more interesting tweets about the lawsuit

[tod evans]

Let it go how?

If there's a forum member in Cal. they could call the clerk of the court and find out when motions hearing are scheduled to be heard.

Personally I like the idea of holding GOP feet to the fire and this suit and the alleged RICO complaint (I haven't seen a court stamped copy) are the only two instances I'm aware of.

 

[TheGrinch]

In other tweets he mentioned RICO, lately he's been calling the Romney camp and RNC 'organized crime' so I think it is still RICO.

 

[Origanalist]

My being in the know only consists of me following this guy since he was putting in a ton of work investigating Romney in Michigan, before he started tweeting about this suit. I compared it to what happened procedurally in the news, and I looked up Gilbert in the bar database for ethical violations (none) and looked up his firm (not noting anything about elections on their areas of practice.) This is a bunch of attys who love Ron Paul being really pissed, if we take it at face value, and nothing I've seen so far from them contradicts that impression -- however, that doesn't mean I can vouch for them, I have lingering concerns of my own on the 'what if' front. All the same... I am REALLY pissed by what the GOP in various states have just been getting away with.

My point was that I was entirely sceptical about the whole thing, at least you have some prior knowledge of this (these?) people-persons. That's all.

 

[sailingaway]

Let it go how?

If there's a forum member in Cal. they could call the clerk of the court and find out when motions hearing are scheduled to be heard.

Personally I like the idea of holding GOP feet to the fire and this suit and the alleged RICO complaint (I haven't seen a court stamped copy) are the only two instances I'm aware of.

Well if the DOJ is involved RICO may be forthcoming.

Someone (RDM?) posted the filed motions in a thread here, it may be four or five pages down by now, but it is the OP of the thread, if you want to look for it. Christopher Shelley posted a white paper on what the law suit is about in one of his threads last night. He asked me if he could have a sticky thread on the law suit and I said yeah, but it is not a 'vouching for it' just an informational thread, although I am increasingly thinking the people behind this at least have their hearts in the right place. I suggested he not just fill it with junk, but only key information, or no one would read it.

 

[PatriotOne]

How does that saying go? Beware those bearing gifts?

 

[ClydeCoulter]

How does that saying go? Beware those bearing gifts?

That may be why some are either sceptical or "wait and see".

 

[RDM]

I would suggest the "KEYBOARD DETECTIVES" pick up a phone (if you know what one is) and contact the attorney Richard Gilbert and bombard him with your concerned questions.
SANTA ANA LOCATION
950 West 17th Street Suite D
Santa Ana, CA 92706-3573
Phone: (714) 667-1038
Toll-free: (800) 667-7765
Fax: (714) 667-2388
http://www.gilbertandmarlowe.com/staticform.htm

 

[tod evans]

Well if the DOJ is involved RICO may be forthcoming.

Someone (RDM?) posted the filed motions in a thread here, it may be four or five pages down by now, but it is the OP of the thread, if you want to look for it. Christopher Shelley posted a white paper on what the law suit is about in one of his threads last night. He asked me if he could have a sticky thread on the law suit and I said yeah, but it is not a 'vouching for it' just an informational thread, although I am increasingly thinking the people behind this at least have their hearts in the right place. I suggested he not just fill it with junk, but only key information, or no one would read it.

I've seen the filed civil complaint, both Barex and I posted links to it last week....

The DOJ would absolutely need to be involved to file a criminal complaint.....However, the RICO act only attaches to statutory crimes, so without a predicate offense there can be no RICO enhancement...

It's the formal complaint filed with the AUSA that i would like to see a copy of, and honestly it's probably way too soon for there to even be one available.

If the criminal case moves forward the AUSA would have to get a grand jury to indict before any arrests occurred....Realistically assembling evidence to seek an indictment generally takes months if not years...

 

[sailingaway]

How does that saying go? Beware those bearing gifts?

there is that, yet people understand when someone donates their time to create videos, canvas, create web pages, design logos etc.....

 

[sailingaway]

I would suggest the "KEYBOARD DETECTIVES" pick up a phone (if you know what one is) and contact the attorney Richard Gilbert and bombard him with your concerned questions.
SANTA ANA LOCATION
950 West 17th Street Suite D
Santa Ana, CA 92706-3573
Phone: (714) 667-1038
Toll-free: (800) 667-7765
Fax: (714) 667-2388
http://www.gilbertandmarlowe.com/staticform.htm

Why would you want a bunch of people pestering someone who is working pro bono? I strongly suggest the DELEGATES do that, and people who are willing to be process servers in the areas that need them do it, but NOT that a thousand people deluge the guy's voicemail system.

