in legal tender. It is their responsibility to take care of it.

 

[Jordan]

Many local ordinance laws and rules can be found at www.municode.com.

Thanks for the link, unfortunately my city isnt covered.

 

[BeFranklin]

This crap has been brought to court in every state. The ruling will be the same . roll it.

I wouldn't take it either if it weren't rolled. Would you?

The only reason its hard to count is because its been devalued by the governmnet not following the law.

I didn't say to take it to court. The poster is from Indiana, and there is a movement there with gold and silver. Make an issue of it in the press and not the court, and create a lot of noise.

 

[brandon]

I got a traffic ticket, stupid ridiculous ticket I should have never gotten.

Anyway, I went in to pay it with $115.50 in all change, every last cent of it. And guess what?

They wouldn't take it.

The lady said it had to be rolled. I asked for paperwork or some statute that makes coinage that is not rolled nontender. No dice.

They must know how worthless the dollar is know.

Anyway, I'm going back on Monday but I'm going to be armed and ready. I need sources, citations, something to tell them that "you're going to take my money and I'm not rolling it for you."

Any help, I live in Indiana BTW.

Oh man, I think I remember seeing a video about this on youtube...like local news coverage of your story or something. Hah, figures you're a Ron Paul supporter. Good luck!

 

[Jordan]

The only reason its hard to count is because its been devalued by the governmnet not following the law.

I didn't say to take it to court. The poster is from Indiana, and there is a movement there with gold and silver. Make an issue of it in the press and not the court, and create a lot of noise.

Theres a lot of interest here too. I'm from the hometown of the Liberty Dollar, we'll see what interesting things RPFers can come up with over the weekend. If its not paying in change, I can make this protest worth something somehow.

 

[Jordan]

Oh man, I think I remember seeing a video about this on youtube...like local news coverage of your story or something. Hah, figures you're a Ron Paul supporter. Good luck!

Ha I wish. That was someone who paid a boatload of property taxes in dollars, then the next year in $1 gold coins. Next year he threatened with quarters, dimes etc down the line each year.

 

[ihsv]

Something like this might be worth calling a laywer and getting his advice. Also, you might want to call the local media and see if they can follow you with a camera. That always makes the lobotomized monkeys freak out. More than likely they'll tell you you're not allowed to film there. That's another issue you can take up with the lawyer beforehand.

 

[Sandra]

Jordan, ask yourself " if I do this, will I be forced to take payment like this"?

 

[Jordan]

Jordan, ask yourself " if I do this, will I be forced to take payment like this"?

I have no problems taking a payment like that. My bank does conversions to cash for free like many others, without it being wrapped and without bitching about it.

 

[LittleLightShining]

Trust me I've got all the time in the world and was fully prepared to wait. I brought a foldout chair in my backpack with me

I'm going back with the US code in hand, if they don't take it then I dont know. They just have to. Ha

They have to take it. Bring a video camera. Tell them to show you where it says coins must be rolled. If you have the time you should stand firm on this one.

Jordan, ask yourself " if I do this, will I be forced to take payment like this"?

What difference does it make? It's money and at least coins have intrinsic value.

 

[BeFranklin]

Jordan, ask yourself " if I do this, will I be forced to take payment like this"?

Not under the constitution. Legal tender just means what the government forces you to use legally, like in taxes, fines, and judgements from courts when you lose.

Since the governmnet is suppose to be the servant, I think asking yourself first is this how my servant is suppose to be acting is more relevant here.

 

[angelatc]

I have no problems taking a payment like that. My bank does conversions to cash for free like many others, without it being wrapped and without bitching about it.

As they should. They have big coin counting machines for just this purpose.

 

[Goldwater64]

I tend to agree with you...I would guess their arguement would go something like this:

Rolling the coins doesn't make them "legal tender" or "not legal tender" but rather it is an office policy, just like having to wait in line or having to pay during business hours. For instance, if you show up with the amount you owe at 2am, they don't have to take it. If you show up with coins unrolled, they don't have to take it.

I still side with you...but to be fair, that will probably be their response.

 

[satchelmcqueen]

use .50 cent pieces or just 1 dollar bills if this dont work.

 

[Michael Landon]

I would take it to court. Not the unacceptance of your money but the traffic offense. By paying the ticket you are pleading guilty and thus cannot argue your innocence. Going to court will allow you have the possibility of keeping the offense off your record, but you'll probably still end up paying the fine. Be sure to set up a meeting with the prosecuting attorney and plea bargain down the offense to just the fine with no mark on your record. I have an attorney in Minnesota that deals with traffic offenses all the time and that's his recommendation. Once I find a link to his law office, I'm sure he'd be happy to give you the correct way to go about doing this.

Strauss, Jerry - Strauss & Goldberger
(612) 335-8877
250 2nd Ave S, #286, Minneapolis, MN 55401

He does a spot on a local sports talk radio program where he accepts calls and he ALWAYS tells people to set up a pre-trial meeting and try to plead down the ticket to keep it off your record. The main thing is to keep your record clean.

- ML