The Rebel Poet
Member
- Joined
- Mar 12, 2013
- Messages
- 1,732
I was raised in America, and I don't feel that way. How can you be sure?
Murdering navy SEAL thug Chris Kyle sniped in New Orleans
- Thread starter jmdrake
- Start date
I'd say the killing of people who did nothing to him, or his country
and
His bragging (and lying) about shooting "looters" in New Orleans.
Mean his actions speak for all of his... ....best intentions.
PRB
Member
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2013
- Messages
- 6,006
or he could've lied and killed nobody at all during Katrina.
PRB
Member
- Joined
- Nov 4, 2013
- Messages
- 6,006
one supposedly lie cost his wife close to $2M.
enhanced_deficit
Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2013
- Messages
- 28,575
EM.
Could this also happen when he was not drunkard vizavee Iraqi freedom operation?
In other news, moderate hollywood neecons at WB released this trailor couple of weeks ago:
I saw the movie American Sniper yesterday. It was disturbing. It showed his first kills as a child and then a woman.
More than anything, I got a sense of what a waste the Iraq war was. I'm sure others in the theatre only got some pro-imperialist message but I don't think it was sugar-coated or even glorified the Iraq war.
At the end, it really shows a lack of remorse that Kyle had for everything he did.
More than anything, I got a sense of what a waste the Iraq war was. I'm sure others in the theatre only got some pro-imperialist message but I don't think it was sugar-coated or even glorified the Iraq war.
At the end, it really shows a lack of remorse that Kyle had for everything he did.
Last edited:
enhanced_deficit
Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2013
- Messages
- 28,575
TwelveOhOne
Member
- Joined
- Jan 9, 2015
- Messages
- 22
I won't lecture you on good political sense, although it seems that you could benefit from some charm school.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swastika
If you choose to read the above, you will see the very first image listed there looks the same as the "SS" Nazi version (the backwards one is "ZZ" which I had previously thought was the Indian symbol; turns out, the Indian symbol goes both ways, so the "SS" swastika really is an Indian symbol). It has the caption:
"Swastika, a symbol of auspiciousness in Hinduism, Buddhism and Jainism."
So memories of high school, while perhaps nostalgic, aren't necessarily the right way to navigate one's way through life.
enhanced_deficit
Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2013
- Messages
- 28,575
'Legend' of American sniper Chris Kyle looms over murder trial
By Ed Lavandera, CNN Correspondent
Updated 9:54 AM ET, Mon February 9, 2015
Will 'American Sniper' debate affect veteran's trial? 02:53
One of thousands
Kyle's autobiography, which he wrote with the help of authors Scott McEwen and Jim DeFelice, was published eight months after SEAL Team Six executed the operation that killed Osama bin Laden.
That historic operation spurred fascination with the inner workings and personalities that make up one of the U.S. military's most secret and elite forces, yet many military veterans are leery of all the attention Kyle has received.
Kyle, they say, was one of tens of thousands of soldiers who served heroically in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"You remove Chris Kyle from the story, there's 20,000 other heroes that you can put in there," said CNN global affairs analyst James Reese, who runs Tiger Swan, a security consulting firm founded by ex-members of the U.S. Army's elite Delta Force.
Reese, who himself was a sniper, and served separately as a Delta Force commander during battles in Falluja, said special forces operators carry a mystique that appeals to Americans who've never served in the military.
"They are very dynamic," Reese said. "People are drawn to them. They are American heroes. But they're all American heroes."
Tall tales?
But there is a side to Kyle that's overlooked. It's left out of the book and movie, but a series of now-debunked stories have served only to make Kyle's legend larger.
In his autobiography, Kyle wrote about a confrontation with a celebrity whom he called "Scruff Face," later identified as former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura.
Kyle claimed in his book that Ventura told him that the SEALs "deserve to lose a few" in the wars and then, "I laid him out."
Ventura said the incident never happened and sued Kyle for defamation. Last year, a jury ordered Kyle's estate to pay Ventura nearly $2 million. The verdict is being appealed.
It is just one story in a collection of outlandish tales that Kyle reportedly repeated often.
Kyle bragged about traveling into New Orleans in the days after Hurricane Katrina with a fellow sniper and shooting at least 30 looters from the roof of the Superdome. There's no evidence anything of the sort ever occurred.
And then there's the story Kyle told of how he killed two men who tried to carjack him while he was stopped at a gas station along a rural highway southwest of Dallas. When police arrived to investigate and ran his driver's license, Kyle said, they received a phone number for someone at the Department of Defense. The story ends with the police officers letting Kyle drive away.
'No way to get an answer'
Kyle told the gas station story to Michael Mooney, a writer for D Magazine who was working on a profile. Mooney spent months trying to verify the story, he said.
