MSNBC Now - will talk about Hannity chase

[jasonjasonjason1]

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[ChristopherBearkat]

The people who would be turned off by this video wouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the first place.

I thought it was funny....but I'm also 24 and would have been at the front of the pack. As long he wasn't touched (which he wasn't) then we're good.

I think it showed the enthusiasm of Dr. Paul's supporters. (Which is the lifeblood of any campaign.)

 

[Thomas Paine]

The people who would be turned off by this video wouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the first place.

I thought it was funny....but I'm also 24 and would have been at the front of the pack. As long he wasn't touched (which he wasn't) then we're good.

I think it showed the enthusiasm of Dr. Paul's supporters. (Which is the lifeblood of any campaign.)

That's exactly right. The people turned off by this video wouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the first place.

 

[Duckman]

The ultimate goal of this campaign is to get Ron Paul the nomnation and then president. In order to do that we need votes. We need, most of all, the votes of Republicans. Stuff like this does not win the GOP base on our side. If you can't accept that reality, well, I don't know what to say.

All throughout this campaign alot of people have felt this is not important, that we need to attract attention. I have to say, the people who have felt that way have done well in getting us fervent supporters, but also gave Ron Paul a high unfavorability rating among Republicans (I don't think this hurt us so much for others). We have been both a positive and a negative force in what we have done here. I'm hoping this plays well with independents who can vote for Ron Paul in NH.

 

[Thomas Paine]

All throughout this campaign alot of people have felt this is not important, that we need to attract attention. I have to say, the people who have felt that way have done well in getting us fervent supporters, but also gave Ron Paul a high unfavorability rating among Republicans (I don't think this hurt us so much for others). We have been both a positive and a negative force in what we have done here. I'm hoping this plays well with independents who can vote for Ron Paul in NH.

Any person supporting any of the other candidates is not a true Republican.

 

[leglock]

Those who hate Hillary are going to Obama.

Any person supporting any of the other candidates is not a true Republican.

So now we're saying "Ron Paul is the only true Republican" as opposed to "Ron paul is the true Conservative." Roger that, boss.

Didn't see any snowballs. Any such allegations would be summarily dismissed in any court of competent jurisdiction.

You'd make a GREAT lawyer, gosh..you'd argue the cash for reasonable doubt on murder just because you didn't see the murder wouldn't you..?

But seriously...

At three different points of the footage....

"STOP THROWING STUFF...."
"STOP THROWING SNOW.."
""STOP THROWING SHIT, STOP THROWING SHIT!!!!"

 

[Flirple]

I see this as a minus to the Paul campaign. But a plus to the r3volution...

If that makes any sense...

That is a very astute observation. And I think I agree.

 

[amy31416]

Ah, once again, the vocal minority ruins it for the rest of us.

Us well-behaved RP supporters have to deal with the stigma these few select folks create for us.

Lovely.

Nothing pisses me off more than some of our own screwing things up. The people in NH are taking so much time and care in their support of RP and these, *(*%%%#@@ ruin it!

I am so irritated by this. One of our local meetup people who's in NH wrote the group about this like it was something to be proud of. I'm disgusted.

 

[amy31416]

The people who would be turned off by this video wouldn't be voting for Ron Paul in the first place.

I thought it was funny....but I'm also 24 and would have been at the front of the pack. As long he wasn't touched (which he wasn't) then we're good.

I think it showed the enthusiasm of Dr. Paul's supporters. (Which is the lifeblood of any campaign.)

I'm turned off by this video and I'm voting for Ron Paul.

Digest that.

When enthusiasm turns to mindless mob mentality, it's time to step back and reconsider your methods.

 

[coffeewithchess]

I see this as a minus to the Paul campaign. But a plus to the r3volution...

If that makes any sense...

I agree, I was talking with my wife tonight and how in "V for Vendetta" there is the line in the movie "SO much chaos, someone will do something stupid and when they do things will turn nasty..." I told her this is what I think may end up happening with a Ron Paul supporter...I hope not, but some of US even scare me a little.

