MSNBC Blasts Paul on FEMA remarks

NO, NO, NO.
Ron Paul does not need to "frame" it differently. It is simple and plain truth.

The MSM and the hand wringers and Socialists will oppose it, as they oppose all wisdom and truth.

Get used to that. They use emotionalism to overrule logic. They want more and more government, not less.

They hate it that Ron tells the simple truth.

IT'S CONFUSING TRUTH. I have said it in my other post when Dr. Paul talks, it sounds like sorry folks you are on your own -- Earthquake, Fire, Floods etc. It sounds like there is no support from state government. He needs to say before 1980, we took care of things with help from local/state governments.
 
First and foremost that article is really using all of this out of contect. In 1900 when this happened, they didnt have the technology to warn people to secure or get out. THAT is why 6-12K people died and if Fema was around then, it still wouldnt have done anything.

Second, RP needs to talk about it as being a states issue because the Federal Government has and is incompetent. (nobody argues with that statement) If you ask someone to name a time that FEMA responded in a perfect way and met or exceeded expectations, they stutter and cant. If he simplys says that the Tax money should be left to the states and allow them to take care of themselves and their neighbors, then he doesnt look crazy and gets the support.
 
http://mises.org/daily/3627

I return without my approval House bill number 10203, entitled "An Act to enable the Commissioner of Agriculture to make a special distribution of seeds in drought-stricken counties of Texas, and making an appropriation therefor."

It is represented that a long-continued and extensive drought has existed in certain portions of the State of Texas, resulting in a failure of crops and consequent distress and destitution.

Though there has been some difference in statements concerning the extent of the people's needs in the localities thus affected, there seems to be no doubt that there has existed a condition calling for relief; and I am willing to believe that, notwithstanding the aid already furnished, a donation of seed grain to the farmers located in this region, to enable them to put in new crops, would serve to avert a continuance or return of an unfortunate blight.

And yet I feel obliged to withhold my approval of the plan as proposed by this bill, to indulge a benevolent and charitable sentiment through the appropriation of public funds for that purpose.

I can find no warrant for such an appropriation in the Constitution, and I do not believe that the power and duty of the general government ought to be extended to the relief of individual suffering which is in no manner properly related to the public service or benefit. A prevalent tendency to disregard the limited mission of this power and duty should, I think, be steadfastly resisted, to the end that the lesson should be constantly enforced that, though the people support the government, the government should not support the people.

The friendliness and charity of our countrymen can always be relied upon to relieve their fellow citizens in misfortune. This has been repeatedly and quite lately demonstrated. Federal aid in such cases encourages the expectation of paternal care on the part of the government and weakens the sturdiness of our national character, while it prevents the indulgence among our people of that kindly sentiment and conduct which strengthens the bonds of a common brotherhood.

It is within my personal knowledge that individual aid has, to some extent, already been extended to the sufferers mentioned in this bill. The failure of the proposed appropriation of $10,000 additional, to meet their remaining wants, will not necessarily result in continued distress if the emergency is fully made known to the people of the country.

It is here suggested that the Commissioner of Agriculture is annually directed to expend a large sum of money for the purchase, propagation, and distribution of seeds and other things of this description, two-thirds of which are, upon the request of senators, representatives, and delegates in Congress, supplied to them for distribution among their constituents.



The appropriation of the current year for this purpose is $100,000, and it will probably be no less in the appropriation for the ensuing year. I understand that a large quantity of grain is furnished for such distribution, and it is supposed that this free apportionment among their neighbors is a privilege which may be waived by our senators and representatives.

If sufficient of them should request the Commissioner of Agriculture to send their shares of the grain thus allowed them, to the suffering farmers of Texas, they might be enabled to sow their crops; the constituents, for whom in theory this grain is intended, could well bear the temporary deprivation, and the donors would experience the satisfaction attending deeds of charity.
 
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Another example of FEMA's incompetence: aiding Katrina evacuees as squatters

This is a true article, I am not making this up:

This winter, FEMA put up over 300 Hurricane Katrina evacuees in New York City hotels. Almost all of them have gone back to their lives, their jobs. But not Theon Johnson. He’s currently sprawled out watching Halloween 5 on one of the two full-size beds in his room at the JFK Airport Holiday Inn. He is one of four evacuees still living in a hotel in the city.