He interviewed people at every gas station along the stretch of highway where the shooting allegedly happened. He spoke with state and local law enforcement officials in three counties. Nobody had ever heard of the incident.
"He was a hero. He was the most celebrated war hero of our time," Mooney said. "It's really hard to know what to think. We don't know. The fact is he was killed, and there's no way to get an answer from him now."
CNN asked Kyle's widow, Taya, to shed light on why her husband told these stories, but she declined the interview request. A representative said she was not available to speak about the incidents.
At Kyle's funeral, which, befitting the grandeur of his legend, was held in the Dallas Cowboys' massive football stadium, Taya Kyle did not shy away from her husband's darker side.
"I don't need to romanticize Chris because our reality is messy, passionate, full of every extreme emotion known to man, including fear, compassion, anger and pain," she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/
Chris Kyle's widow shoots an antelope to honor his memory
The widow of America's most successful sniper Chris Kyle has proved that she is also a crack shot during a recent antelope hunting trip in ...
Michelle Obama Praises American Sniper
By Ed Lavandera, CNN Correspondent
Updated 9:54 AM ET, Mon February 9, 2015
Will 'American Sniper' debate affect veteran's trial? 02:53
One of thousands
Kyle's autobiography, which he wrote with the help of authors Scott McEwen and Jim DeFelice, was published eight months after SEAL Team Six executed the operation that killed Osama bin Laden.
That historic operation spurred fascination with the inner workings and personalities that make up one of the U.S. military's most secret and elite forces, yet many military veterans are leery of all the attention Kyle has received.
Kyle, they say, was one of tens of thousands of soldiers who served heroically in the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan.
"You remove Chris Kyle from the story, there's 20,000 other heroes that you can put in there," said CNN global affairs analyst James Reese, who runs Tiger Swan, a security consulting firm founded by ex-members of the U.S. Army's elite Delta Force.
Reese, who himself was a sniper, and served separately as a Delta Force commander during battles in Falluja, said special forces operators carry a mystique that appeals to Americans who've never served in the military.
"They are very dynamic," Reese said. "People are drawn to them. They are American heroes. But they're all American heroes."
Tall tales?
But there is a side to Kyle that's overlooked. It's left out of the book and movie, but a series of now-debunked stories have served only to make Kyle's legend larger.
In his autobiography, Kyle wrote about a confrontation with a celebrity whom he called "Scruff Face," later identified as former Minnesota Gov. Jesse Ventura.
Kyle claimed in his book that Ventura told him that the SEALs "deserve to lose a few" in the wars and then, "I laid him out."
Ventura said the incident never happened and sued Kyle for defamation. Last year, a jury ordered Kyle's estate to pay Ventura nearly $2 million. The verdict is being appealed.
It is just one story in a collection of outlandish tales that Kyle reportedly repeated often.
Kyle bragged about traveling into New Orleans in the days after Hurricane Katrina with a fellow sniper and shooting at least 30 looters from the roof of the Superdome. There's no evidence anything of the sort ever occurred.
And then there's the story Kyle told of how he killed two men who tried to carjack him while he was stopped at a gas station along a rural highway southwest of Dallas. When police arrived to investigate and ran his driver's license, Kyle said, they received a phone number for someone at the Department of Defense. The story ends with the police officers letting Kyle drive away.
'No way to get an answer'
Kyle told the gas station story to Michael Mooney, a writer for D Magazine who was working on a profile. Mooney spent months trying to verify the story, he said.
He interviewed people at every gas station along the stretch of highway where the shooting allegedly happened. He spoke with state and local law enforcement officials in three counties. Nobody had ever heard of the incident.
"He was a hero. He was the most celebrated war hero of our time," Mooney said. "It's really hard to know what to think. We don't know. The fact is he was killed, and there's no way to get an answer from him now."
CNN asked Kyle's widow, Taya, to shed light on why her husband told these stories, but she declined the interview request. A representative said she was not available to speak about the incidents.
At Kyle's funeral, which, befitting the grandeur of his legend, was held in the Dallas Cowboys' massive football stadium, Taya Kyle did not shy away from her husband's darker side.
"I don't need to romanticize Chris because our reality is messy, passionate, full of every extreme emotion known to man, including fear, compassion, anger and pain," she said.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/09/us/chris-kyle-american-sniper/
Chris Kyle's widow shoots an antelope to honor his memory
The widow of America's most successful sniper Chris Kyle has proved that she is also a crack shot during a recent antelope hunting trip in ...
Michelle Obama Praises American Sniper
enhanced_deficit
Member
- Joined
- Mar 17, 2013
- Messages
- 28,575
Similar threads