 

[InTheoryTV]

Leno said to Ron Paul tonight that he thought that if he was Ron Paul that he would be kicking someones ass.

Ron Paul laughed.

We have been short changed. Some taunting and maybe a snow ball thrown??

OH NOES

 

[Jodi's mom]

I think we need to use our heads about this. Ron's supporters didn't hurt Hannity, even though he deserves to have his ass kicked. I can't stand sissy-boys that continually use their power and clout to bully others, but when someone dares to retaliate, they are the assholes!

Being gentlemen and ladies towards Hannity won't get make a point with him. He's a power-mad, arrogant ass. He loves his "position". He needs to be brought down a peg or two, but we need to stay within the law!

I gag when I remember how people called in to his radio program to tell him what a good American he is. He's not an American! He's a war-mongering fascist pig who doesn't have a patriotic bone in his body, and he damn sure doesn't believe in first amendment rights or equal treatment.

Let's continue bringing Faux News down by boycotting them!

Remember, we wouldn't have to act as we do if they (the media) were fair. Like Ron said on Leno, he raised more money than the others in the 4th quarter and was higher in the polls than Thompson or Guiliani, so what was their reason for shutting him out of the debate? BECAUSE THEY INTEND TO CENSOR HIM! How is that "American"? Right! it's not!

 

[liberty_Forever]

Oh c'mon guys, the media have slandered us CONSTANTLY. They have an agenda to protect. What they are afraid of most is our ideas.

Sean Hannity is a coward and a bully. Yes, the Sean Hannity chase wasn't exactly the best idea. I certainly agree. These kids should have been more polite and they should have been more eloquent. But give them a break, they are young and passionate. THESE ARE THE ONES WHO WILL GET DRAFTED during the expansion of the Middle East war. They stand to lose the most from the collapsing economy. In case you haven't noticed, they don't have a future AND THEY KNOW IT. Don't tell me you were never 16-22. At least they care and are willing to confront these cowards. My message to them is this: Tone it down, stay positive, articulate your message clearly, but always be fearless to confront tyranny. Lead by moral example.

At least these kids are not watching their TVs and buying Fox's crap any longer. They have left their computer screens and confronted one of the most dishonest people in the media. I agree it will have BOTH positive and negative consequences. It might be bad short term, but good long term, because it shows that we are not afraid to confront these evil and ignorant men. No conservative revolution has succeeded without the support of the youth.

You can be damn sure we have sent a message to the corrupt liars that have hijacked our country will have some serious trouble if they decide to declare martial law or proceed with their twisted and evil plans (NAU, etc).

Yes, we must reject mob rule. We must support the rule of law and the US Constitution. . .But c'mon these are just kids! They have made mistakes, but at least they are trying. So long as they are not trashing private property or hurting anyone, it's not the end of the world. Honestly, these kids deserve straight answers from Sean Hannity, because he is more than willing to spill their blood. The media will make up lies about Ron Paul regardless of what we do. Of course we can avoid giving the MSM ammo for smear pieces, but we can also confront these news pundits and petty tyrants to demand answers.

We *must* show the world we are not afraid to stand up for the US Constitution.

 

[Hook]

Full Youtube?

 

[maxbish]

I'm turned off by this video and I'm voting for Ron Paul.

Digest that.

When enthusiasm turns to mindless mob mentality, it's time to step back and reconsider your methods.

I'm turned ON by this video and I'm voting for Ron Paul.

Digest that.

When complacency turns to non-involvement beyond your internet tubes, it's time to step back and reconsider your methods.

Like the previous poster said, even Leno told RP that he would have wanted to kick somone's ass @ Fixed News. This clip showed enthusiasm that was nothing remotely like mindless mob mentality. It was clever pressing Hannity for an interview just like his Fox minoins have done when they corner people for interviews on the street.

IMO I see more mindless mob mentality here on the board with GroupThink that blocks out points of constructive criticism. Now that type "head in the sand" mentality scares me.