--edit--

perhaps we could come up with a few to the point questions that would actually give us information we could verify or would actually change our way of thinking about these guys. I did what I could think of would at least give me a measure of confidence and couldn't really think of something else that would get me all the way there, but maybe as a group we could come up with some good vetting questions.

 

[tod evans]

I'm not going to bother him or his staff.

I've seen a court stamped copy of the civil suit......That's good enough for me.

I'd suggest if folks "NEED" information that they phone or fax the clerk of the court instead of an attorney who's trying to compile a case on our behalf.

I would suggest the "KEYBOARD DETECTIVES" pick up a phone (if you know what one is) and contact the attorney Richard Gilbert and bombard him with your concerned questions.
SANTA ANA LOCATION
950 West 17th Street Suite D
Santa Ana, CA 92706-3573
Phone: (714) 667-1038
Toll-free: (800) 667-7765
Fax: (714) 667-2388
http://www.gilbertandmarlowe.com/staticform.htm

 

[specsaregood]

although I am increasingly thinking the people behind this at least have their hearts in the right place. I suggested he not just fill it with junk, but only key information, or no one would read it.

I sure hope so, and agree on the 2nd half of your statement. if they had just been doing that all along, I wouldn't be skeptical about it at all.

 

[sailingaway]

I sure hope so, and agree on the 2nd half of your statement. if they had just been doing that all along, I wouldn't be skeptical about it at all.

the people spreading information seem to be like our own internet warriors -- an ad hoc group with varying backgrounds. We see them through that link.

 

[sailingaway]

I've seen the filed civil complaint, both Barex and I posted links to it last week....

The DOJ would absolutely need to be involved to file a criminal complaint.....However, the RICO act only attaches to statutory crimes, so without a predicate offense there can be no RICO enhancement...

It's the formal complaint filed with the AUSA that i would like to see a copy of, and honestly it's probably way too soon for there to even be one available.

If the criminal case moves forward the AUSA would have to get a grand jury to indict before any arrests occurred....Realistically assembling evidence to seek an indictment generally takes months if not years...

Apparently the intimidation of delegates is a statutory crime, or they believe it is. They were talking about potential 5 year prison terms, at least as a talking point.

I agree that the RICO complaint would be on a different time line than the delegate suit.

By the way, I am in California, I just don't see knowing when motions would be heard as a piece missing from my personal puzzle. If there IS a missing piece I can find, I might be able to do that.

They think something big is happening in 50 days from a couple of days ago though. A more mysterious tweet than others.

 

[Dutch]

Having read the last few tweets I'm convinced that account is being used by a very very junior member of the team. It even contradicts the conference call regarding Doug Wead being a good guy or a bad guy. Concall says Good, twitter says Bad.

 

[FSP-Rebel]

They think something big is happening in 50 days from a couple of days ago though. A more mysterious tweet than others.

 

[sailingaway]

Having read the last few tweets I'm convinced that account is being used by a very very junior member of the team. It even contradicts the conference call regarding Doug Wead being a good guy or a bad guy. Concall says Good, twitter says Bad.

the twitter account got very emotional around the time of Rand's endorsement. It was almost like being here.

I think more than one person uses the account. I suspect some of the tweets will have been deleted.

 

[tod evans]

By the way, I am in California, I just don't see knowing when motions would be heard as a piece missing from my personal puzzle. If there IS a missing piece I can find, I might be able to do that.

It's not a missing piece per-se. But having an actual date when more relevant info would be forthcoming might help quell some of the uneasiness that keeps getting posted?

 

[Origanalist]

Oh, shit. That is funny.

 

[kathy88]

idk... I am having a hard time feeling the good vibe. Even if Romney is eliminated, that does not mean that Ron Paul slips in. I am sure the GOP has an army of candidates, who would love to be placed in nomination... now that all the hard campaigning is over.

It is still my hope that the delegates, when unbound, will do the right thing for America and choose Ron Paul. We have a chance, no one knows how much of a chance, but we still do have a chance.

if successful and Romney not an option which is unlikely, it IS likely the rules would need to upheld. The most important rule is the plurality of five states needed for nomination. That leaves Paul and Santorum.