After being flown here for free back in September, Johnson’s been at the Holiday Inn since Super Bowl Sunday. On April 21, the hotel served Johnson with three notices of occupancy termination, saying that it would begin court proceedings if he wasn’t out by May 9. He wasn’t, so it did. If the court boots him, Johnson could end up in one of the city’s homeless shelters. He’s been broke for over a month now. FEMA sent him $9,000 in housing aid, but he spent it all on booze, cigarettes, some clothes, and food—partying, mostly. “I spent my money just the way I wanted, and I think [fema] should send me some more,” he says. But it won’t. Johnson’s caseworker says FEMA offered to buy him a ticket home to New Orleans in February, but he didn’t take it. FEMA won’t now. So he’s stuck, at least until the Holiday Inn pays him to leave.

Gross incompetence by FEMA. Hey, I'll betcha Theon will love where FEMA plans to house him when the next crisis hits.

http://nymag.com/news/intelligencer/17161/
 
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FEMA has such a great track record at spending taxpayer dollars and is beyond criticism because of the valuable service they provide!

/sarcasm
 
Dr. Paul will be on the Sunday talk shows tomorrow, so I hope he prepared to take the offensive on this issue, and show how inefficient government is in handling this, and how many of our liberties we give up to such an agency. The money can be used much better at the state and local level coordinated with private businesses. Much more efficient. But he has to communicate that he is concerned for people during these times, and that there is a much more efficient way of getting them help more quickly.
 
We Need a "The Best of FEMA"


Katrina: Millions in taxpayer money melts away to water in FEMA 18 wheelers
Katrina: Debit Cards for residence turns into millions in fraud, abuse, and a lot of purchases at now bankrupt Circuit City, instead of essential goods.
Katrina: Millions wasted on Toxic formaldehide trailers
 
We Need a "The Best of FEMA"


Katrina: Millions in taxpayer money melts away to water in FEMA 18 wheelers
Katrina: Debit Cards for residence turns into millions in fraud, abuse, and a lot of purchases at now bankrupt Circuit City, instead of essential goods.
Katrina: Millions wasted on Toxic formaldehide trailers

Katrina: $226,000 toxic trailers that they bought for NO flood victims. Those same trailers can be bought for $4000 on the internet. \o/ for FEMA
 
The very idea of a centralized bureaucracy properly managing local events boggles the mind.

FEMA proves that we don't even need a Washington DC.
 
I think RP's reply was perfect, but it doesnt matter anyways that is MSNBC, they are a bunch of socialists over there. Anything short of Govt paid everything isnt going to matter. Those people are crazy, they dont understand that the printed money the FED prints actually has to be paid back, and it probably going to be by a Republican since they seem to comprise the majority of the working class. Certainly not anyone on welfare, they could care less.
 
"Only 25 percent of the respondents to a survey conducted in Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina identified government as their most important source of aid. Government relief to disaster victims is often less effective than aid provided by volunteers, non-profit organizations, and commercial enterprises, and it often facilitates corruption, encourages growth in disaster-prone areas, and crowds out self-help."

Disaster Relief as Bad Public Policy, by WILLIAM F. SHUGHART II - http://independent.org/pdf/tir/tir_15_04_2_shughart.pdf
 
IT'S CONFUSING TRUTH. I have said it in my other post when Dr. Paul talks, it sounds like sorry folks you are on your own -- Earthquake, Fire, Floods etc. It sounds like there is no support from state government. He needs to say before 1980, we took care of things with help from local/state governments.

I agree. Pete, I definitely agree that it's obvious Ron Paul speaks the simple truth, and his passionate supporters love him for that, but this is not a strategy bound to win over voters! He's been doing a lot better as of late; this was a soundbite that I'm sure he will be able to step out of. People have very short memories, it's true, but we're riding some momentum and this might be a little bump in the road. I'm not really sure.

Traditional Conservative said:
Yes, those MSNBC liberals may not vote for him in the GOP primary now.
Hey, anything that costs us potential votes is a slight negative in my opinion. I don't think all people who watch MSNBC necessarily share the same crackpot viewpoints. Hell, I'm sure the average red-blooded GOP voter appreciates the handouts coming his way too.
 
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MSNBC attacking Paul = good for a GOP primary

It really seems to not matter what the subject is. Ron tells the simple truth, and the MSM goes nuts.

I only hope this CAT 1 storm and the inevitable over response and waste will prove him right again.
 
FEMA causes more harm in many cases than the disasters they come in to 'help' with. Remember all those people in the stadium after New Orleans? They just sat around waiting for the government to come help them out. WalMart got there before FEMA did.

People need to open their eyes.


I still recall seeing Jeraldo Rivera doing a report pleading, asking why couldn't at least bottles of water be brought in.
 
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