 

[Corydoras]

Full Youtube?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMrHorlOB0k

 

[Swmorgan77]

OMG next thing you know the ron paul supporters will have suicide bomb belts strapped to them.

look, nothing personal, I appreciate what you are saying but Ron Paul is constantly talking about the youth vote propelling his campaign.

I don't think we are getting record turn out because of sympathy to be honest. I think people are voting this election because they are very very very upset.

Very upset.

The positive thing about this is not necessarily in how it appears to voters, but in how it will make media personalities think twice about their bias and decisions. Having to face real people and explain your actions can have a powerful effect.

 

[derdy]

Those who hate Hillary are going to Obama.

There are no absolutes. At a gun show we were handing out Ron Paul Slim Jims and DVDs at the door. A guy comes up to us and says, "Oh my god! Thank god you guys are here!"

Turns out he's a lifelong Democrat who thinks Hillary is the anti-christ and he likes Edwards, but thinks Ron Paul makes much more sense. He never mentioned Obama. He gave us $20 for the free DVD's and slim jims we gave him and is an avid supporter.

By the way, I think this was GREAT! These talking heads of mainstream media outlets that push their corporate agenda on the US populace 24x7 need to face reality that there are REAL people out here that are waking up to their lies and we're going to do something about it! There was nothing violent about following Hannity and shouting at him. Throwing snowballs at some one is rude and disrespectful, but that's karma for you.

 

[amy31416]

I'm turned ON by this video and I'm voting for Ron Paul.

Digest that.

When complacency turns to non-involvement beyond your internet tubes, it's time to step back and reconsider your methods.

Like the previous poster said, even Leno told RP that he would have wanted to kick somone's ass @ Fixed News. This clip showed enthusiasm that was nothing remotely like mindless mob mentality. It was clever pressing Hannity for an interview just like his Fox minoins have done when they corner people for interviews on the street.

IMO I see more mindless mob mentality here on the board with GroupThink that blocks out points of constructive criticism. Now that type "head in the sand" mentality scares me.

I'm coming around to accepting the occurrence. I'm not a pacifist, but I do believe in hostility and violence as a last resort. This is a revolution and there will be some impolite things occurring. I just initially reacted to this as being an opportunity for the media to paint us as a bunch of thugs and I get pissed off when we make "stupid moves" yet I realize that we need some boldness in order to achieve our goals.

I'm an amateur in politics and I sometimes err on the side of caution. Revolutionaries are not usually cautious people. While I certainly don't agree with anyone physically harming anyone (as was implied--throwing things at Hannity), I also understand that we need to make bold moves. I only hope that they are well thought out.

 

[jupiter]

I was originally appalled at the clip as I saw it live on Fox. Hannity referred to the RP supporters as "lunatics". I said to myself -- ok this is it, this clip by itself could destroy Ron Paul's chances.

I then saw the way that Frank Lutz was treated, when he actually stepped outside in the cold and bothered to discuss the whole focus group issue with the band of Ron Paul supporters. The supporters would not give him a decent chance to speak, etc, and terminated the conversation by swearing at him.

Is this the message of liberty, prosperity and values that is going to catch fire with mainstream _voters_ if not the MSM?

As much as enthusiasm is good, self-control amongst supporters is also necessary. Don't let the RP movement's greatest strength turn into its greatest weakness.

I've been a Ron Paul supporter for 5 years and running. I am dead serious regarding my desire for him to succeed. But, I don't want all of this energy and enthusiasm to be aborted because of a few overzealous moments.

Yes, the media is against us. But, the solution is _not_ to hand them propaganda victories.
Chasing Hannity down the street doesn't scare him. What will _really_ scare Hannity and Fox is if the supporters enthusiastically _and_ respectfully garner increasingly large proportions of voters.

This goal, however, is not compatible with the performances of the supporters regarding Lutz & Hannity.

We are in this to win it, not just to make a point.